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We were pretty poor today and lucky to get a point.

Results elsewhere (other than Bradford) went against us as well, typical!

We’ve lost 27 points from winning positions. Probably top of that league based on that.
 
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Good day for us with Exeter and Plymouth both dropping points. Get another 3 points next week and we'll be 3 points off 70 with 11 games to go. Excellent position to be in if we can get it.
 

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We were pretty poor today and lucky to get a point.

Results elsewhere (other than Bradford) went against us as well, typical!

We’ve lost 27 points from winning positions. Probably top of that league based on that.
Thought one or two would drop points but luckily most play each other next week and midweek so beat Scunny and we should be back in it and on course. Draw away and win at home and we won’t go far wrong... positive is when we’ve played that bad earlier in the season we have lost whereas today we ground it out and could of nicked it at the end.

Just those lost points... if we don’t go up this year it at least shows it’s small margins we just need to improve on to be right up there next.
 

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We have 41 points from 33 games, 13 to go. Those 39 points (by winning every game) would give us 80 points; 79 points was enough for automatic promotion last season.

Just saying for a friend!
 

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Always seems to at this time of year for some reason! Could be a mental thing.
We always lose at Northampton.
Taylor ripped into the team afterwards, not happy with the performance. I expect us to bounce back next week then it's the Crewe game which will be crucial
 

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Bad day at the office for us. Northampton deserved the win. I think something like 4 of our next 5 are at home, so expecting a significant points haul and normal practice (for this season anyway) is resumed. Our games with Argyle and Crewe are going to be massive.
 

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Didn't play well but got the win. Now a huge game against Northampton on Tuesday, another win and we'll be sniffing around the top three again.
 

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Time to leave this thread, with a little song. It's called we're fucking shit.

We're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit (we're fucking shit)

Good luck everyone should be an exciting run in. My money's on Swindon, Crewe and Plymouth for the autos, Vale to win the playoffs.
 

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Time to leave this thread, with a little song. It's called we're fucking shit.

We're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit, we're fucking shit (we're fucking shit)

Good luck everyone should be an exciting run in. My money's on Swindon, Crewe and Plymouth for the autos, Vale to win the playoffs.
What on Earth is going on at FGR Chris? Gone backwards recently. Time for the end of the Cooper revolution?
 

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What on Earth is going on at FGR Chris? Gone backwards recently. Time for the end of the Cooper revolution?
Losing key staff in the summer inc our assistant manager Scott Lindsey who was a big personality at the club was a bad start, then not replacing the likes of Christian Doidge or Reece Brown with anyone near as good and overall going with a very young squad and appointing a director of football who made a pigs ear of the January transfer window. We got away with it up till November but have fallen apart since then with confidence draining, fans turning on Cooper (and some on Vince too) all whilst Cooper being his usual non abrasive self (lol) and falling out with fans, players and local media isn't likely to help when you're crashing down the league either.

If there were two relegation places up for grabs we would be starting to get worried. Most teams we play are amazed at how awful we are, and 8 of our last 11 games are against teams in the top half. If we don't beat Orient we'll be coming to the County Ground in two weeks on a run of 2 wins in 20. Incoming hammering....
 
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Interestingly, our chairman has said we’re between 10th and mid table in the budget list. So we’re actually punching above our weight (interesting timing to reveal that considering we’ve lost 4 from 5)
 

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Interestingly, our chairman has said we’re between 10th and mid table in the budget list. So we’re actually punching above our weight (interesting timing to reveal that considering we’ve lost 4 from 5)
Allegedly we are 17th this year which is surprisingly low and lower then ever before (but partly down to the costs of the take over).

Bodes well for next season when it will surely be higher.
 
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It’s tinpot this year because of the extortion the Shanahans had to face in preseason in paying off type 2 diabetes Voldemort before he liquidated the club like the mentally ill manchild threatened to.

Should be back to normal and improving year on year from next season.

I want promotion not just for promotion but to also spite that CÛNT. They’ve already achieved 1000x more in 9 months than that prick did in 7 years.
 

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It’s tinpot this year because of the extortion the Shanahans had to face in preseason in paying off type 2 diabetes Voldemort before he liquidated the club like the mentally ill manchild threatened to.

Should be back to normal and improving year on year from next season.

I want promotion not just for promotion but to also spite that CÛNT. They’ve already achieved 1000x more in 9 months than that prick did in 7 years.
Hehe was an initial thought when we drew Man City considering he pretty much screwed the club up over losing to Exeter in the cup a few years back and missing out on Liverpool!

Nice Wembley play off trip and even more money just to show what he could of had... but didn’t.

No left over pies and cold showers now!
 

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Good day for us with Exeter and Plymouth both dropping points. Get another 3 points next week and we'll be 3 points off 70 with 11 games to go. Excellent position to be in if we can get it.
Any chance of the updates that you've done in previous years in these threads. I'd imagine they are time consuming, but great info :thumbs:
 

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Right, back by popular demand(well, one person asked for it), it's the real league two table. Quick guide for those unfamiliar with this. It just shows what line teams need to hit to likely hit promotion, based on various averages. The predicted line is simply done by working out each teams current points per game average and then using that to guess how many points they might finish on. So, Swindon have 66 points after 34 games. Thats a 1.76 PPG pace. Times that by 46 and it predicts they'll finish on 89 points. And so on for each of the other teams. It's not perfect, but it's the easiest way to predict things.

99 - Champions 2016, Guaranteed Champions 2019
98 -
97 - Guaranteed Automatics 2019
96 -
95 -
94 - Champions 2015
93 - Champions 2018
92 -
91 -
90 -
89 - Predicted Champions 2020
88 -
87 - Champions 2017
86 - Guaranteed Play Offs 2019
85 - Champions 2019, Automatic Promotion 2015, 2016 + 2017
84 - Champions 2014, Automatic Promotion 2018, Predicted Automatics 2020
83 - Champions 2013
82 -
81 - Automatic Promotion 2014
80 -
79 - Automatic Promotion 2019
78 - Automatic Promotion 2013
77 -
76 -
75 - Play Offs 2016 + 2018
74 -
73 -
72 -
71 - Play Offs 2014, 2015 + 2019, Predicted Play Offs 2020
70 - Play Offs 2017
69 - Play Offs 2013
68 -
67 -
66 - Swindon(34)
65 - Crewe(35)
64 - Exeter(35)
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63 - Cheltenham(35)
62 - Plymouth(35)
61 -
60 -
59 -
58 - Northampton(36)
57 -
56 - Port Vale(36)
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55 - Colchester(36)
54 - Bradford(36)

For this run down, I'll include the bottom 4 in red as relegation battlers, even if it's unlikely the 3 above Stevenage will go down. And I'm including all the top 9, but none after that, as I don't see anyone from Salford down making the top 7, although that could change.

Forthcoming fixtures:

1st Swindon(34) - 66 points. Scunthorpe(H), Forest Green(H), Oldham(A), Stevenage(A), Crawley(H), Salford(H), Walsall(A), Cheltenham(H), Morecambe(A), Leyton Orient(H), Macclesfield(A), Mansfield(A) TBA
2nd Crewe(35) - 65 points. Exeter(A), Stevenage(H), Mansfield(A), Colchester(A), Forest Green(H), Port Vale(A), Northampton(H), Newport(H), Bradford(A), Grimsby(H), Cambridge(A)
3rd Exeter(35) - 64 points. Crewe(H), Walsall(A), Salford(H), Scunthorpe(H), Plymouth(A), Bradford(H), Cheltenham(A), Morecambe(H), Mansfield(A), Carlisle(H), Leyton Orient(A)
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4th Cheltenham(35) - 63 points. Port Vale(H), Cambridge(A), Macclesfield(A), Grimsby(H), Newport(H), Forest Green(A), Exeter(H), Swindon(A), Crawley(H), Stevenage(A), Salford(H)
5th Plymouth(35) - 62 points. Grimsby(H), Macclesfield(H), Morecambe(A), Leyton Orient(A), Exeter(H), Grimsby(A), Forest Green(H), Walsall(A), Northampton(H), Oldham(A), Port Vale(H)
6th Northampton(36) - 58 points. Mansfield(H), Forest Green(A), Carlisle(H), Cambridge(A), Oldham(H), Crewe(A), Colchester(H), Plymouth(A), Bradford(H), Newport(A)
7th Port Vale(36) - 56 points. Cheltenham(A), Crawley(H), Bradford(H), Oldham(A), Crewe(H), Carlisle(A), Grimsby(H), Cambridge(A), Newport(H), Plymouth(A)
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8th Colchester(36) - 55 points. Carlisle(A), Scunthorpe(H), Crewe(H), Newport(A), Mansfield(H), Bradford(A), Northampton(A), Oldham(H), Walsall(A), Forest Green(H)
9th Bradford(36) - 54 points. Salford(A), Leyton Orient(H), Port Vale(A), Macclesfield(H), Exeter(A), Colchester(H), Forest Green(A), Crewe(H), Northampton(A), Walsall(H)

So, good weekend for Swindon, who only lose one point at the top but gain a game in hand. Their run in looks very favourable, even if their away form is a bit iffy of late.

Crewe miss a great chance to go top and put some distance between them and those below them by drawing at Morecambe. Got a horrible midweek trip to Exeter next up, oh joy. Lose that if Plymouth win, then it gets really bunched up in that top 5. Exeter also had a bad result, drawing at home to Crawley. Still, a win Tuesday puts that right behind them.

Cheltenham are on a 5 game winning run. Peaked too early, or just at the right time? Port Vale at home for them next, a win would set them up nicely to try and break into the top 3. Plymouth lose again, 3 without a win and potentially losing form at the worst time. Still, their next 4 are all very favourable, good chance to get back on track there.

Northampton had been losing ground after 4 defeats in 5, but they get a good result at Grimsby and have a nice next few weeks to really kick on a solidify a top 7 spot. Port Vale drop yet more home points, those home draws have been a real issue all season. Their run in is tough, especially over the next few weeks.

Colchester are losing steam fast, as they seem to do every season around this stage. Lost 4 of their last 6. Got a few mid-table teams coming up in the next few weeks, so a chance to get back into that top 7. Bradford won't go away thanks to their home form, but they can't buy a win on the road. And their final 5 away games aren't easy at all.

So, looking like a wide open battle between 5 teams for the automatic places. Then it's any 2 from 4 for the final top 7 spots. As it stands anyway.

Big midweek games coming up, with 4 of the top 5 all in action, including a big 6 pointer between Exeter and Crewe. All to play for with 10/11 games to go.
 

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Right, back by popular demand(well, one person asked for it), it's the real league two table. Quick guide for those unfamiliar with this. It just shows what line teams need to hit to likely hit promotion, based on various averages. The predicted line is simply done by working out each teams current points per game average and then using that to guess how many points they might finish on. So, Swindon have 66 points after 34 games. Thats a 1.76 PPG pace. Times that by 46 and it predicts they'll finish on 89 points. And so on for each of the other teams. It's not perfect, but it's the easiest way to predict things.

99 - Champions 2016, Guaranteed Champions 2019
98 -
97 - Guaranteed Automatics 2019
96 -
95 -
94 - Champions 2015
93 - Champions 2018
92 -
91 -
90 -
89 - Predicted Champions 2020
88 -
87 - Champions 2017
86 - Guaranteed Play Offs 2019
85 - Champions 2019, Automatic Promotion 2015, 2016 + 2017
84 - Champions 2014, Automatic Promotion 2018, Predicted Automatics 2020
83 - Champions 2013
82 -
81 - Automatic Promotion 2014
80 -
79 - Automatic Promotion 2019
78 - Automatic Promotion 2013
77 -
76 -
75 - Play Offs 2016 + 2018
74 -
73 -
72 -
71 - Play Offs 2014, 2015 + 2019, Predicted Play Offs 2020
70 - Play Offs 2017
69 - Play Offs 2013
68 -
67 -
66 - Swindon(34)
65 - Crewe(35)
64 - Exeter(35)
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63 - Cheltenham(35)
62 - Plymouth(35)
61 -
60 -
59 -
58 - Northampton(36)
57 -
56 - Port Vale(36)
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55 - Colchester(36)
54 - Bradford(36)

For this run down, I'll include the bottom 4 in red as relegation battlers, even if it's unlikely the 3 above Stevenage will go down. And I'm including all the top 9, but none after that, as I don't see anyone from Salford down making the top 7, although that could change.

Forthcoming fixtures:

1st Swindon(34) - 66 points. Scunthorpe(H), Forest Green(H), Oldham(A), Stevenage(A), Crawley(H), Salford(H), Walsall(A), Cheltenham(H), Morecambe(A), Leyton Orient(H), Macclesfield(A), Mansfield(A) TBA
2nd Crewe(35) - 65 points. Exeter(A), Stevenage(H), Mansfield(A), Colchester(A), Forest Green(H), Port Vale(A), Northampton(H), Newport(H), Bradford(A), Grimsby(H), Cambridge(A)
3rd Exeter(35) - 64 points. Crewe(H), Walsall(A), Salford(H), Scunthorpe(H), Plymouth(A), Bradford(H), Cheltenham(A), Morecambe(H), Mansfield(A), Carlisle(H), Leyton Orient(A)
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4th Cheltenham(35) - 63 points. Port Vale(H), Cambridge(A), Macclesfield(A), Grimsby(H), Newport(H), Forest Green(A), Exeter(H), Swindon(A), Crawley(H), Stevenage(A), Salford(H)
5th Plymouth(35) - 62 points. Grimsby(H), Macclesfield(H), Morecambe(A), Leyton Orient(A), Exeter(H), Grimsby(A), Forest Green(H), Walsall(A), Northampton(H), Oldham(A), Port Vale(H)
6th Northampton(36) - 58 points. Mansfield(H), Forest Green(A), Carlisle(H), Cambridge(A), Oldham(H), Crewe(A), Colchester(H), Plymouth(A), Bradford(H), Newport(A)
7th Port Vale(36) - 56 points. Cheltenham(A), Crawley(H), Bradford(H), Oldham(A), Crewe(H), Carlisle(A), Grimsby(H), Cambridge(A), Newport(H), Plymouth(A)
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8th Colchester(36) - 55 points. Carlisle(A), Scunthorpe(H), Crewe(H), Newport(A), Mansfield(H), Bradford(A), Northampton(A), Oldham(H), Walsall(A), Forest Green(H)
9th Bradford(36) - 54 points. Salford(A), Leyton Orient(H), Port Vale(A), Macclesfield(H), Exeter(A), Colchester(H), Forest Green(A), Crewe(H), Northampton(A), Walsall(H)

So, good weekend for Swindon, who only lose one point at the top but gain a game in hand. Their run in looks very favourable, even if their away form is a bit iffy of late.

Crewe miss a great chance to go top and put some distance between them and those below them by drawing at Morecambe. Got a horrible midweek trip to Exeter next up, oh joy. Lose that if Plymouth win, then it gets really bunched up in that top 5. Exeter also had a bad result, drawing at home to Crawley. Still, a win Tuesday puts that right behind them.

Cheltenham are on a 5 game winning run. Peaked too early, or just at the right time? Port Vale at home for them next, a win would set them up nicely to try and break into the top 3. Plymouth lose again, 3 without a win and potentially losing form at the worst time. Still, their next 4 are all very favourable, good chance to get back on track there.

Northampton had been losing ground after 4 defeats in 5, but they get a good result at Grimsby and have a nice next few weeks to really kick on a solidify a top 7 spot. Port Vale drop yet more home points, those home draws have been a real issue all season. Their run in is tough, especially over the next few weeks.

Colchester are losing steam fast, as they seem to do every season around this stage. Lost 4 of their last 6. Got a few mid-table teams coming up in the next few weeks, so a chance to get back into that top 7. Bradford won't go away thanks to their home form, but they can't buy a win on the road. And their final 5 away games aren't easy at all.

So, looking like a wide open battle between 5 teams for the automatic places. Then it's any 2 from 4 for the final top 7 spots. As it stands anyway.

Big midweek games coming up, with 4 of the top 5 all in action, including a big 6 pointer between Exeter and Crewe. All to play for with 10/11 games to go.
Excellent work


I also enjoy seeing ‘99 - Champions 2016’ ahhhh happier times under Sir Christopher Wilder
 

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For us its probably for the best three of our next five games are against promotion contenders as we seem much more comfortable playing them teams than any of the bottom half.

Still thinking around 74 points will be needed to make the playoffs.
 

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Our run in isn’t tough enough! Anyone in the top 9-10 we can beat 9 times out of 10... the bottom half sides though it’s a different story!

Northampton’s last few games look horrific!

We’d in general seemed to have cured our game management issue but it’s reared up again and we still are not seeing off lower end sides despite getting into positions to do so. 29 points lost from winning positions is pretty stunning... but we are back in the top 7 and unbeaten in 7 and only losing 2 in 16 so hopefully we can keep it going.

Cheltenham next week is massive... win that and it would be a huge boost, tough tie and both sides in great form but we’ve won there once already in the cup to set up that magical evening at the Etihad. Pope must start and he must be fed again.
 

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Our run in isn’t tough enough! Anyone in the top 9-10 we can beat 9 times out of 10... the bottom half sides though it’s a different story!

Northampton’s last few games look horrific!

We’d in general seemed to have cured our game management issue but it’s reared up again and we still are not seeing off lower end sides despite getting into positions to do so. 29 points lost from winning positions is pretty stunning... but we are back in the top 7 and unbeaten in 7 and only losing 2 in 16 so hopefully we can keep it going.

Cheltenham next week is massive... win that and it would be a huge boost, tough tie and both sides in great form but we’ve won there once already in the cup to set up that magical evening at the Etihad. Pope must start and he must be fed again.
With our last few though, they’re the sort that if you can win a few of them it’s a huge swing in our favour. Positivity.
 

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Our Home form is joint-second best in the league, but it’s our away form which has held us back throughout the season.

We have five home games left - all winnable! If we have any play-off aspirations, we need to turn this away form on its head, starting with Salford away next week. We then have Vale away, in what will be very important game. Other away games feature the likes of Exeter, FGR and Northampton.

We play Walsall at home on the last day, which could be season defining. They have a shocking record at VP - so that’ll be a home banker in itself.
 

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Feel a fraud posting in the promotion thread but given us and Plymouth are both here... Good win yesterday, the pitch looked atrocious but actually the ball rolled fine bar the odd patch, apparently we trained on it given our normal training pitch has been underwater. Plymouth left so much room in behind and we really should’ve had at least 4 if not 5 but for Novak hitting a one on one straight at the keeper and Donaldson putting a pull back wide from 6 yards and another good save from the keeper with Connolly through on goal.
 

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Great evening for us. Fairly routine 2-0 win at home to Scunny and another 2 goals from Doyle who had been going through a bit of a barren spell. With Crewe and Exeter drawing we have a bit of a gap and a game in hand away at Mansfield to come.

FGR at home on Saturday should on paper yield another 3 points. We would have to be going some to not get 1 of the auto promotion spots from here!! Loads of games for us in March mind you so the squad might be tested.
 

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I'm absolutely livid with Lee Swabey. As one-sided a ref as I've ever seen. Gave us absolutely nothing all game while awarding Crewe free kicks as soon as we went near the ball. I'm frankly shocked that a referee who is from Plymouth and openly admits to "keeping an eye out" for plymouth results is allowed to referee our games, especially crunch games like this one.

The FA want their head examining.

Edit: he was also the guy who sent Atangana off against FGR for a pretty weak challenge.
 

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I'm absolutely livid with Lee Swabey. As one-sided a ref as I've ever seen. Gave us absolutely nothing all game while awarding Crewe free kicks as soon as we went near the ball. I'm frankly shocked that a referee who is from Plymouth and openly admits to "keeping an eye out" for plymouth results is allowed to referee our games, especially crunch games like this one.

The FA want their head examining.

Edit: he was also the guy who sent Atangana off against FGR for a pretty weak challenge.
Good lad Lee
 

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