2019/20 National League North

Bluandwite · Nov 3, 2019

We just can’t find a winner at the moment.

Not a bad point on the face of it, don’t think Brackley have been beaten at home for like a year after all. They probably had the better chances but we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half.

Need Asante back ASAP, he’s winning games like this for us.

DarkSithLord · Nov 3, 2019

Bluandwite said:
We just can’t find a winner at the moment.

Not a bad point on the face of it, don’t think Brackley have been beaten at home for like a year after all. They probably had the better chances but we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half.

Need Asante back ASAP, he’s winning games like this for us.

On our current form and level of performance Id be shocked if you dont beat us.

Railway Blue · Nov 3, 2019

Darlo On Tour said:
Saturday 2 November 2019 National League North Results

Att. 1,084 - AFC Telford United 1 Boston United 3
Att. 412 - Alfreton Town 0 Spennymoor Town 2
Att. 770 - Blyth Spartans 2 Farsley Celtic 0
Att. 476 - Brackley Town 1 Chester 1
Att. 1,388 - Darlington 0 Hereford 0
Att. 1,004 - Gateshead 2 Guiseley 3
Att. n/a - Gloucester City 2 Curzon Ashton 2
Att. 625 - Kettering Town 4 Bradford Park Avenue 0
Att. 888 - King's Lynn Town 2 Altrincham 2
Att. 947 - Southport 4 Leamington 1
Att. 2,586 - York City 1 Kidderminster Harriers 1

I would have expected that York's crowds to have been 3-4,000 by now as they have little opposition to being champions?

Lucky Bobble · Nov 3, 2019

Bluandwite said:
We just can’t find a winner at the moment.

Not a bad point on the face of it, don’t think Brackley have been beaten at home for like a year after all. They probably had the better chances but we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half.

Need Asante back ASAP, he’s winning games like this for us.

'...we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half'. Think I must of been at a different game! There wasn't a lot in it I'll grant, but we has 4 or 5 good chances and goalmouth scrambles and Chester keeper got very lucky with a deflection that just hit him, but no surprise, Brackley couldn't covert. Chester had maybe two chances all game. Chester seemed to play a lot of hoofball to their tall number 9 - but then again the conditions were not good. No idea why the game needed to be segregated, and amazed at the crowd of under 500 when I thought it looked like our best attendance of the year.

GuiseleySteve · Nov 3, 2019

Aarrons disallowed overhead kick. Perhaps the Gateshead player was just holding his head in shame?

Bluandwite · Nov 3, 2019

Lucky Bobble said:
'...we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half'. Think I must of been at a different game! There wasn't a lot in it I'll grant, but we has 4 or 5 good chances and goalmouth scrambles and Chester keeper got very lucky with a deflection that just hit him, but no surprise, Brackley couldn't covert. Chester had maybe two chances all game. Chester seemed to play a lot of hoofball to their tall number 9 - but then again the conditions were not good. No idea why the game needed to be segregated, and amazed at the crowd of under 500 when I thought it looked like our best attendance of the year.

As I said, you had the better chances.

Alty Pieman · Nov 3, 2019

Apart from York, there seem to be at least 10 teams who are close and could get into the playoffs this year. This includes Alty, by the time we play our next league game we will have played 3, 4 or 5 games less than most. With injuries, suspensions, FA cup, waterlogged pitches we have never really got going in the league, but we have a load of games coming up. Just hope we dont need a replay to beat York next week in the cup, then we can concentrate on the league again :gmc:

Minstermen central · Nov 3, 2019

Alty Pieman said:
Apart from York, there seem to be at least 10 teams who are close and could get into the playoffs this year. This includes Alty, by the time we play our next league game we will have played 3, 4 or 5 games less than most. With injuries, suspensions, FA cup, waterlogged pitches we have never really got going in the league, but we have a load of games coming up. Just hope we dont need a replay to beat York next week in the cup, then we can concentrate on the league again

Would be happy for you to win in cup,need to concentrate on getting out of league.

joethegill · Nov 4, 2019

Enjoyed a trip to York-Kidderminster at the weekend. York really weren't in the game in the first half but led at the break thanks to a good finish from the edge of the box, while second half was a bit of a reverse, with the home side enjoying far better possession and territory but let their lead slip late. All in all a decent game to watch in pretty awful conditions, with several players having trouble with the slippery pitch underfoot. As has already been said a bit further up this thread, I'm surprised Kidderminster are as low in the table as they are, as they more than matched the league leaders on their own patch.

Railway Blue · Nov 4, 2019

Lucky Bobble said:
'...we were more in the ascendancy pushing for the winner particularly in the second half'. Think I must of been at a different game! There wasn't a lot in it I'll grant, but we has 4 or 5 good chances and goalmouth scrambles and Chester keeper got very lucky with a deflection that just hit him, but no surprise, Brackley couldn't covert. Chester had maybe two chances all game. Chester seemed to play a lot of hoofball to their tall number 9 - but then again the conditions were not good. No idea why the game needed to be segregated, and amazed at the crowd of under 500 when I thought it looked like our best attendance of the year.

I wasn't at the game, but a guy on Deva Chat who writes accurate assessments reckons it was a game of two halves. You first, us second. I'll take his over yours thanks.

The Lost Riots · Nov 4, 2019

Perfect start for Paul Cox, fully committed performance and a first clean sheet of the season. The players actually looked like they wanted it for the first time in a few weeks.
It has to said though that Bradford PA were pretty rubbish to be fair, Guiseley away next week will be a totally different challenge though.

Railway Blue · Nov 4, 2019

The Lost Riots said:
Perfect start for Paul Cox, fully committed performance and a first clean sheet of the season. The players actually looked like they wanted it for the first time in a few weeks.
It has to said though that Bradford PA were pretty rubbish to be fair, Guiseley away next week will be a totally different challenge though.

Have you any plans to move to a decent stadium?

hardbutfair · Nov 4, 2019

Railway Blue said:
I wasn't at the game, but a guy on Deva Chat who writes accurate assessments reckons it was a game of two halves. You first, us second. I'll take his over yours thanks.

The joy of fan objectivity! Brackley on top first half, probably close to 50-50 in the second, although Chester keeper had more work to do than Danny Lewis. Apparently the segregation was the result of ONE Chester lad misbehaving last year. Seems a bit OTT, meant I had to watch the whole game in the rain rather than just the second half! Agree the crowd looked more than quoted, but who cares. Big game for Brackley tomorrow night - need to start converting chances or it will be another season battling in the play offs. York look close to out-of-site, but they haven`t yet had their mid season blip yet.

Lucky Bobble · Nov 4, 2019

Railway Blue said:
I wasn't at the game, but a guy on Deva Chat who writes accurate assessments reckons it was a game of two halves. You first, us second. I'll take his over yours thanks.

Well clearly as he is a Chester fan his opinion must be better than mine... Not convinced my previous posts would suggest a provenance of partisanship? I'll leave to the reader to make up their own mind - Chester's own match report reads:

'After being forced into a change at the break, with the injured Danny Livesey being replaced by Jamie Morgan, the reshuffled Blues were under the cosh in the opening minutes. They got some respite on 53 though, as Jackson looked to repeat his first half heroics, but this time his curler was off target.

The game was opening up into a real end-to-end affair, with the counter attacking Chester denied by Danny Lewis – who pouched a low effort from Waring after a lay off from Anthony Dudley. Straight up the other end, Armson’s superb ball in from the right just evaded Ndlovu at the back post.

Kevin Wilkin’s side then took charge and had a great spell as the second half ticked on, as Chester had to be alert to deny the forward players with Griffiths making a good save, and the excellent Kevin Roberts as well as sub Jamie Morgan both made respective vital blocks inside the area.

The Blues held firm for a third successive league draw on the road.'

I rest my case.

Lucky Bobble · Nov 4, 2019

hardbutfair said:
The joy of fan objectivity! Brackley on top first half, probably close to 50-50 in the second, although Chester keeper had more work to do than Danny Lewis. Apparently the segregation was the result of ONE Chester lad misbehaving last year. Seems a bit OTT, meant I had to watch the whole game in the rain rather than just the second half! Agree the crowd looked more than quoted, but who cares. Big game for Brackley tomorrow night - need to start converting chances or it will be another season battling in the play offs. York look close to out-of-site, but they haven`t yet had their mid season blip yet.

York out of sight for me. How many times is Kev going to say 'we need to start taking our chances' in post match interviews? Key for me is that Jimmy Armson blows hot and cold, and Lee Ndlovu for all his strengths, isn't a finisher. Given our goals tally relies on these, I'm just not convinced this year. Would really like to see us try returning to 3 at the back and two upfront - we have no idea how good Holman or Daire could be as we never see them. Also thought Baker could be the difference maker after his performances last season, but has just flopped this year.

Harrier94 · Nov 4, 2019

joethegill said:
Enjoyed a trip to York-Kidderminster at the weekend. York really weren't in the game in the first half but led at the break thanks to a good finish from the edge of the box, while second half was a bit of a reverse, with the home side enjoying far better possession and territory but let their lead slip late. All in all a decent game to watch in pretty awful conditions, with several players having trouble with the slippery pitch underfoot. As has already been said a bit further up this thread, I'm surprised Kidderminster are as low in the table as they are, as they more than matched the league leaders on their own patch.

Our issue is that for the first few months of the season we were under a takeover. That's been completed and with the addition of Hemmings, it seems like a weight has been lifted. From the Farsley, Darlo and York games, I'd have taken 4 points as all those teams are flying at the moment.

Kings Lynn tomorrow, will be another tough game but a return for Gash who i'm sure will get a good reception.

joethegill · Nov 4, 2019

Harrier94 said:
Our issue is that for the first few months of the season we were under a takeover. That's been completed and with the addition of Hemmings, it seems like a weight has been lifted. From the Farsley, Darlo and York games, I'd have taken 4 points as all those teams are flying at the moment.

Kings Lynn tomorrow, will be another tough game but a return for Gash who i'm sure will get a good reception.

Ah ok fair enough - still plenty of time to climb the table if you carry on playing like that, I was suitably impressed. I watch a fair bit of this 'level' (although I appreciate Conference South is often seen as a lesser quality than the North) as I live in Maidstone, and both sides on Saturday were better than anything I've seen down here this season.

hardbutfair · Nov 4, 2019

Lucky Bobble said:
York out of sight for me. How many times is Kev going to say 'we need to start taking our chances' in post match interviews? Key for me is that Jimmy Armson blows hot and cold, and Lee Ndlovu for all his strengths, isn't a finisher. Given our goals tally relies on these, I'm just not convinced this year. Would really like to see us try returning to 3 at the back and two upfront - we have no idea how good Holman or Daire could be as we never see them. Also thought Baker could be the difference maker after his performances last season, but has just flopped this year.

hardbutfair · Nov 4, 2019

Agree on Armson - when he is hot, he is very hot, when he isn`t, he`s frustrating to watch. Lee and Mattie Lowe would probably be playing higher up if either could add composed finishing to their other skills. Agree re Wilkin, for all his nous he isn`t as flexible as some of us might wish. Daire and Holman are hardly seen - a few minutes at best from the bench. Haven`t seen that much of Baker this season either, so can`t comment on any flopping, but he is a year older. Would add a positive word re Thierry Audel - terrific player at this level, that`s three CBs in a row Kev has found, following Gudger and Hall. Now, if he could only do the same further forward, and, give them a run...

Bluandwite · Nov 4, 2019

Lucky Bobble said:
Well clearly as he is a Chester fan his opinion must be better than mine... Not convinced my previous posts would suggest a provenance of partisanship? I'll leave to the reader to make up their own mind - Chester's own match report reads:

'After being forced into a change at the break, with the injured Danny Livesey being replaced by Jamie Morgan, the reshuffled Blues were under the cosh in the opening minutes. They got some respite on 53 though, as Jackson looked to repeat his first half heroics, but this time his curler was off target.

The game was opening up into a real end-to-end affair, with the counter attacking Chester denied by Danny Lewis – who pouched a low effort from Waring after a lay off from Anthony Dudley. Straight up the other end, Armson’s superb ball in from the right just evaded Ndlovu at the back post.

Kevin Wilkin’s side then took charge and had a great spell as the second half ticked on, as Chester had to be alert to deny the forward players with Griffiths making a good save, and the excellent Kevin Roberts as well as sub Jamie Morgan both made respective vital blocks inside the area.

The Blues held firm for a third successive league draw on the road.'

I rest my case.

Your own manager has conceded we had more possession in the second half. I've said (twice) that despite that you had the better chances.

Not sure why you're so defensive about it.

Lucky Bobble · Nov 4, 2019

Bluandwite said:
Your own manager has conceded we had more posession in the second half. I've said (twice) that despite that you had the better chances.

Not sure why you're so defensive about it.

TBF my reply was to Railway Blue's comment that 'I'll take his (Chester fan's) opinion over yours' which is of course his prerogative, but seems a little shallow to believe that one human being's viewpoint has greater validity simply because of the football team they support is the same as your own.

What our manager said was 'for all their possession they didn't hurt us' - which isn't saying you had more possession in the 2nd half - but I think we're both a bit tired of this discussion now - so let's just move on! May well see you in the playoffs - although I think it is going to be a very close league this year except for the top team - can see Spennymore and Kidderminster improving, and still baffled as to why Telford looked so good against us, and then doing so poorly overall.

Railway Blue · Nov 5, 2019

Lucky Bobble said:
TBF my reply was to Railway Blue's comment that 'I'll take his (Chester fan's) opinion over yours' which is of course his prerogative, but seems a little shallow to believe that one human being's viewpoint has greater validity simply because of the football team they support is the same as your own.

What our manager said was 'for all their possession they didn't hurt us' - which isn't saying you had more possession in the 2nd half - but I think we're both a bit tired of this discussion now - so let's just move on! May well see you in the playoffs - although I think it is going to be a very close league this year except for the top team - can see Spennymore and Kidderminster improving, and still baffled as to why Telford looked so good against us, and then doing so poorly overall.

Gawd I wish I'd never bothered replying. The person who's report I believe has been putting his opinions on Deva Chat for years. I go to most of the games he offers his opinion on and find his reports accurate, informative and critical of us when that is the case. Good luck for the rest of the season except for 22nd Feb,

Alty Pieman · Nov 5, 2019

People usually see what they want to see, I have been guilty of it myself too !
After a while, you get to know which reporters "are one eyed" or have selective memory.
On the whole people on here seem pretty even handed and realistic, some are even hyper-critical of their own sides, refreshing sometimes but usually just having a good moan :dk:

Darlo On Tour · Nov 6, 2019

Tuesday 5 November 2019 National League North Results

Att. 330 - Brackley Town 0 Spennymoor Town 0
Att. 707 - Gateshead 3 Curzon Ashton 0
Att. 1,082 - Kidderminster Harriers 2 King's Lynn Town 4

Harrier94 · Nov 6, 2019

Last night was bad. The first half was two very good attacking teams against 2 weak defences. It felt like both teams would score every time they would go forward. 2-2 at half time with 2 great goals from us.

Second half we come out in the first 5 or so minutes flying have a long-range strike go just wide, they go up the other end and score and that was us done, barely touched the ball after that. Frustrating as Kings Lynn were there for the taking.

Minstermen central · Nov 6, 2019

Harrier94 said:
Last night was bad. The first half was two very good attacking teams against 2 weak defences. It felt like both teams would score every time they would go forward. 2-2 at half time with 2 great goals from us.

Second half we come out in the first 5 or so minutes flying have a long-range strike go just wide, they go up the other end and score and that was us done, barely touched the ball after that. Frustrating as Kings Lynn were there for the taking.

Thought after Saturday performance you would turn them over.
Easy game for kings Lynn (game in hand) and lead only 4 points even though excellent start,everybody saying on here York are to far apart,I don’t believe it but think Kings Lynn are main rivals.

The Lost Riots · Nov 6, 2019

Railway Blue said:
Have you any plans to move to a decent stadium?

The council have identified some land for us back in Kettering itself. As far as i am aware the purchasing paperwork/planning is still ongoing at the moment. Can't really see us playing there for about 3-4 years, but things may progress quicker than that.
Extra turnstiles and seating will have to be installed at Latimer Park by March.....otherwise we will be demoted back to the Southern League.

Railway Blue · Nov 7, 2019

The Lost Riots said:
The council have identified some land for us back in Kettering itself. As far as i am aware the purchasing paperwork/planning is still ongoing at the moment. Can't really see us playing there for about 3-4 years, but things may progress quicker than that.
Extra turnstiles and seating will have to be installed at Latimer Park by March.....otherwise we will be demoted back to the Southern League.

Thanks for replying and good luck,

Railway Blue · Nov 7, 2019

Minstermen central said:
Thought after Saturday performance you would turn them over.
Easy game for kings Lynn (game in hand) and lead only 4 points even though excellent start,everybody saying on here York are to far apart,I don’t believe it but think Kings Lynn are main rivals.

Yes you can discount us. Our pre-Christmas meltdown has started early this year.

Harrier94 · Nov 7, 2019

Our game against Guiseley is off next week due to international call ups. We love a postponed game.

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