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Yeah this one confused me. We pressured Vale the entire half, felt like it might be one of those days, freezing our balls off and hoping to get the point we can see we deserve, and then we get a 93rd minute equaliser against local rivals, who happen to be top of the league, away at their ground...

Probably knackered - the work rate of Vale to keep us out was extraordinary, and after 92 minutes that's going to take it's toll.

OK, I'll try once more. That's the highlights. Put the speed to slow it down and you can see the impact on Holicek's shirt as it hits him. It's not pedantry to slow it down, it's just the camera moving at full speed makes it hard to see.

First half was even. We came into it and started to get control of it (have a look at OVF, the live posts during the game by Vale fans will also corroborate this) but Vale had the best of the rest. Second half was just attack vs defense and if we were more clinical we'd have had 4.

It hits his back, you can see it in all the replays. You don't need to patronise people, it's not about playing the game. Yes it's a potentially curling shot that's hit very well, it's still deflected by Holicek. I can't believe this is something that's even being debated, you're literally the...

I agree with you. A bad ref is a bad ref. He screwed us last season in a much worse way, so I can empathise totally. I still don't think he actively changed the game, but he was still shit.

That ref just isn't good at all. But, none of the questionable decisions he made last night actually affected the game. The sending off is something I've seen over and over now, and they're both yellow cards and a correct decision. Harper should know better. I mean, he's terrible anyway, but...

I mean 'for me' is odd - it takes a deflection. It's not a subjective thing.

I agree with that. Great crowd number for a weird time and televised game. Fair play to everyone that went. It's a 1-1 draw and I'm not sure either set of fans will be unhappy with it.

You'll get used to it, this is what some Vale fans do when they don't beat us.

No, a point is brilliant for us, let's not play that game. We've got a game in hand, Walsall have two in hand - tonight was a game Vale would have loved to have won to consolidate the gap.

Not sure what to think of that. Obviously happy to snatch a late equaliser, but also disappointed because of how one-sided the match was. Conceding so early really threw out what we were trying to do, and considering that was Vale's only shot on target in the entire 90 minutes that's hard to...

I'd bite your hand off for a draw right now. I'm not sure we realistically compete with Port Vale on any level this season, as much as that pains me to say. They're a League One squad stuck in League Two, and what worries me is that after our recent battles at some point our defense is going to...

Did Notts have their 4 superstars back that meant they lost to us last week or were they playing without them?

They don't need the money with their financial situation, might as well get the advantage in another way too.

We didn't deserve to go up. If we hadn't got 15+ injuries to the point where we couldn't even fill our bench and were having to play 5 of our starting lineup on pain injections for every game, we probably would have done.

Now you're just being facetious. Hemmings was our starting striker every game this season until his injury. His 'replacement', Thibaut, was starting games and having a big impact until his injury. Chris Long is an odd one since he's always bloody injured, but if he wasn't so likely to get...

It's the depth as much as the individuals. Squad depth wins leagues. I still maintain we'd have got automatic promotion last season if we weren't playing with 6 fit players and no bench.

We're not really. We're managing games better than we used to but most of the complaints were coming from salty Walsall fans who were just annoyed that they didn't beat us. It's no secret that Vale have the highest budget in the league, from the manager downwards, and a massive squad. We're...