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This is an amazing turnaroud from the first 20mins or so. Belgium looked in cruise control. Fantastic finish form Robson-Kanu of all players! Also I can't believe there are people that say Ramsey wouldn't get into Englands team. He would walk into our shithouse midfield.

All this passion talk is missing the point. Would we have broken Iceland down if Tim Sherwood was on the side line throwing his gillet on the floor? Maybe if Rooney had ripped his shirt hulk style and charged around like a headless chicken screaming "FOR ENGLAND! FOR ST GEORGE!!!"? We lost...

Is it still too early to say England are shit? I don't want to be accused of negativity... but I think the group stages where we struggled might have been a sign that we're shit and Roy is fraud that should have been sacked for finishing bottom of the World Cup group stages.

Even if you removed keeper fuck-ups from the scoreline. We'd still be 1-0 down.

Woy needs to either invent a time machine and pick some wingers in his squad or he needs to revert back to the diamond formation. Maybe we'll squeak through by playing ALL THE STRIKERS and aimlessly bundle out way through in extra time or something?

Germany looking really good, carried on the improvement they showed against N.Ireland. Although they should have given Lewandowski a German passport, they'd be unstoppable.

Wilshere to miss the decisive penalty against Iceland then. At least Vardy will score his now.

Skrtel's name should just be changed to liability. I have never seen Ozil score a penalty.

How many teams would leave a centre back at the edge of the penalty area from a corner? Paid off for Germany though.

He had no freedom on the right though, moved to the centre and Giroud created space for him. I've seen that sort of thing time and time again with Arsenal. We too often set up just like that French side in the first side, all narrow and no movement.

Gignac is Giroud, but shitter really. Not really going to change the game for the French.

Again. My god you people are obessed.

Game over. Moving Griezmann into the middle to support Giroud has transformed this French side. I is genius.

Griezmann scores. I reckon they need to start him in that number 10 role. Provided they do actually win this

I think France might have to actually drop one of Pogba or Matuidi for someone like Coman and move Griezmann in behind Giroud. Get Griezmann making some run in behind Giroud as well.

That's awful. Lallana and Rooney as box-to-box midfielders? Rooney's upturn in performance has been because he's sat deep and spread passes around. In a diamond formation that's Dier's position and I'm not sure we're quite ready to play Rooney as DM. I'd be very pleasantly surprised if...

We got rid of it though and went with the diamond and then Hodgeson clearly picked his squad on that formation. As for people saying England having medicore wingers? We do, but are they really going to be any worse than Rashford who will barely play or Milner or Barkely who will hardly get any...

No I must have remembered that wrong then. Maybe because as mistermagic they actually played better with the natural striker and my mind filled in the blanks because of that.

He won't get praise for the football while the team is struggling to win games though, which maybe isn't entirely fair, but the nice football really only highlights the other problems. I also don't give him much leeway on not knowing his best team, because the squad selection for the formation...

While Germany have looked a much better side with Gomez upfront, there is based on this game a definate drop in quality with him compared to the Germany midfield.