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Nigel Farage has resigned again - although I remember he did last year and soon came back!
 

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Does anyone take this odious prick seriously? For people with sense, instead of ignoring what he has to say, there will simply be nothing to ignore. But the end result is pretty much the same.
 
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A vote for leave doesn't equate to people taking much notice of what this dickwomble had to say. For example, neither of my parents can abide the fucker, but still voted leave for the typical bullshit reasons that people of a certain age appear to buy into.

And to be fair, I did put a condition on the claim about people with sense. There are some that are hard of thinking who will always be attracted to the shit people like Farage spout.
 

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I've never understood the whole 'Farage speaks his mind, he's honest'. I can't remember another politician in recent memory who goes back on his word as much as Farage does. Blind admiration (or should that be deaf admiration).
 

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A vote for leave doesn't equate to people taking much notice of what this dickwomble had to say. For example, neither of my parents can abide the fucker, but still voted leave for the typical bullshit reasons that people of a certain age appear to buy into.

And to be fair, I did put a condition on the claim about people with sense. There are some that are hard of thinking who will always be attracted to the shit people like Farage spout.

It's amazing though. Every brexiter I communicate with on here, on Twitter, on Facebook says the same thing. None of them agrees with Farage, none of them voted on immigration, none of them fell for the lies about '£350m', none of them believed that Turkey was going to join tomorrow and every single person there was going to move in tomorrow....

No one believed the lies or took the racists seriously.
 

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It's amazing though. Every brexiter I communicate with on here, on Twitter, on Facebook says the same thing. None of them agrees with Farage, none of them voted on immigration, none of them fell for the lies about '£350m', none of them believed that Turkey was going to join tomorrow and every single person there was going to move in tomorrow....

No one believed the lies or took the racists seriously.

I've questioned a few on this. They say they voted for other reasons than the 'mainstream' ones. They do find it very difficult to tell me what those might be though, which leads me to think they were duped along with all the others.
 

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I find a common answer seems to be 'but there were lies on both sides' which then segues into some bullshit about WWIII and the economy collapsing around our ears. (Apparently a prediction which hasn't happened yet is a 'lie' now...)
 

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Give it up Silk, we've got our country back and Farage is the hero that made it happen. He'll be knighted and put on banknotes one day.
 

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Does anyone take this odious prick seriously?

Why wouldn't you? He set out to get the UK out of the EU in the 90's and from a position of weakness he's managed to do that, shaking the political establishment to it's core in the process. It's an incredible achievement.
 

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You're giving him more credit for it happening than I do.
 
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A vote for leave doesn't equate to people taking much notice of what this dickwomble had to say. For example, neither of my parents can abide the fucker, but still voted leave for the typical bullshit reasons that people of a certain age appear to buy into.

And to be fair, I did put a condition on the claim about people with sense. There are some that are hard of thinking who will always be attracted to the shit people like Farage spout.

You're giving him more credit for it happening than I do.
Guy scored the biggest political win of your lifetime son, show some respect.
 

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Idiocy and buying into the overall bullshit of the Leave campaign, of which Farage was just one part.
 

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Why wouldn't you? He set out to get the UK out of the EU in the 90's and from a position of weakness he's managed to do that, shaking the political establishment to it's core in the process. It's an incredible achievement.
Because he thinks standing in front of a poster with Syrian refugees on with the headline breaking point is acceptable?
 
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People often forget that Farage was vehemently opposed to the EU well before high levels of European immigration were an issue.

I certainly think EU migration is what's tipped public opinion, but Farage's tireless campaigning has been a factor.
 

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And did it using images of non Europeans a long, long way away from the UK, who we had absolute control over their legal entry to the UK.

Because 'Ew. Brown People' was apparently an appropriate message in the EU Referendum.

Show him some fucking respect? Fuck off. He's a racist scumbag who has driven the referendum agenda via xenophobia and lies and the frothing defence of him from some quarters is nausea inducing.
 
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It is quite clear that here, as with Trump, EG is dispositionally inclined to interpret the rise of a demagogue as a testament to their power, masculinity, rock-hard girthful phallus etc, and as a confirmation of the abiding value of such qualities in the political realm. As opposed to interpreting their rise as a grim demonstration of a stopped clock appearing to be being correct a tiny fraction of the time, when the societal climate and the failures of others create the conditions for a sympathetic hearing of their foments (the legitimising assistance of useful idiots like Alty is not insignificant either, obviously).

This is because EG is a low rent, so-called, self-styled, cyber-Simon Gruber, who is pathologically incapable of admitting that I got him good the other day.
 

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Give it up Silk, we've got our country back and Farage is the hero that made it happen. He'll be knighted and put on banknotes one day.

If you genuinely believe that, then I pity you.
 

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It is quite clear that here, as with Trump, EG is dispositionally inclined to interpret the rise of a demagogue as a testament to their power, masculinity, rock-hard girthful phallus etc, and as a confirmation of the abiding value of such qualities in the political realm. As opposed to interpreting their rise as a grim demonstration of a stopped clock appearing to be being correct a tiny fraction of the time, when the societal climate and the failures of others create the conditions for a sympathetic hearing of their foments (the legitimising assistance of useful idiots like Alty is not insignificant either, obviously).

This is because EG is a low rent, so-called, self-styled, cyber-Simon Gruber, who is pathologically incapable of admitting that I got him good the other day.
Now this is a battle I want to see. Hopefully EG responds with aggression.
 
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Leaked campaign song from UKIP's upcoming campaign to 'get the fuck on with it already'

 
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It is quite clear that here, as with Trump, EG is dispositionally inclined to interpret the rise of a demagogue as a testament to their power, masculinity, rock-hard girthful phallus etc, and as a confirmation of the abiding value of such qualities in the political realm. As opposed to interpreting their rise as a grim demonstration of a stopped clock appearing to be being correct a tiny fraction of the time, when the societal climate and the failures of others create the conditions for a sympathetic hearing of their foments (the legitimising assistance of useful idiots like Alty is not insignificant either, obviously).

This is because EG is a low rent, so-called, self-styled, cyber-Simon Gruber, who is pathologically incapable of admitting that I got him good the other day.
You alright, Carel? I know that for you psychoanalysing a fellow Hullensian is probably more fun than actually discussing the topic at hand in a reasonable way, but you sound like you're losing the plot a bit.
 
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Idiocy and buying into the overall bullshit of the Leave campaign, of which Farage was just one part.
Even if your rather reductive and ungenerous analysis were correct, it still doesn't explain why we had a referendum in the first place. You know? A chance for all those racist, brain-dead plebs to get it wrong.

The only reason we had a referendum is because Nigel Farage spooked Dave into promising one. This isn't to give credit or apportion blame. It's just to point out the political reality. Left to its own devices, the Tory Party will never do anything bold vis-à-vis Europe. The EU-sceptic cause needed the emergence of a rival conservative party to keep the Tories 'honest'. UKIP did that, and in the process achieved its main political objective, because Farage built the party to a point where it was taking a few million votes from the Tories rather than a few hundred thousand.

Alas, Nigel probably ceased to be useful as soon as the European Union Referendum Act 2015 received Royal Assent. There are good reasons for thinking he did more harm than good during the campaign, and it's hard to see what possible good he could do in the near future. Just look at his uber-obnoxious and antagonistic speech in the EP the other day. Stuff like that isn't just embarrassing; it's grossly irresponsible. We won. The priority now is securing the best possible withdrawal agreement. That's going to require skilful diplomacy, intelligent arguments and a conciliatory tone. Farage can't provide that. He might as well have bent over in front of Martin Schultz and farted in his face.

I have no idea why he's quit. Could be be personal. Could be due to various political machinations behind the scenes. Whatever the cause, hopefully he'll stay out of the spotlight for a while. He got us the referendum, and I'll always be grateful, but the EU-sceptic cause has suddenly advanced to a point where he's more likely to hinder than help.
 
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You alright, Carel? I know that for you psychoanalysing a fellow Hullensian is probably more fun than actually discussing the topic at hand in a reasonable way, but you sound like you're losing the plot a bit.


Alty, thankyou for your concern. To say that your post here was thought provoking would be something of an understatement. More accurate would be to say that it prompted me to embark on an exercise that a less jaded individual might describe as 'soul-searching'. It was a reverie that scarified my very synapses. I found that I was lost. Adrift. Everything I had once thought to be true was revealed to be built on quicksand. I was at sea, on my own private raft of the medusa, without outboard engine nor humble oaken oar. I looked further, delving deeper into your posting history, deeper into myself. I emerged this morning a new man, a different man, and (I hope, I so dearly hope) a better man. I stand here now naked before you, a new born babe of the mind. I yearn to relate to you the epiphanies that have changed me forever, but I lack the words - the things that I have learned are the bantlings of a realm beyond the horizon of mere articulation.

Thusly, and I hope this is ok with you, but I have chosen to respond to you in the only way I know how: in the medium of art, specifically a capriccio on Magritte's The Castle of The Pyrenees.

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If you would be interested in purchasing it for the sum of 25 of our plummeting pounds then please let me know. I accept Paypal.

Thanks.
 

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What's happened to EG these day? Has Carel spooked him?
 

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