FA Youth Cup 2016-17

[Kenneth E End]

Obviously a lot of lower league teams/supporters take an interest in this competition. The first round was (being) completed this week:

First Round
19:00 5 Hyde United FC 1 - 4 Morecambe FC
19:00 34 Newport County AFC 0 - 1 Yeovil Town FC
19:30 13 Dunkirk FC 3 - 2 Coventry City FC AET
19:00 18 Chesterfield FC 3 - 1 Walsall FC
19:00 27 Ware FC 2 - 4 Stevenage FC AET
19:30 39 Salisbury FC 2 - 3 Swindon Town FC
19:45 31 Folkestone Invicta FC 1 - 4 Merstham FC
20:00 25 AFC Sudbury 2 - 1 Framlingham Town FC
19:00 2 Chester FC 1 - 0 Fleetwood Town FC
19:00 6 Wrexham FC 0 - 2 Accrington Stanley FC
19:00 7 Bolton Wanderers FC 2 - 1 Blackpool FC AET
19:00 8 Scunthorpe United FC 2 - 0 Grimsby Town FC
19:00 24 Dagenham & Redbridge FC 7 - 3 Colchester United FC
19:30 11 FC Halifax Town 2 - 2 York City FC AET, FC Halifax Town won 4-3 on kicks from the penalty mark
19:30 12 Rochdale AFC 7 - 0 Ryton & Crawcrook Albion FC
19:30 17 Bedworth United FC 0 - 3 Mansfield Town FC
19:30 23 Southend United FC 0 - 6 Leyton Orient FC
19:30 37 Andover Town FC 2 - 3 Oxford City FC
19:45 19 Boston United FC 3 - 2 Hereford FC
19:00 1 Bradford City FC 1 - 0 Hartlepool United FC
19:00 3 Sheffield United FC 2 - 1 Crewe Alexandra FC
19:00 9 Oldham Athletic FC 2 - 0 Bury FC
19:00 10 Tranmere Rovers FC 3 - 0 Doncaster Rovers FC
19:00 14 Notts County FC 1 - 3 Romulus FC
19:00 21 Cambridge United FC 4 - 1 Beaconsfield SYCOB FC
19:00 22 Barnet FC 1 - 3 Luton Town FC
19:00 26 Milton Keynes Dons FC 6 - 1 AFC Hornchurch
19:00 28 Charlton Athletic FC 1 - 1 Maidstone United FC AET, Charlton Athletic FC won 3-1 on kicks from the penalty mark
19:00 38 Cheltenham Town FC 1 - 5 Plymouth Argyle FC
19:30 20 Boreham Wood FC 1 - 0 Northampton Town FC
19:30 30 Gillingham FC 3 - 1 Corinthian FC
19:30 32 AFC Wimbledon 8 - 1 North Greenford United FC
19:45 4 FC United Of Manchester 0 - 2 Carlisle United FC
19:45 16 Shrewsbury Town FC 5 - 1 Wolverhampton Casuals FC
19:45 33 Gloucester City FC 0 - 4 Poole Town FC
19:45 35 Radstock Town FC 0 - 8 Exeter City FC
19:00 15 Peterborough United FC 2 - 0 Port Vale FC
19:00 40 Portsmouth FC 5 - 0 Eastleigh FC
19:45 36 Oxford United FC 0 - 2 Bristol Rovers FC
Millwall v Worthing (Mon)

Second Round Draw
1 FC Halifax Town VS Sheffield United
2 Rochdale AFC VS Shrewsbury Town
3 Chester VS Bolton Wanderers
4 Morecambe VS Accrington Stanley
5 Mansfield Town VS Dunkirk
6 Chesterfield VS Carlisle United
7 Bradford City VS Boston United
8 Scunthorpe United VS Tranmere Rovers
9 Romulus VS Oldham Athletic
10 Poole Town VS Leyton Orient
11 Swindon Town VS AFC Sudbury
12 Plymouth Argyle VS Gillingham
13 Stevenage VS Charlton Athletic
14 Luton Town VS Dagenham & Redbridge
15 Oxford City VS Peterborough United
16 Boreham Wood VS FC Broxbourne Borough
17 Portsmouth VS Metropolitan Police
19 Yeovil Town VS Merstham
20 AFC Wimbledon VS Bristol Rovers
21 Exeter City VS Milton Keynes Dons

 

[hellogregory]

What a shit second round draw that is

 

[E10rifle]

Expecting us to go much further than the first team. We would probably slaughter everyone in that draw, to be honest. Will get knocked out by a PL Academy eventually.

 

[Kenneth E End]

We would probably slaughter everyone in that draw, to be honest.

That is a bit of a stupid statement that to be honest. I've just had a look that (before this morning) Orient have PL11 W11 in the EFL YA. Its not really a great indicator because some teams use the competition for different purposes - some, like us, have been sending the older ones to U21 football and have used the opportunity to blood some U16s.

I think Luton played you 2 weeks ago and we lost 5-3, so hardly "slaughtered". We were the only EPPP3 team to get to the Quarter Finals and beat you in the competition last season, as well as winning both the League and the League Cup. About 10 players have gone on to play for the First Team under Nathan Jones this calendar year and our development team have already beaten comfortably an EPPP1 academy this season.

 

[E10rifle]

Not that you're precious about it or anything.

 

[Murphy]

Looking forward to dispatching Luton after storming past Colchester in midweek

 

[jacobncfc]

That is a bit of a stupid statement that to be honest. I've just had a look that (before this morning) Orient have PL11 W11 in the EFL YA. Its not really a great indicator because some teams use the competition for different purposes - some, like us, have been sending the older ones to U21 football and have used the opportunity to blood some U16s.

I think Luton played you 2 weeks ago and we lost 5-3, so hardly "slaughtered". We were the only EPPP3 team to get to the Quarter Finals and beat you in the competition last season, as well as winning both the League and the League Cup. About 10 players have gone on to play for the First Team under Nathan Jones this calendar year and our development team have already beaten comfortably an EPPP1 academy this season.

Youth development is a funny one though, ain't it. The actual results of the team are largely irrelevant, it's about producing one or two players each year who are actually good enough.

We got embarrassed by Romulus of darkest non-league in this and are never particularly successful at youth level, but when we played you a couple of weeks ago we had two academy graduates starting (and a third who would if fit), whereas none of your 14 used players were. All in the output, my friend.

 

[Kenneth E End]

Youth development is a funny one though, ain't it. The actual results of the team are largely irrelevant, it's about producing one or two players each year who are actually good enough.

We got embarrassed by Romulus of darkest non-league in this and are never particularly successful at youth level, but when we played you a couple of weeks ago we had two academy graduates starting (and a third who would if fit), whereas none of your 14 used players were. All in the output, my friend.

Absolutely - Coventry lost to Dunkirk! Our team yesterday only had the one homegrown player in our starting XI, but several others on the fringes.
Because we've cheated in the EFL Trophy, we've used 14 youth/academy players in our matchday 18s this season.

I find it sad though that two NL teams had to be given byes in the first round, as a couple like Wycombe can't/won't field a side. There's probably 400-500 teams in this competition and they can't be bothered with an U18 side?

 

[jacobncfc]

Absolutely - Coventry lost to Dunkirk! Our team yesterday only had the one homegrown player in our starting XI, but several others on the fringes.
Because we've cheated in the EFL Trophy, we've used 14 youth/academy players in our matchday 18s this season.

I find it sad though that two NL teams had to be given byes in the first round, as a couple like Wycombe can't/won't field a side. There's probably 400-500 teams in this competition and they can't be bothered with an U18 side?

In some ways I can understand it because the costs are so high and if you do produce one player who is worth a lot EPPP means they'll probably leave for buttons.

It definitely takes something away though and for us the stated purpose seems to be not to produce stars but a couple of solid players each year to bull out the squad with homegrown kids rather than journeymen.

Seems to be working for us so far and there might always be one Jordan Richards who pops up!

 

[Kenneth E End]

In some ways I can understand it because the costs are so high and if you do produce one player who is worth a lot EPPP means they'll probably leave for buttons.

It definitely takes something away though and for us the stated purpose seems to be not to produce stars but a couple of solid players each year to bull out the squad with homegrown kids rather than journeymen.

Seems to be working for us so far and there might always be one Jordan Richards who pops up!

To a point I agree with you, however Wycombe have just received a wedge for Jordan Ibe. Its difficult, when we were in NL we had to spend over £400,000 a year on maintaining the academy. Its something us Luton fans are historically very proud of.

In NL, we originally had no protection, so teams (cough Peterborough cough) were around us like vultures trying to pick them off one by one. Very few of those who we, as a result, sold for decent money have broken through and a few have disappeared altogether. And those who have, have hefty sell on clauses.

I think as a result, more teams have tried to focus on those players who can't break through to their PL/Champ first team. In our case, Cameron McGeehan and Pelly Ruddock for instance.

 

[northstandexile]

Also Crawley and Brentford have withdrawn or not entered in addition to Wycombe.

 

[Vanni]

May I respectfully point out that the junior mighty U's have made it to the second round, but Kenny has deemed otherwise. What makes it even worse in my eyes is that he could've omitted the Pish game for instance, but no, he decided to omit us.

Kenny, this is UNFORGIVABLE

 

[Kenneth E End]

May I respectfully point out that the junior mighty U's have made it to the second round, but Kenny has deemed otherwise. What makes it even worse in my eyes is that he could've omitted the Pish game for instance, but no, he decided to omit us.

Kenny, this is UNFORGIVABLE

Blame the FA and their completely unusable website.

 

[mowgli]

Also Crawley and Brentford have withdrawn or not entered in addition to Wycombe.

That's because we couldn't afford to keep our academy going after our previous chairman left us £6,000,000 in debt.Wycombe fans are being kept in the dark regarding the money from Ibe's transfer but it seems Liverpool are stalling on the money they owe us,hopefully we can start the academy again when we finally get the money owed.

 

[cufc17]

We've beaten Chesterfield 2-1 tonight, and we'll play Barnsley away next.

We seem to have a decent youth team at the moment, hopefully one or two break through into the first team in the coming years.

 

[Richard Cranium]

We won 5-2. Good game, the Dunkirk fans let off 3 flares.

 

[E10rifle]

Beat Poole 7-1. Leicester up next.

 

[Kenneth E End]

Luton beat D&R 4-3 last night; on to Sheffield Wednesday in R3.

19:00">19:0025 Stoke City VS West Ham United
19:00">19:00 29 Tottenham Hotspur VS Stevenage
19:00">19:00 13 Brighton & Hove Albion VS Derby County
19:00">19:00 19 Sunderland AFC VS Burton Albion
19:00">19:00 1 Middlesbrough VS Rotherham United date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 2 Liverpool VS Crystal Palace date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 3 FC Broxbourne Borough VS Chester date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 4 Burnley VS Bradford City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 5 Watford VS Norwich City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 6 Gillingham VS Oxford City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 7 Huddersfield Town VS AFC W'don / Bristol Rov date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 8 Reading VS Manchester City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 9 Swindon T / AFC Sudbury VS Queens Park Rangers date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 10 Shrewsbury Town VS Accrington Stanley date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 11 Portsmouth VS Newcastle United date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 12 Leicester City VS Leyton Orient date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 14 Exeter City / MK Dons VS Wigan Athletic
19:00">19:00 15 Arsenal VS Blackburn Rovers date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 16 Preston North End VS Sheffield United date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 17 Oldham Athletic VS Birmingham City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 18 Swansea City VS Wolverhampton Wanderers date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 20 Fulham VS Mansfield Town date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 21 Cambridge United VS AFC Bournemouth date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 22 Barnsley VS Carlisle United date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 23 Chelsea VS Cardiff City date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 24 Everton VS Tranmere Rovers date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 26 Nottingham Forest VS Ipswich Town date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 27 West Bromwich Albion VS Yeovil Town date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 28 Hull City VS Leeds United AFC date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 30 Bristol City VS Aston Villa date & kick off tbc
19:00">19:00 31 Sheffield Wednesday VS Luton Town
19:00">19:00 32 Manchester United VS Southampton

 

[GrahamSFC]

Draw has thrown up a weird situation in that our U18's will be playing their next fixture as the 'away' side at their own ground, this is due to Spurs youth teams using The Lamex as their base ground too. Should hopefully contribute towards a healthy crowd!

 

[Grecian O'Grecian]

Beat MK Dons 3-1.

Home to Wigan in the next round.

 

[E10rifle]

That is a bit of a stupid statement that to be honest. I've just had a look that (before this morning) Orient have PL11 W11 in the EFL YA. Its not really a great indicator because some teams use the competition for different purposes - some, like us, have been sending the older ones to U21 football and have used the opportunity to blood some U16s.

I think Luton played you 2 weeks ago and we lost 5-3, so hardly "slaughtered". We were the only EPPP3 team to get to the Quarter Finals and beat you in the competition last season, as well as winning both the League and the League Cup. About 10 players have gone on to play for the First Team under Nathan Jones this calendar year and our development team have already beaten comfortably an EPPP1 academy this season.

Handy 5-1 defeat for your team of kinder ubermensch this week.

 

[E10rifle]

Unlucky to Exeter's kiddies who bow out to Wigan in extra time tonight. Yeovil are already through and will be hoping to progress all the way to play Luton, who have been given a bye to the final and were in no way exterminated 4-zip by Sheffield Wednesday at the weekend. Upcoming matches with League Poo interest:

Weds:
Leicester vs. Clown College
Cambridge vs. Bournemouth

Fri:
Fulham vs. Mansfield
Barnsley vs. Carlisle

If the young clowns and Carlisle are both victorious, it will guarantee a basement-dweller in the fifth round.

 

[BelizeHatter]

Lol. We did get thrashed. It's football and happens to everyone. You should go find Urban, <3

 

[BelizeHatter]

Good luck to all the L2 teams left in. Always good to see us small fry challenge the odds and the big bucks

 

[Laker]

Our yoofs just beat Bournemouth 2-1, coming from behind with two late goals. We've got Brighton or Derby away in the next round.

Edit: Brighton away.

 

[E10rifle]

Well done Cambridge! We fell 3-1 at the King Power, but were unlucky to lose by all accounts. First defeat in 20-odd games.

Best of luck to Mansfield and Carlisle on Friday.

 

[BeesKnees]

That's because we couldn't afford to keep our academy going after our previous chairman left us £6,000,000 in debt.Wycombe fans are being kept in the dark regarding the money from Ibe's transfer but it seems Liverpool are stalling on the money they owe us,hopefully we can start the academy again when we finally get the money owed.

I hear you've now received the money and are debt free which is good news if true.
The starting 11 in our last league game contained 5 players that have come through our youth system, plus another on the bench so I'd say it's working well for us.

 

[cufc17]

Our youth team beat Barnsley away 1-0 tonight, great result and a trip to Leicester is the reward.

It seems like we've got a few promising young players coming through at the moment, hopefully see some make it into the first team.

 

[E10rifle]

Great result, shame we couldn't match it and meet up in the next round.

Got over our disappointment by beating Northampton this morning and winning our league with 5 games to spare. Which can't be right, as Luton are in our division, so surely they must be running away with it...?