New Loan Rules for 2016/17

[StuartD]

Interesting article about the new load system from a Premiership point of view.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/05/new-loan-rules-201617-will-affect-liverpool-next-season/

Key things are:-

- Loans can only be completed during Transfer windows (No more short term loans)

- No recall option (only in windows)

- Liverpool plan to add 20 additional U21 games due to not being able to loan out as freely due to the recall option disappearing.

How do you think it will impact your club?

Personally at Wimbledon we have excellent academies and our U21's finished runner up in one of the Southern Leagues to Bournemouth.

 

[Freethinker]

There will be an increase in Freak scores when Barnstonworth Rovers with a 16 year old Left Back play Melchester Rovers with a 17 year old Goalkeeper and the game ends 6-5.

 

[LS Bantam]

We have more loans than Wonga so it'll mean big changes for us

 

[Aber gas]

We've never been particularly good at playing the loan market so it won't effect us too much. I see the rule changes as a positive. It will make managers plan better and actually coach their players to hopefully improve them. It will also make managers look down the leagues for players to develop rather than relying on their mate being the u21 coach at a premier league team.

 

[Freethinker]

We've never been particularly good at playing the loan market so it won't effect us too much. I see the rule changes as a positive. It will make managers plan better and actually coach their players to hopefully improve them. It will also make managers look down the leagues for players to develop rather than relying on their mate being the u21 coach at a premier league team.

Nope, it will just add to costs as the club will have to loan (or even recruit) 4 or 5 players for a whole 'window' 4 or 6 months of wages, rather than loan them for 1 or 2 months as and when someone gets injured or goes badly out of form.

 

[Aber gas]

Nope, it will just add to costs as the club will have to loan (or even recruit) 4 or 5 players for a whole 'window' 4 or 6 months of wages, rather than loan them for 1 or 2 months as and when someone gets injured or goes badly out of form.

Or they will have to turn to their own youth set up. I don't blame clubs for using the system to their advantage but now the rules have changed I think it will make clubs more self sufficient.

 

[mente captus]

i see as a positive. young talent from the top clubs will get more long-term-loans in the top flight ( some weaker clubs will polster their squad with them i think) instead of being loaned out to 3 different championship clubs in the same amount of months.

some good examples from over here are Lahm ( for 2 years at Stuttgart) Alaba (for 18 months at Hoffenheim) Kroos (for 18 months at Leverkusen) Hummels ( for 18 months at Dortmund) Holtby (for 2 years at Bochum) and many many more

 

[BRFC_Gas]

If I had it my way loans would be done away with altogether.
It has always been accepted as part of football but basically you are being helped by another team.
Clubs will have to try and put a strong squad together of their own players, I could take getting the run around by a L1 opposition player much more than a youngster loaned from the Premiership/Championship.
The loan market isn't an even playing field to be fair imo.

 

[JoeJoeJoeJoe]

Reducing the opportunities for youngsters that they sign from us to get valuable first-team experience. Bravo.

 

[Aber gas]

Reducing the opportunities for youngsters that they sign from us to get valuable first-team experience. Bravo.

It won't effect season long or even half season loans. So a situation similar to Tottenham's arrangement with MK over Alli is still possible.

 

[AnotherSaddler]

I'm not in favour of the loan system. 5 loanees on a team sheet is too many.

I note that youth loans, defined as "Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question." can still be registered when the transfer window is closed. That's if I've understood it correctly!

Read more at http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx#5dYVltmYefQmD8dW.99

 

[Liam_SWFC]

I'm happy with it, it wont limit younger players opportunities it just means clubs have to take them on longer loan deals, no more bringing in a Premier League reserve player to pointlessly warm the bench. I could possibly see it effecting smaller budget clubs who use short term loans as a way of getting by, not a very sustainable model so this is good for me.

 

[Freethinker]

I'm not in favour of the loan system. 5 loanees on a team sheet is too many.

I note that youth loans, defined as "Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question." can still be registered when the transfer window is closed. That's if I've understood it correctly!

Read more at http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx#5dYVltmYefQmD8dW.99

Nope, you missed this bit....

Note: Clubs have agreed to changes to these provisions for Season 2016/17 onwards. Copies are available from The Football League on request.

Where Emergency and Youth Loans outside the window are out!

 

[OUFC Dan]

Happy with this, not perfect, but better than the alternative.

I wish they'd limit clubs to 3 loanees at any one time though.

 

[Agombar stool]

Some interesting points, especially the one about youth players that can be registered outside the window.

Swindon have been utilising the youth market over the last 2 years but our chairman Lee Power has used his contacts to generally get players from Premier league clubs for the season rather than month by month (that's not to say we have never done short term loans). Also we have generally used much younger players (Jordan Turnbull and Jack Stephens for example from saints) so for us, not a lot has changed too much.

I'd still rather we invested in talented youngsters from non-league, but i think we'll continue to have a mix of both.

 

[AnotherSaddler]

Nope, you missed this bit....



Where Emergency and Youth Loans outside the window are out!

Some interesting points, especially the one about youth players that can be registered outside the window.

Swindon have been utilising the youth market over the last 2 years but our chairman Lee Power has used his contacts to generally get players from Premier league clubs for the season rather than month by month (that's not to say we have never done short term loans). Also we have generally used much younger players (Jordan Turnbull and Jack Stephens for example from saints) so for us, not a lot has changed too much.

I'd still rather we invested in talented youngsters from non-league, but i think we'll continue to have a mix of both.

Apparently youth loans cannot be registered outside the window - I've misunderstood the FL rules. See Freethinkers post above!

 

[dedwardp]

The changes suit clubs like us or Crewe where we have strong academies and U21s etc to call upon without having to rely on loans. In theory, anyway, we'll see how that pans out in practice.

 

[Agombar stool]

As a slight aside, I saw that Crewe nearly got Rashford on loan last season!

 

[SGW]

There's two sides to this, though.

Yes, there's too much reliance on loans and having half a team of PL loan players can theoretically distort the competition in the lower leagues (which is FIFA's worry). But has that ever happened in practice?

On the other hand, what about the youngsters themselves (ignoring older loanees here)? How is restricting their ability to go on loan going to help their development?

At the moment, most (as in 95 to 99%) 1st/2nd 3rd year pros find it somewhere between bloody difficult and totally impossible to break into their club's first team so have to go out on loan to get experience of real football. And at the moment, clubs lower down the ladder can take them on a month-by-month basis as and when they have gaps to fill and it's pretty low risk for both parties.

But what's going to happen to those youngsters when they can't go on a monthly loan? It's a big risk (and a fair chunk of budget) for a club to commit to taking an untried youngster for half a season or a full season. You could argue that will force clubs to blood their own youngsters but what happens when your only decent youngster is a full back and what you really desperately need is a midfielder?

 

[blade1889]

I'm happy with the change but would like an extra 'clause' about limiting the amount of players a club can loan out. Basically anything to try and stop clubs 'hoarding' talent