2023/24 League Two Promotion Thread

[Stocky]

Hope so and it certainly looks that way.

Playoff spot was the aim (and no more) first season back and all and likely under our own head coach. But that's the problem we were victims of our own success. If your manager had been headhunted by a far bigger Championship club in January I suspect you would have dropped down the league.

Not that you would have gone Part time but we like to gamble and do things differently

Williams had a good track record though as a Coach though, very highly thought of in the game. Maynard is just some random non league manager who did a solid job at Wealdstone but rode on Dean Brennan's coat tails and the things he implemented at Wealdstone.

I know your owners don't go for the obvious but I don't think they're quite as astute as some of your fans have made out.

 

[Stocky]

The only pressure is people outside thinking there's pressure on us. Last season was pressure, every match a must win, so this is very relaxing in comparison.

The owners won't be as relaxed with the outlay they've spent and therefore, I don't see Parkinson being relaxed for the same reason.

Our owner will be really frustrated if we just miss out again and Challinor won't be relaxed about that.

Mansfield have been in this cycle for ten plus years with Radford's money down here, many managers have faced the bullet.

I agree it's nowhere near as nervy as a fan as it was in the National League though.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Williams had a good track record though as a Coach though, very highly thought of in the game. Maynard is just some random non league manager who did a solid job at Wealdstone but rode on Dean Brennan's coat tails and the things he implemented at Wealdstone.

I know your owners don't go for the obvious but I don't think they're quite as astute as some of your fans have made out.

Respectively yet very confidently, I'm going to suggest the majority but not all Notts fans know a lot more about the owners and the club than a random Stockport fan.

The owners overall have been superb off the pitch and very good on the pitch. You obviously can't get every decision right, you've just got to aim to get the majority right. They have done and with ease.

This looks a massive misstep but I like the gamble and so many coaches with good track records are successful like Williams was.

But then again he's viewed as overrated in some (more distant) quarters

Predict was happens if Challinor leaves in January? Possible decline in Stockports fortunes?

 

[AdamStag]

The owners won't be as relaxed with the outlay they've spent and therefore, I don't see Parkinson being relaxed for the same reason.

Our owner will be really frustrated if we just miss out again and Challinor won't be relaxed about that.

Mansfield have been in this cycle for ten plus years with Radford's money down here, many managers have faced the bullet.

I agree it's nowhere near as nervy as a fan as it was in the National League though.

There is an agreement between the club and clough that they could part ways if we don’t go up, but i couldn’t see it / there’s no better manager in this league than the one we’ve got.

Sometimes fall your way, others they don’t - to be that bad yesterday against colchester (and their attempt at football) and be another point further from 4th is actually an excellent days work.

We’re 6 clear of Mk, with a game in hand a GD 33 better than theres, if we cock it up it’s all on us.

 

[Stocky]

Respectively yet very confidently, I'm going to suggest the majority but not all Notts fans know a lot more about the owners and the club than a random Stockport fan.

The owners overall have been superb off the pitch and very good on the pitch. You obviously can't get every decision right, you've just got to aim to get the majority right. They have done and with ease.

This looks a massive misstep but I like the gamble and so many coaches with good track records are successful like Williams was.

But then again he's viewed as overrated in some (more distant) quarters

Predict was happens if Challinor leaves in January? Possible decline in Stockports fortunes?

If Challinor went, he'd go with our well wishes and there would be disappointment but I'd be stunned if our structure replaced him with a manager who'd never managed at or worked at a full time football club.

Notts talk is probably best saved for the Mid table thread for now though mate, no disrespect, just don't want to set this thread off track.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

If Challinor went, he'd go with our well wishes and there would be disappointment but I'd be stunned if our structure replaced him with a manager who'd never managed at or worked at a full time football club.

Notts talk is probably best saved for the Mid table thread for now though mate, no disrespect, just don't want to set this thread off track.

But would there be a likely decline? I'd say so, almost guaranteed.

Agreed. Midland folk talking about Midland clubs makes sense.

 

[Stocky]

There is an agreement between the club and clough that they could part ways if we don’t go up, but i couldn’t see it / there’s no better manager in this league than the one we’ve got.

Sometimes fall your way, others they don’t - to be that bad yesterday against colchester (and their attempt at football) and be another point further from 4th is actually an excellent days work.

We’re 6 clear of Mk, with a game in hand a GD 33 better than theres, if we cock it up it’s all on us.

I wanted you to beat MK when you played them a few Tuesday's ago. I was disappointed you lost, if you'd done them I reckon yourselves, ourselves and Wrexham wouldn't be far from being home and hosed.

If you go off PPG, it's Barrow who are possibly the biggest threat to the top three. They sneak a lot of wins. All their games are very tight though, which leaves them open to fine margin results which makes it difficult to go on a really long winning run without quite a slick of luck. They have a decent run in though.

 

[Master D]

The owners won't be as relaxed with the outlay they've spent and therefore, I don't see Parkinson being relaxed for the same reason.

Our owner will be really frustrated if we just miss out again and Challinor won't be relaxed about that.

Mansfield have been in this cycle for ten plus years with Radford's money down here, many managers have faced the bullet.

I agree it's nowhere near as nervy as a fan as it was in the National League though.

Parkinson has enough credit in the bank that he's safe whatever happens this season I would say. He could actually find himself in worse trouble if we went up and started poorly in L1.

Owners would need to invest millions in this squad to get it competing anywhere near the top of L1. You'd like to think they know that and it's all been factored in. It would need a big overhaul this summer. Whether Parkinson is still a L1 level manager these days is unknown too, a lot of us have thought if we got there it would be time for someone else to take it on from there.

 

[Conker]

I just wished we found a way to beat those shithouses yesterday to relive some pressure for the Wrexham game.

Obviously we lost our best two defenders (pre Flint) to season long injuries so any notion of good luck is ridiculous, our squad, and consequently budget is small in comparison to Wrexham and Stockport too but we have had the advantage of being here for a while now.

I reckon the top three will probably be us lot, I’ll happily take 3rd.

 

[Conker]

The owners won't be as relaxed with the outlay they've spent and therefore, I don't see Parkinson being relaxed for the same reason.

Our owner will be really frustrated if we just miss out again and Challinor won't be relaxed about that.

Mansfield have been in this cycle for ten plus years with Radford's money down here, many managers have faced the bullet.

I agree it's nowhere near as nervy as a fan as it was in the National League though.

We only started to become competitive financially in Steve Evans second season FYI.

In fact our second season back in the EFL we had the third smallest budget in the league.

 

[AdamStag]

Parkinson has enough credit in the bank that he's safe whatever happens this season I would say. He could actually find himself in worse trouble if we went up and started poorly in L1.

Owners would need to invest millions in this squad to get it competing anywhere near the top of L1. You'd like to think they know that and it's all been factored in. It would need a big overhaul this summer. Whether Parkinson is still a L1 level manager these days is unknown too, a lot of us have thought if we got there it would be time for someone else to take it on from there.

Terrible game tbh. But effective tactics, colchester looked better than their position in the league by some margin.

 

[EnglishRed]

I just wished we found a way to beat those shithouses yesterday to relive some pressure for the Wrexham game.

Obviously we lost our best two defenders (pre Flint) to season long injuries so any notion of good luck is ridiculous, our squad, and consequently budget is small in comparison to Wrexham and Stockport too but we have had the advantage of being here for a while now.

I reckon the top three will probably be us lot, I’ll happily take 3rd.

I'd snap your hand off for third.

 

[AdamStag]

I'd snap your hand off for third.

So would i. though obviously can’t both finish there

With wrexham, MK and barrow the 3 remaining away fixtures i find it hard to believe we’d finish top.

You just know the fixtures of wrexham vs stockport and barrow vs mansfield on last day is going to be chaos!

 

[chipmunx]

So would i. though obviously can’t both finish there

With wrexham, MK and barrow the 3 remaining away fixtures i find it hard to believe we’d finish top.

You just know the fixtures of wrexham vs stockport and barrow vs mansfield on last day is going to be chaos!

IF either Wrexham and Stockport are a point ahead of Mansfield and Barrow - or the other way round, there will be full on West Germany v Austria World Cup style conspiracy theories if the 2 teams at the top draw 0-0 knowing the draw would put them both up

 

[Conker]

I’m finding it difficult to look beyond Stockport for the title looking at the fixtures.

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

I’m finding it difficult to look beyond Stockport for the title looking at the fixtures.

Let’s remember we’ve won two games in our last eight.

It’s seemed like no one had wanted to win this league/promotion over the last few months.

 

[AdamStag]

Let’s remember we’ve won two games in our last eight.

It’s seemed like no one had wanted to win this league/promotion over the last few months.

It seems like every time theres a chance to put it to bed theres a slip up, as i still maintain anything other than wrexham for champions would be a remarkable achievement.

Had we beat MK the other tuesday, or won saturday while MK drew we’d have danced off into the sunset, whereas it’s still a promising picture we’ve had several chances already to more or less confirm it.

 

[Less than a mile (WAFC)]

If anyone finishes above wrexham it will be an extraordinary effort on their part given the vast differences in finances.

As said all along, anything other than wrexham winning the title would be an extraordinary surprise and a failure on their part, that we’re still top is also a surprise.

7 games to go for most, it’s condensing down.

Anyone other than Wrexham is not a 'extraordinary surprise'.

We weren't even the bookmakers favourite prior to the start of the season.

 

[AdamStag]

Anyone other than Wrexham is not a 'extraordinary surprise'.

We weren't even the bookmakers favourite prior to the start of the season.

You were favourites for both promotion and the title, and rightfully so given your budget is easily higher than anyone else’s, let’s not be coy.

https://www.bettingodds.com/news/league-two-winner-odds-2023-24

You’ve easily the biggest budget in the league https://www.capology.com/uk/league-two/payrolls/

League Two 24/25

This is the page for the League Two, with an overview of fixtures, tables, dates, squads, market values, statistics and history.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

to put on record i hope wrexham go up if we do, but at the start of the season id have bitten your hand off to finish above wrexham, and still would.

 

[Master D]

We were apparently going to piss the league but at the same time were told how tough the league is and we don't know what's hit us.

This isn't the National League now you know!

 

[Less than a mile (WAFC)]

You were favourites for both promotion and the title, and rightfully so given your budget is easily higher than anyone else’s, let’s not be coy.

https://www.bettingodds.com/news/league-two-winner-odds-2023-24

You’ve easily the biggest budget in the league https://www.capology.com/uk/league-two/payrolls/

League Two 24/25

This is the page for the League Two, with an overview of fixtures, tables, dates, squads, market values, statistics and history.

www.transfermarkt.co.uk

to put on record i hope wrexham go up if we do, but at the start of the season id have bitten your hand off to finish above wrexham, and still would.

Stockport were slight favourites with Sky Bet for the title when the season started I think. Our odds went out a bit when we signed just 1-2 players.

Maybe I remember wrong. It was a while ago.

Either way, the link you have sent here gives Wrexham odds of 7/2 when the season started.

So less than a 1 in 3 chance we win the league. Given it would be as you say 'remarkable' and 'extraordinary' if we don't win the league, Im assuming you had a lot on it?

 

[ForzaCounty]

We were clear favourites last summer, and, if it weren't for a cumulative total of about four years' worth of injuries this season, I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest we'd be well clear at the top.

 

[chief]

We were apparently going to piss the league but at the same time were told how tough the league is and we don't know what's hit us.

This isn't the National League now you know!

In the eyes of some here, whatever we say is wrong.

Think we're going to piss it? This league is difficult, no team could come up from non-league and expect it to be easy.

Think top 3 isn't all but guaranteed? With our budget we should be top and if we didn't have that dinosaur Phil Parkinson in charge we'd have 117 points by now.

 

[ForzaCounty]

Yep. Might be best if you just never spoke again.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Pressure getting to the Wrexham contingent.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

In the eyes of some here, whatever we say is wrong.

Think we're going to piss it? This league is difficult, no team could come up from non-league and expect it to be easy.

Think top 3 isn't all but guaranteed? With our budget we should be top and if we didn't have that dinosaur Phil Parkinson in charge we'd have 117 points by now.

Absolutely nailed it. Good work chief.

Just a lot of external almost meaningless noise.

 

[Tinpot and proud]

In the eyes of some here, whatever we say is wrong.

Think we're going to piss it? This league is difficult, no team could come up from non-league and expect it to be easy.

Think top 3 isn't all but guaranteed? With our budget we should be top and if we didn't have that dinosaur Phil Parkinson in charge we'd have 117 points by now.

We all say things that turn out wrong in this forum.....think yours was Barrow are crumbling...falling away.....yet here we are on your heels as the season closes in

 

[chief]

We all say things that turn out wrong in this forum.....think yours was Barrow are crumbling...falling away.....yet here we are on your heels as the season closes in

Very true, though I also called MK Dons raising their game and being the biggest threat to the top 3. I still think that's true!

 

[Richard Cranium]

You did also say we had no chance before the season began

 

[AdamStag]

Just had a look back at the odds at the start of the season for promotion -
Wrexham 4/5
stockport 5/4
Notts county 6/4
Gillingham 5/2
Mansfield 11/4
Bradford 3/1
MK 3/1
Salford 7/2