2025 promotion thread

[EnglishRed]

He's been shite so far this year imo. But then again hes not got really good competition until Burton comes back but that won't be till next season.

As bad as he was on Tuesday that's a harsh assessment. He's not really found his form since coming back from injury though.

I think we will make the play offs but we do need to weather this bad patch of form we are in. Automatic promotion was always a bit of a stretch for us- there is a reason three successive promotions hasn't been done before. The good thing is that there aren't too many clubs in the top half that have looked consistently good either- Leyton Orients form recently has been impressive but they haven't really played anyone decent so it'll be interesting to see how they get on against Stockport, Lincoln and Bolton in Feb.

Definitely all to play for. If someone gets on a good run they can really threaten that second spot.

 

[chief]

Stockport have won this season's UNDER THE RADAR award. Well in the mix now.

 

[folletto]

It feels nice to actually be excited and nervous at this stage of the season, we are usually guaranteed mid table mediocrity by now. Us and Orient definitely the form sides but Bolton are likely to do well under Schumacher.
Bit worried about our run of games coming up though. We have 5 tough games in the next 6 (Peterborough, Birmingham, Orient, Stockport and Barnsley). I know Peterborough are crap right now but they’re a bogey team for us, haven’t beat them in the last 12

 

[denzel ecfc]

We have 5 tough games in the next 6 (Peterborough, Birmingham, Orient, Stockport and Barnsley).

And one easy one...

 

[folletto]

And one easy one...

Only on paper. You'll no doubt beat us

 

[GEORGE]

There's only one team that will go up and stay there and that is Birmingham City. Streets ahead of the rest. Maybe with much investment maybe Bolton & Huddersfield could survive.

 

[folletto]

There's only one team that will go up and stay there and that is Birmingham City. Streets ahead of the rest. Maybe with much investment maybe Bolton & Huddersfield could survive.

I agree the gap is massive between League One and Championship but Oxford have done ok, so it's possible. Wrexham would invest heavily if they went up presumably (FFP dependent) and I'm not even that convinced by Birmingham although again assume they will bring in Top half Championship quality players in the summer. Really not sold on Davies as a manager, it's ok in League One when you're head and shoulders above the rest of the league in quality and you can rely purely on that but it's a different story in the Championship, where it'll be more of a level playing field.

We were crap last time we went up and came straight back down and only went down in the last minute of the season. If we'd have kept Conor Gallagher the whole season we'd have stayed up.

 

[SF_]

Birmingham are a given. Hoping Wrexham & Stockport join them to freshen up that league with some new fixtures. Local too.

Wouldn't complain with Charlton or Orient. Good London trips.

 

[Hudders]

Little over a month ago after beating Wycombe away we were about 13 clear of Charlton , still plenty of games left for them or someone else to nail second spot.
We will do well to stay in the play off picture on current form but hopefully that picks up again like it did when we had a bad run early in the season, admittedly this hasn’t had the feel of a promotion season at all for us so far.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Birmingham are a given. Hoping Wrexham & Stockport join them to freshen up that league with some new fixtures. Local too.

Wouldn't complain with Charlton or Orient. Good London trips.

Honestly, I hope we don't go up as I know we'll have to come straight back down. No chance are we even remotely ready to go up again. Be good to go to Deepdale as i've never been (I remember the 0-5 thrashing you gave us in the 90s when Moyes was in charge!)

 

[SF_]

Honestly, I hope we don't go up as I know we'll have to come straight back down. No chance are we even remotely ready to go up again. Be good to go to Deepdale as i've never been (I remember the 0-5 thrashing you gave us in the 90s when Moyes was in charge!)

Yeah, that Moyes team was stupidly good for this level, reached the Championship (Div 1) play-off final the following season.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Yeah, that Moyes team was stupidly good for this level, reached the Championship (Div 1) play-off final the following season.

Nightmares!

 

[SF_]

Nice. Don't remember us being so longball, but guess we were playing to the pitch. Gregan was such a boss.

Is that Mike Dean as ref??

 

[chief]

Honestly, I hope we don't go up as I know we'll have to come straight back down. No chance are we even remotely ready to go up again.

What a load of rubbish.

As we are? Sure. We'd obviously spend big if we went up though. Hoping we don't go up? Take it you're no longer attending then.

 

[Master D]

I'm somewhere in the middle on that. I think we'd struggle hugely in the Championship and not sure about the level of player we'd be able to attract. We would be small fish at that level and I can't see us suddenly spending the sort of money needed in order to be taking key players away from some huge teams at that level.

I would take us going up and then coming straight back down because we would have made history by 3 successive promotions.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Even just being a yo-yo team between the Champ and L1 would be impressive for anyone

 

[chief]

I'm somewhere in the middle on that. I think we'd struggle hugely in the Championship and not sure about the level of player we'd be able to attract. We would be small fish at that level and I can't see us suddenly spending the sort of money needed in order to be taking key players away from some huge teams at that level.

I would take us going up and then coming straight back down because we would have made history by 3 successive promotions.

Yeah fully agree.

I take issue with people saying they don't want to go up. What's the point in going if that's what they're thinking?

 

[Psycho Mouse]

Really not sold on Davies as a manager, it's ok in League One when you're head and shoulders above the rest of the league in quality and you can rely purely on that but it's a different story in the Championship, where it'll be more of a level playing field.

• In his first ever full manager's job he's jelled a squad that was forcibly almost entirely changed due to 16 players leaving in the summer.
• He's completely changed the playing style the club have had for the last 10 years in a few months.
• After both of our losses we've reacted excellently. We've not lost since November in the league, dropping only 6 points and conceding only 4 goals in that time.
• We're on course for 108 points, and EFL record let alone a League One record. Carry on our ppg from our last loss 14 games ago until the end of the season and we're on for 112.

Yeah we've spent, and it's a stick we'll get beaten with till the end of time, but you've still got to do it, and IMO he's doing far better than I expected him to and far better than I think any of the other serious contenders for the job, like Alex Neil or Gary Rowett, would've done.

Word is our internal targets were the league and Vertu double and 100 points, with 1 eye on the 103 point record. We're on course for it.

Only slight criticisms I have are that we don't take enough risks in the final third and score more goals (but we seem to be a bit more free-flowing of late and we're top scorers with the best GD so who am I to complain) and his subs are sometimes dodgy or too premeditated.

Apart from that I'm delighted tbh, we've met every challenge we've come across really with only a couple of small blips. I was expecting it to be far rockier than it has been.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

What a load of rubbish.

As we are? Sure. We'd obviously spend big if we went up though. Hoping we don't go up? Take it you're no longer attending then.

Yes, it would be a fantastic achievement if we did, but look at the start of the season we all said we'd take consolidation. That is still the case. We need behind the scenes to catch up then go for it again.

 

[folletto]

• In his first ever full manager's job he's jelled a squad that was forcibly almost entirely changed due to 16 players leaving in the summer.
• He's completely changed the playing style the club have had for the last 10 years in a few months.
• After both of our losses we've reacted excellently. We've not lost since November in the league, dropping only 6 points and conceding only 4 goals in that time.
• We're on course for 108 points, and EFL record let alone a League One record. Carry on our ppg from our last loss 14 games ago until the end of the season and we're on for 112.

Yeah we've spent, and it's a stick we'll get beaten with till the end of time, but you've still got to do it, and IMO he's doing far better than I expected him to and far better than I think any of the other serious contenders for the job, like Alex Neil or Gary Rowett, would've done.

Word is our internal targets were the league and Vertu double and 100 points, with 1 eye on the 103 point record. We're on course for it.

Only slight criticisms I have are that we don't take enough risks in the final third and score more goals (but we seem to be a bit more free-flowing of late and we're top scorers with the best GD so who am I to complain) and his subs are sometimes dodgy or too premeditated.

Apart from that I'm delighted tbh, we've met every challenge we've come across really with only a couple of small blips. I was expecting it to be far rockier than it has been.

It's a bit of a cursed job tbh and difficult to judge him on, so he won't get a lot of external praise. Like you said the spending will always be the stick you'll be beaten with. Your squad is so much better than everyone elses you're rightly heavy favourites for every single game you go into, so winning the league isn't an achievement. We're 4/1 tomorrow and we're an inform side that's already had your number this season, just shows the gulf between you and the rest of the league.

Chris Powell did the exact same as those 4 bullet points, and that was without the spending, and he did not end up having a good managerial career.

I think you will buy big again this summer but even so the Championship will be ridiculously tough so if he takes you to the top 6 I'll concede I'm wrong. Tomorrow will be interesting because last time we played you, Davies got his tactics completely wrong against a Nathan Jones side. I expect you to win tomorrow but will be interesting to see how he's learnt from that defeat

 

[Y Ddraig Goch]

I'm somewhere in the middle on that. I think we'd struggle hugely in the Championship and not sure about the level of player we'd be able to attract. We would be small fish at that level and I can't see us suddenly spending the sort of money needed in order to be taking key players away from some huge teams at that level.

I would take us going up and then coming straight back down because we would have made history by 3 successive promotions.

This is where I sit on it to.

Just enjoying the ride at the moment, feels a little less life or death then last season, or the ridiculous race with Notts the season before.

I would worry about how some of the newer fans would react to a season of struggle, whereas us more seasoned fans would probably go in to it just to enjoy the experience.

If the squad building is done correctly as well, coming down from the Championship with a more ready team to compete at that level would give us a better chance to try to push back out of L1 and then try to establish.

My prediction at the moment is just missing out on second, managing to get through the play-off semi's and then just seeing if we turn up at Wembley.

 

[chief]

Yes, it would be a fantastic achievement if we did, but look at the start of the season we all said we'd take consolidation. That is still the case. We need behind the scenes to catch up then go for it again.

Your words were 'I hope we don't go up'. It's just an absolutely baffling thing to say.

Consolidation would be fine, promotion would more more than fine.

Infrastructure will probably progress quicker if anything if we go up.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Your words were 'I hope we don't go up'. It's just an absolutely baffling thing to say.

Consolidation would be fine, promotion would more more than fine.

Infrastructure will probably progress quicker if anything if we go up.

The 'hope not' bit is the fear of coming straight back down the with the least amount of points on the board in that league.

 

[thewwfc]

The 'hope not' bit is the fear of coming straight back down the with the least amount of points on the board in that league.

I seriously doubt that would happen with your resources.

I don't know the contractual situation of your current squad, but I'm sure that there are plenty of players that you'd be shipping out, and getting in reinforcements in the close season.

We only got relegated by a whisker in our one season at that level, and that was with a bottom-4 budget (though we did strengthen).

I would expect you to struggle in the league above for sure, but I don't see why you couldn't end up where, say, Oxford are landing this season.

Don't forget that even Burton managed 2 seasons in the Championship. Yes, the league does get more of a money pit each season, but so is L1 at this stage...

 

[ForzaCounty]

Yeah fully agree.

I take issue with people saying they don't want to go up. What's the point in going if that's what they're thinking?

Ask Carver

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Thursday at 2:03 PM

Worried about getting promoted because you might then get relegated twice, now I've seen it all ...

Really looking like I was right..

• Carver

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[thewwfc]

Brum are practically up barring the mother of all chokes, but the rest of us are still left fighting over the scraps.

Bumps in the road for Wxm and Hudds over the last 6, with Stockport and Orient showing the best form out of the playoff pack right now, Charlton doing well too.