Are Ipswich the real deal ?

[Daviddcfc]

As in , will they stay the course ?

Portsmouth too looking good just now . But I think this is the season Ipswich jump back to near where they belong.

Looking forward to dcfc v Ipswich both fixtures.

 

[nelsonpfc]

It's a tough one, but Ipswich have a huge squad with a lot of league one/bottom championship quality players. Wes Burns probably the best winger/wing back in the division for me. We (Pompey) apart from Sheff Wed we've played sides who I'd expect to be in the lower third of the division. So as much as our unbeaten start is great we are still very much work in progress with 11 new faces in the squad. Think Sheff Wednesday will put some big scores in on some of lower league sides. For me as much as we've had some hatred for them over the years I think Plymouth will be up there and do it under the radar.

 

[Greenacres]

They were pretty decent when we played them in our first home game of the season, the finishing for both of their goals was exceptional, our keeper didn't stand a chance of saving either. However, when we scored their reaction was a mixture of shock and surprise...think we had wandered off script...and for about five minutes (it might have been three and my mind is playing tricks with me) they looked like a boxer on the ropes praying for the bell. However, they soon got over that and resumed control of the game and, despite the final score of 2-1 suggesting a close game, they were worthy winners.

Although we lost our next home game 3-0 to Plymouth I would say that Ipswich looked the better of the two...their ball movement was far slicker and, despite scoring a goal, we rarely troubled their defence. It is a long season but I would expect Ipswich, on that showing, to be play-off contenders at a minimum.

Our next three at home are Shrewsbury, Accrington and Morecambe...which should give us a better idea of the standard of opponent in what is likely to be the lower half of the Division...after that we resume with the upper half with Exeter, Bolton and Pompey...oh, what joys!

 

[UppaTowen_ITFC]

As in , will they stay the course ?

Portsmouth too looking good just now . But I think this is the season Ipswich jump back to near where they belong.

Looking forward to dcfc v Ipswich both fixtures.

Personally, I’d say since McKenna took over we’ve been massively improved. Defensively we don’t really concede. In fact I believe Saturday was only the third time we’ve conceded two in a game under McKenna in his 30 games here.

The football we play is good to watch which is half the battle with getting the fans in the stadium. The feel good factor returned when Evans finally sold the club and all it took was a new manager coming in and playing some decent football to get the attendances back. If you look back to Mick McCarthys time at the club, we were getting top half championship most seasons but 14k attendances because the football was diabolical. Now we’re getting 23/24/25k in league 1. We should be able to make Portman road a fortress and then we will be alright.

I still think us and Sheffield Wednesday for top 2 personally. And Bolton for the playoffs. Though you (Derby) look to have started well too. Should be a good trip to Pride Park later this season. Always a decent trip.

 

[WhiteRussian]

If either Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday don't go up via the autos it's got to be classed as failure. Their squads are far and away better than the rest of the league.

Ipswich seem to have owners that are happy to throw money around so whatever happens they will continue to be well backed. I'm not sure that is the case with Wednesday's owners. Barrie?

 

[UppaTowen_ITFC]

If either Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday don't go up via the autos it's got to be classed as failure. Their squads are far and away better than the rest of the league.

Ipswich seem to have owners that are happy to throw money around so whatever happens they will continue to be well backed. I'm not sure that is the case with Wednesday's owners. Barrie?

Can I just point out that since the owners took over, we’ve barely actually spent anything that we didn’t have come in. Our net spend really ain’t as high as people think.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Can I just point out that since the owners took over, we’ve barely actually spent anything that we didn’t have come in. Our net spend really ain’t as high as people think.

You've spent more than us in the 14 months we've been down here

 

[Chris FGR]

Sheff Wed and Ipswich better be head and shoulders above most teams or we've got real problems.

Both sides look great in possession, maybe will struggle more against sides that press them higher up though?

 

[masi51]

For what its worth i think Shef Wed are the stand out team....Early doors on all the rest

 

[Tom_ITFC]

If either Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday don't go up via the autos it's got to be classed as failure. Their squads are far and away better than the rest of the league.

Ipswich seem to have owners that are happy to throw money around so whatever happens they will continue to be well backed. I'm not sure that is the case with Wednesday's owners. Barrie?

How much do you class as ‘throwing money around’?

 

[valefan16]

How much do you class as ‘throwing money around’?

A league one side spending £1 million on a full back is throwing money around to be fair!

 

[Tom_ITFC]

A league one side spending £1 million on a full back is throwing money around to be fair!

When you have money from selling players, would you not reinvest to get out the league?

 

[valefan16]

When you have money from selling players, would you not reinvest to get out the league?

Not saying it’s right or wrong, if you can afford to do it fair enough but it’s huge money for this level for a full back so the point is fair. As per most seasons the sides at the top will generally be the ones spending the most money (wages/fees) which I expect will see Wednesday and yourselves promoted.

It’s no different to the reason Man City will win Prem for instance.

 

[WhiteRussian]

How much do you class as ‘throwing money around’?

Whether you have made a profit or loss with your sales i expect pales into ignsignificance compared to your wage bill.

Look, if your owners are willing to splash the cash or whatever that's fine for you but the point still stands, you are blowing just about everyone else out of the water with your budget.

 

[UppaTowen_ITFC]

Whether you have made a profit or loss with your sales i expect pales into ignsignificance compared to your wage bill.

Look, if your owners are willing to splash the cash or whatever that's fine for you but the point still stands, you are blowing just about everyone else out of the water with your budget.

Our wages for the new players would be no bigger than the wages from the old players that we got rid of. If anything, it would be slightly less seeing as we’re in a lower division than when we signed most of the previous players that are being replaced.

It’s purely a case of us being a championship sized club getting over 20k fans a week and spending that revenue. We obviously spent it badly to have been relegated but we’re not spending more than we can afford and have at no point been in trouble with FFP. It’s not really our fault that there’s a lot more clubs in the league that don’t get big attendances than those that do. We just happen to be in the same league but that’s not really our problem.

 

[Tea Towel]

Ipswich seem to have owners that are happy to throw money around so whatever happens they will continue to be well backed. I'm not sure that is the case with Wednesday's owners. Barrie?

Chansiri’s clearly still putting money in and backing Moore to get the targets he wants but I’d like to think he wouldn’t make the same mistake twice in putting us in a shit or bust position.

Last time we signed too many players around 30 on massive wages like Boyd, Abdi, Fletcher, Hooper, Rhodes, David Jones etc. and while some of them were good, none of them had any resale value so all ended up leaving for nothing.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Far too early to tell. If there is one team that looks above everyone else it is Wednesday, but in five weeks the situation could be very different.

 

[Bartonyellow]

We have the saying - “spursy”
We could also have “Ipswichy” as they too spontaneous combust at the business end of the season.
I guess one year they will break out - maybe this year. Too early too say.

 

[nelsonpfc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564329637227991040

Obviously xg doesn't always equals results, but you can get a sense of performances. Teams go through a patch of being ultra clinical, but eventually that catches up and things level out.

 

[masi51]

Watched my team in all 4 leagues and in Europe......Listen and digest the Championship is a f.....g cash cow
players on inflated wages. you play teams who have 5 times the budget you have and players hold you to ransom.
Bolton are not ready yet for all that shite..............enjoy the ride

 

[UppaTowen_ITFC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1564329637227991040

Obviously xg doesn't always equals results, but you can get a sense of performances. Teams go through a patch of being ultra clinical, but eventually that catches up and things level out.

Not sure what to make of that. We’ve been the better side comfortably in all 6 games and should be 13th? I’m surprised tbh. Ive always liked Xg but not sure it works added up together. I suspect in all six games the Xg would show as a win for us but yet here when it’s combined as a total it shows us 13th?

Its vaguely interesting albeit very surprising because there’s no way whatsoever we should be bottom half on any metric.

 

[TractorBoys]

Automatic has to be the aim this season, I don't think any other side (besides perhaps Sheff Wed) have anywhere near the standard of our squad; and the five subs rule clearly plays into our hands with out depth. Our bench consists pretty much all of players who would start at other L1 sides, week in week out. We should be on 6 wins from 6 games, too.

McKenna is simply a huge asset, and tempting him away from Man Utd was key.

That said, it's League One. We won't have it all our own way.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

If they came with a soft drink, they could be a meal deal.

 

[masi51]

Automatic has to be the aim this season, I don't think any other side (besides perhaps Sheff Wed) have anywhere near the standard of our squad; and the five subs rule clearly plays into our hands with out depth. Our bench consists pretty much all of players who would start at other L1 sides, week in week out. We should be on 6 wins from 6 games, too.

McKenna is simply a huge asset, and tempting him away from Man Utd was key.

That said, it's League One. We won't have it all our own way.

Got to disagree. I think we more than matched you first game of the season and did the double over you last season. Our squad depth is easily as good as Ipswich yet i think there are 5/6 teams with a better 11 than us.
Early days yet once our forwards get there boots on we might actually hammer a team or two

 

[Tom_ITFC]

Got to disagree. I think we more than matched you first game of the season and did the double over you last season. Our squad depth is easily as good as Ipswich yet i think there are 5/6 teams with a better 11 than us.
Early days yet once our forwards get there boots on we might actually hammer a team or two

I’d say yes you matched us first half, if not bettered us, until we scored and then we dominated the rest of the half and second half.

Yes you did the double on us last season, but that was prior to and at the very start of the McKenna reign.

It is early days and I don’t want to get carried away, but since McKenna has been in we’ve been brilliant continuously and actually broken aging and frustrating records for amount of league game wins a row, club record for most minutes without conceding a goal last season (over 550 minutes) and an aging record of the amount of league attendances above 20k which is still increasing from the end of 2021.

Recently we would only be a boring mid table championship club with no reason to feel excited. In the last 20 years, we’ve had a couple of play off appearances, of which one was a loss to our rivals and we’re one of very few league clubs to still not visit the new Wembley.

The infrastructure of the club, stadium and training facilities were all falling apart and the owners and managers weren’t bothered by it. We’ve now got people who care.

So Town fans getting excited too early in the season might be dangerous, but I feels it’s understandable.

 

[K-Win]

I had Ipswich at 3rd this season behind Wednesday and Peterborough, purely because I wasn't sure they would score enough goals to get into the autos. That problem seems to have been solved though and I'd probably put them in the top two if predicting now.

Ipswich's xG is a bit weird. I think it shows that despite having most of the ball and territory they're not always the best at carving out big chances. However, when they do create the big chances, they score a high percentage of them. Having such a solid defence gives you a great advantage and generally means that just creating one good chance is enough.

 

[masi51]

I’d say yes you matched us first half, if not bettered us, until we scored and then we dominated the rest of the half and second half.

Yes you did the double on us last season, but that was prior to and at the very start of the McKenna reign.

It is early days and I don’t want to get carried away, but since McKenna has been in we’ve been brilliant continuously and actually broken aging and frustrating records for amount of league game wins a row, club record for most minutes without conceding a goal last season (over 550 minutes) and an aging record of the amount of league attendances above 20k which is still increasing from the end of 2021.

Recently we would only be a boring mid table championship club with no reason to feel excited. In the last 20 years, we’ve had a couple of play off appearances, of which one was a loss to our rivals and we’re one of very few league clubs to still not visit the new Wembley.

The infrastructure of the club, stadium and training facilities were all falling apart and the owners and managers weren’t bothered by it. We’ve now got people who care.

So Town fans getting excited too early in the season might be dangerous, but I feels it’s understandable.

I would agree with most if not all yo are saying but Guaranteed promotion is not on the agenda, yes you may go up but it will be a hard season ahead i think you are one of the ten or so in the mix no more than that.

 

[masi51]

Not saying it’s right or wrong, if you can afford to do it fair enough but it’s huge money for this level for a full back so the point is fair. As per most seasons the sides at the top will generally be the ones spending the most money (wages/fees) which I expect will see Wednesday and yourselves promoted.

It’s no different to the reason Man City will win Prem for instance.

Man city are spending nowhere near what Chelsea have spent

 

[Luke Imp]

It's almost unthinkable that Ipswich and Wednesday fail to go up their squads.

The Ipswich side looked decent enough under Lambert I think? But their problem was Lambert...

 

[Daviddcfc]

Thanks for all the replies ..


and big respect to Plymouth fans ... gutted with the result mind you ..

I think Ipswich look very very good


Then ??

Those Sheffield folk who only drink beers on a wednesday and Portsmouth


I diont think we will be top two .