Attacks in Paris + Belgium

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So basically the more Islamists you have in a country the more terrorist attacks you have, that's a FACT.

I wish our country had went the way of Poland, they have absolutely no extremist problem whatsoever and you know why? Because their country has always put their people first and have not let it get over run with immigrants bringing their dark age ideology with them.
The EU then said it was going to put sanctions on Poland for not letting in any of these immigrants, but after a protest by about 150,000 patriotic Poles, the Polish prime minister basically told the EU to go fuck themselves and he said that an immigrant problem would be far worse than having sanctions put on them.

They must be laughing at how stupid we are over here and how fucking soft we are.
 

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I wish our country had went the way of Poland, they have absolutely no extremist problem whatsoever and you know why?

Because the entire country is increasingly cowed and fearful of massive crowds of the extreme-right......?

Link here. And here. And here (in the Daily Mail, who were clearly stunned by the vitriole and aggression) I'm genuinely shocked that someone is seriously suggesting fascism as the answer.

You are aware that the right in Poland are against everything.....Islam, gays, abortion, divorce, human rights, Jews, communists, foreigners.... one day it would be you they would be coming after.

If there's anyone laughing, it's the jackals. I can't believe how people are suggesting that right-wing anarchy is an answer. I have numerous Polish friends, of different political shades including the right, who are horrified by what is going on in Poland.
 
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Because the entire country is increasingly cowed and fearful of massive crowds of the extreme-right......?
Link here. And here. And here (in the Daily Mail, who were clearly stunned by the vitriole and aggression) I'm genuinely shocked that someone is seriously suggesting fascism as the answer.

You are aware that the right in Poland are against everything.....Islam, gays, abortion, divorce, human rights, Jews, communists, foreigners.... one day it would be you they would be coming after.

If there's anyone laughing, it's the jackals. I can't believe how people are suggesting that right-wing anarchy is an answer. I have numerous Polish friends, of different political shades including the right, who are horrified by what is going on in Poland.

I'm just talking about their immigration policy, not the other stuff.
 

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I'm just talking about their immigration policy, not the other stuff.
I can't believe you actually wrote that. So mob rule is OK, then? You can ignore the mob attacks on small clusters of Jewish and Muslim communities? The attacks on clinics, on gays, on gypsies? You're a real fucking gem, you are.
 

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I can't believe you actually wrote that. So mob rule is OK, then? You can ignore the mob attacks on small clusters of Jewish and Muslim communities? The attacks on clinics, on gays, on gypsies? You're a real fucking gem, you are.

I didn't fucking say anything about approving mob rule and violent attacks on minorities, I condemn it. I just said we should of been like many other countries around the world and not let a backward fascist ideology with many extremist teachings to this day come over here and fuck us up. Poland is just an example of a nation with a good strong policy on immigration.

If we had done our homework on Islam way back whenever it was we foolishly decided to open our gates to it, then we would have realised how bad it actually is and we would not have this problem today and those people would not have been murdered.
 

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I didn't fucking say anything about approving mob rule and violent attacks on minorities, I condemn it. I just said we should of been like many other countries around the world and not let a backward fascist ideology with many extremist teachings to this day come over here and fuck us up. Poland is just an example of a nation with a good strong policy on immigration.
If we had done our homework on Islam way back whenever it was we foolishly decided to open our gates to it, then we would have realised how bad it actually is and we would not have this problem today and those people would not have been murdered.

You can't have some and not the other. You clearly support the ultra-right in Poland. You even boasted about them laughing at us.....
I find it quite funny that you use a fascist ideology (above) as a good way of dealing with a fascist ideology.

Out of interest, how should we have dealt with the IRA/INLA and all the loyalist paramilitaries who killed far more in Britain than Muslim extremists have(by a huge order of magnitude)?

While rationale suggests increasing intelligence budgets and staffing and, sadly, more monitoring of communications by the state, at least temporarily, your hostile, shrieking anti-Muslim tirade just plays absolutely into the hands of the terrorists. What you want is **precisely** what they want, al-Redfoxi.
 
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You can't have some and not the other. You clearly support the ultra-right in Poland. You even boasted about them laughing at us.....
I find it quite funny that you use a fascist ideology (above) as a good way of dealing with a fascist ideology.

Out of interest, how should we have dealt with the IRA/INLA and all the loyalist paramilitaries who killed far more in Britain than Muslim extremists have(by a huge order of magnitude)?

While rationale suggests increasing intelligence budgets and staffing and, sadly, more monitoring of communications by the state, at least temporarily, your hostile, shrieking anti-Muslim tirade just plays absolutely into the hands of the terrorists. What you want is **precisely** what they want, al-Redfoxi.

Yeah well the more and more these attacks happen the more and more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness, because it all comes down to survival in the end. Not worrying if something we do might be seen as racist or not.
 
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Yeah well the more and more these attacks happen the more and more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness, because it all comes down to survival in the end. Not worrying if something we do might be seen as racist or not.
Like in France or the Netherlands.
 

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Yeah well the more and more these attacks happen the more and more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness, because it all comes down to survival in the end. Not worrying if something we do might be seen as racist or not.

So tell me, which British political party was in power when the Good Friday agreement was signed that (largely) ended Republican and Loyalist terrorism and oversaw most of the decommissioning of terrorist weapons in Northern Ireland?

Just choose one of two words, if you don't understand the different political party names: Right. Or Left.
 
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Yeah well the more and more these attacks happen the more and more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness, because it all comes down to survival in the end. Not worrying if something we do might be seen as racist or not.

If the far-right are so tough, how come every time they attempt to mobilise they get the shit beaten out of them by virtue-signalling snowflake SJW vegan student hipsters?
 

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So tell me, which British political party was in power when the Good Friday agreement was signed that (largely) ended Republican and Loyalist terrorism and oversaw most of the decommissioning of terrorist weapons in Northern Ireland?

Just choose one of two words, if you don't understand the different political party names: Right. Or Left.

I don't know probably Labour going by the way you're acting so smug and know it all, but you see the IRA valued their own lives so they could be negotiated with, Islamic terrorism on the other hand can't be negotiated with because they are religious nutjobs who follow a dark age ideology that tells them to kill anyone that isn't Islamic, even if it means taking their own life in the process.

So how do you stop something like that? Well simply by FORCE, offering a flower or a hug is not going to fix it.

We have to go for them before they come for us.
 

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If the far-right are so tough, how come every time they attempt to mobilise they get the shit beaten out of them by virtue-signalling snowflake SJW vegan student hipsters?

No they don't beat the shit out of the 'right', all those 'lefty' sjw's are all wimps who wear masks and are really just little rich kids who have never been in a fight before. They will act all tough in a group vandalising innocent people's property, but as soon as they get punched in the face by a lone right wing guy, they start crying and call for the police.

The only weapon they have is their loud screechy irritating mouth.
 

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No they don't beat the shit out of the 'right', all those 'lefty' sjw's are all wimps who wear masks and are really just little rich kids who have never been in a fight before. They will act all tough in a group vandalising innocent people's property, but as soon as they get punched in the face by a lone right wing guy, they start crying and call for the police.

The only weapon they have is their loud screechy irritating mouth.
 

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If the far-right are so tough, how come every time they attempt to mobilise they get the shit beaten out of them by virtue-signalling snowflake SJW vegan student hipsters?
Don't forget the slightly fat, nearing middle age guys. We also like to beat the shit out of nazis.:ds:
 

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I don't know probably Labour going by the way you're acting so smug and know it all
Smug? Know it all? Even if you didn't know it, it took less than 8 seconds to Google. You said "more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness".
Clearly it was the 'left' who provided the resolution there.
Your problem is that you aren't old enough to remember IRA bombing and murder campaigns, loyalist paramilitary murders and others, many of whom were not muslim. We defeated it all by being 'smart'. Being 'tough' is what they want. They want a fight. They want your nastiness and your viciousness towards muslims. They feed on it and thrive on it.

...but you see the IRA valued their own lives so they could be negotiated with, Islamic terrorism on the other hand can't be negotiated with because they are religious nutjobs who follow a dark age ideology that tells them to kill anyone that isn't Islamic, even if it means taking their own life in the process.
That's not disputed.

So how do you stop something like that? Well simply by FORCE, offering a flower or a hug is not going to fix it.
Are you about 11 years old? Who on earth said "a flower or a hug" will fix the problem? Why is everything so staggeringly simplistic to you?
You seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that there is a spectrum of solutions. It's not simply fascism or hugs. There's stuff in between.

We have to go for them before they come for us.
See you then. I'll give you a lift to Heathrow. Oh wait! You mean **other** people should go for them! Oh right.
 

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No they don't beat the shit out of the 'right', all those 'lefty' sjw's are all wimps who wear masks and are really just little rich kids who have never been in a fight before. They will act all tough in a group vandalising innocent people's property, but as soon as they get punched in the face by a lone right wing guy, they start crying and call for the police.

The only weapon they have is their loud screechy irritating mouth.

Weird, to me it always appears to be the fascists who are reliant on police protection. Must have imagined that time you all ended up hiding in lost property at Lime Street...
 

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Smug? Know it all? Even if you didn't know it, it took less than 8 seconds to Google. You said "more people will turn to the 'right' looking for toughness".
Clearly it was the 'left' who provided the resolution there.
Your problem is that you aren't old enough to remember IRA bombing and murder campaigns, loyalist paramilitary murders and others, many of whom were not muslim. We defeated it all by being 'smart'. Being 'tough' is what they want. They want a fight. They want your nastiness and your viciousness towards muslims. They feed on it and thrive on it.


That's not disputed.


Are you about 11 years old? Who on earth said "a flower or a hug" will fix the problem? Why is everything so staggeringly simplistic to you?
You seem to be utterly incapable of understanding that there is a spectrum of solutions. It's not simply fascism or hugs. There's stuff in between.


See you then. I'll give you a lift to Heathrow. Oh wait! You mean **other** people should go for them! Oh right.

Would you stop with the insults please, let our ideals be pit against each other but do not rob me of my dignity by asking me disrespectful questions like am I an 11 year old? and that I'm utterly incapable of understanding things.

Now as for terrorists thriving on violence, how exactly will they thrive on it if we have wiped them all out?
 

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Weird, to me it always appears to be the fascists who are reliant on police protection. Must have imagined that time you all ended up hiding in lost property at Lime Street...

I remember once there being this big 'right wing' guy who just pounded his way right through a whole mob of them and while he was doing it he felt bad because he could tell they had never been in a fight before.
 

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Would you stop with the insults please, let our ideals be pit against each other but do not rob me of my dignity by asking me disrespectful questions like am I an 11 year old? and that I'm utterly incapable of understanding things.

Now as for terrorists thriving on violence, how exactly will they thrive on it if we have wiped them all out?

Wiping them all out has been going well for the last 15 years or so I guess? How do you propose we do this?
 

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