Stickied Championship - Away Support Thread 2024/25

[HertsWolf]

Think he's referring to the 'Football Rivalries Report 2008'. The actual report no longer exists (as far as I can see) but a quick google search reveals:


Pretty sure everyone agreed at the time that this list was spot on...

Not sure what the scale is for measuring football rivalry, tbh.
Can you scientifically measure degrees of bile?
Did they film lads muttering "Yeh, I fuckin' hate 'em! Fuckin' Romans! Wankers!" and then compare how hard they looked?

That list will have a lot of people ranting. No mention of Arsenal and Spurs? Liverpool and Everton? West Ham and Millwall? Millwall and the Metropolitan Police? Harry Redknapp and the Inland Revenue? Ely City and Histon?

 

[Munkiki]

Haha, they surveyed 6,000 fans. "The ‘Football Rivalries Report 2008’, produced by The New Football Pools, owners of Littlewoods, combines an indepth survey of all 92 league clubs in England and Wales and a statistical analysis of club records and histories, to uncover the reasons why fans harbour such bitterness and jealousy towards each other." You just can't argue with the findings, it's pretty conclusive stuff.

btw Arsenal/Spurs 17th. Liverpool/Everton 19th. West Ham/Millwall 27th.

Spoiler: Clicky click click

1. West Bromwich Albion & Wolves
Even though both Villa Park and St Andrew's are close to the Hawthorns, West Bromwich still look a dozen miles north to Wolves as the subjects of their reciprocated dislike. It's been going on for 122 years, and reached its zenith last season when the two teams met five times in various competitions.
2. Ipswich Town & Norwich City
They call it the Old Farm Derby. Though East Anglia wouldn't be considered one of football's hotbeds, the rivalry between Ipswich and Norwich is fierce, intense and long-standing. The fact they are out on a limb geographically, and have played each other with remarkable frequency over the years, are major factors.
3. Liverpool & Manchester United
Both have same-city rivals, but Liverpool and United consider the one separated by the East Lancs Road as much bigger. Some say it's because they regularly competed for the same trophies; others that it is down to the culture of the two cities, whether in sport, the arts or music.
4. Portsmouth & Southampton
Harry Redknapp's oscillation between the two clubs polarised the intensity of the rivalry. But it has always been there: they have long called each other ‘Scummers'. It probably dates back to sea-faring days: Portsmouth being the home of the Royal Navy, Southampton the home of the Merchant Navy.
5. Cardiff City & Swansea City
The two cities are neighbours on the south Wales coast, and their rivalry is deeply embedded both culturally and in sporting terms. Though the teams haven't met for eight years, the enmity hasn't decreased: Swansea players unfurled an anti-Cardiff banner after winning the 2006 Football League Trophy at the Millennium Stadium.

6. Aston Villa & Birmingham
7. Sheffield United & Sheffield Wednesday
8. Bristol Rovers & Bristol City
9. Newcastle & Sunderland
10. Brighton & Crystal Palace
11. Derby & Nottingham Forest
12. Blackpool & Preston
13. Darlington & Hartlepool
14. Luton & Watford
15. Blackburn & Burnley
16. Port Vale & Stoke
17. Arsenal & Tottenham
18. Grimsby & Scunthorpe
19. Everton & Liverpool
20. Leeds & Man United
21. Chester & Wrexham
22. Chesterfield & Mansfield
23. Northampton & Peterborough
24. Bury & Rochdale
25. Man City & Man United
26. Coventry & Leicester
27. Millwall & West Ham
28. Accrington Stanley & Morecambe
29. Colchester & Southend
30. Macclesfield & Stockport

 

[Cardsfan]

West Ham and Millwall is a very similar rivalry to Accrington and Morecambe

 

[Rammy]

1,374 allocation at Bournemouth sold out.
2,608 allocation at Rotherham sold out.

Both Tuesday night games. Tomorrows allocation of around 2,000 at Cardiff hasn't. Odd.

 

[Kilburn Ram]

Tomorrows allocation of around 2,000 at Cardiff hasn't. Odd.

It's nearly sold out. 1,750 sold by Wednesday I gather.
Not too shabby considering all the extra cup matches and two more away games in a week next month too. Fulham on the 28 Feb just gone on sale too. My wallet can't handle this pummelling at the moment!

 

[You Orns]

Haha, they surveyed 6,000 fans. "The ‘Football Rivalries Report 2008’, produced by The New Football Pools, owners of Littlewoods, combines an indepth survey of all 92 league clubs in England and Wales and a statistical analysis of club records and histories, to uncover the reasons why fans harbour such bitterness and jealousy towards each other." You just can't argue with the findings, it's pretty conclusive stuff.

btw Arsenal/Spurs 17th. Liverpool/Everton 19th. West Ham/Millwall 27th.

Spoiler: Clicky click click

1. West Bromwich Albion & Wolves
Even though both Villa Park and St Andrew's are close to the Hawthorns, West Bromwich still look a dozen miles north to Wolves as the subjects of their reciprocated dislike. It's been going on for 122 years, and reached its zenith last season when the two teams met five times in various competitions.
2. Ipswich Town & Norwich City
They call it the Old Farm Derby. Though East Anglia wouldn't be considered one of football's hotbeds, the rivalry between Ipswich and Norwich is fierce, intense and long-standing. The fact they are out on a limb geographically, and have played each other with remarkable frequency over the years, are major factors.
3. Liverpool & Manchester United
Both have same-city rivals, but Liverpool and United consider the one separated by the East Lancs Road as much bigger. Some say it's because they regularly competed for the same trophies; others that it is down to the culture of the two cities, whether in sport, the arts or music.
4. Portsmouth & Southampton
Harry Redknapp's oscillation between the two clubs polarised the intensity of the rivalry. But it has always been there: they have long called each other ‘Scummers'. It probably dates back to sea-faring days: Portsmouth being the home of the Royal Navy, Southampton the home of the Merchant Navy.
5. Cardiff City & Swansea City
The two cities are neighbours on the south Wales coast, and their rivalry is deeply embedded both culturally and in sporting terms. Though the teams haven't met for eight years, the enmity hasn't decreased: Swansea players unfurled an anti-Cardiff banner after winning the 2006 Football League Trophy at the Millennium Stadium.

6. Aston Villa & Birmingham
7. Sheffield United & Sheffield Wednesday
8. Bristol Rovers & Bristol City
9. Newcastle & Sunderland
10. Brighton & Crystal Palace
11. Derby & Nottingham Forest
12. Blackpool & Preston
13. Darlington & Hartlepool
14. Luton & Watford
15. Blackburn & Burnley
16. Port Vale & Stoke
17. Arsenal & Tottenham
18. Grimsby & Scunthorpe
19. Everton & Liverpool
20. Leeds & Man United
21. Chester & Wrexham
22. Chesterfield & Mansfield
23. Northampton & Peterborough
24. Bury & Rochdale
25. Man City & Man United
26. Coventry & Leicester
27. Millwall & West Ham
28. Accrington Stanley & Morecambe
29. Colchester & Southend
30. Macclesfield & Stockport

I love that survey it's a compliment and insult at the same time,
Watford/Luton is bigger than Arsenal/Tottenham but smaller than Hartlepool/Darlington
You really can't make it up.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

1,374 allocation at Bournemouth sold out.
2,608 allocation at Rotherham sold out.

Both Tuesday night games. Tomorrows allocation of around 2,000 at Cardiff hasn't. Odd.

Yep the Derby game sold out all areas the other day. Another massive game, this top end of the Championship lark is relentless!

 

[Bobbin']

783 from Rotherham

 

[Veggie Legs]

225 Wigan fans at Ipswich.

 

[Rammy]

2,200 Derby at Cardiff

 

[Tom_ITFC]

225 Wigan fans at Ipswich.

Made more noise than the 19000 others

 

[Josesemedosjockstrap]

2,200 Derby at Cardiff

2125

 

[Josesemedosjockstrap]

2284 Wulfs
2392 Wednesday
2602 Norwich
1662 Boro
682 Millwall
1391 Watford

 

[blademan89]

2284 Wulfs
2392 Wednesday
2602 Norwich
1662 Boro
682 Millwall
1391 Bournemouth

2400 to reading 1700 to blackburn you are a strange bunch

 

[Josesemedosjockstrap]

Help please

Missing figures for

Norwich v Brentford
Norwich v Huddersfield
Norwich v Reading
Norwich v Millwall
Norwich v Cardiff
Wolves v Charlton
Wolves v Blackpool
Birmingham v Wigan
Blackpool v Millwall
Blackpool v Brighton
Huddersfield v Leeds
Blackburn v Fulham

 

[Munkiki]

Apart from Brentford, I posted those last week when you asked...

Norwich v Huddersfield - 579
Norwich v Reading - 507
Norwich v Millwall - 602
Norwich v Cardiff - 424

 

[Josesemedosjockstrap]

Apart from Brentford, I posted those last week when you asked...

Sorry bud didn't see them.

Appreciate that.

 

[HertsWolf]

Help please

Missing figures for

Wolves v Charlton

Is that including the ones who died of boredom during the match?

 

[HertsWolf]

Haha, they surveyed 6,000 fans. "The ‘Football Rivalries Report 2008’, produced by The New Football Pools, owners of Littlewoods, combines an indepth survey of all 92 league clubs in England and Wales and a statistical analysis of club records and histories, to uncover the reasons why fans harbour such bitterness and jealousy towards each other." You just can't argue with the findings, it's pretty conclusive stuff.

4. Portsmouth & Southampton
Harry Redknapp's oscillation between the two clubs polarised the intensity of the rivalry. But it has always been there: they have long called each other ‘Scummers'. It probably dates back to sea-faring days: Portsmouth being the home of the Royal Navy, Southampton the home of the Merchant Navy.

Except they don't. Portsmouth call Saints fans (and pretty much anyone west of Fareham) 'scummers'. But Southampton fans call Pompey fans (and pretty much anyone east of Hedge End) 'skates'. It's also a recent thing. Many people remember good relationships as recently as the 80s. But you don't see people wearing colours much in Fareham now.

It doesn't matter how big a survey is. If it is unstructured, unstratified and unrepresentative, it'll produce a lot of crap. As it has. You can't quantify rivalry. There is no consistent, meaningful scale.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Saints/Pompey is an interesting one. The two cities are slowly merging together with all the satellite towns becoming out of town shopping or office centres with people moving out to them from the main cities.

Eastleigh, Hedge End, Whitely, Port Solent, Fareham, Cosham, Waterloovile, Havant etc. There used to be a definite line on the map you could draw between Southampton and Portsmouth - not so much these days.

 

[Munkiki]

It doesn't matter how big a survey is. If it is unstructured, unstratified and unrepresentative, it'll produce a lot of crap. As it has. You can't quantify rivalry. There is no consistent, meaningful scale.

I know, I wasn't being serious. Surprised that you, of all people, didn't pick up on that.

 

[HertsWolf]

I know, I wasn't being serious. Surprised that you, of all people, didn't pick up on that.

Ummm, yes. I think the comment on Harry Redknapp's dog might have given the game away how serious I was. I just happened to notice the Pompey Saints things yesterday.

 

[Haddock]

What's the lowest away crowd of the season? We may beat it this weekend..

 

[Veggie Legs]

225 Wigan fans at Portman Road last weekend must be among the lowest, I'm sure Jose will have the actual number though.

 

[Josesemedosjockstrap]

149 Cardiff at Boro the other week, narrowly surpassing the 161 Wigan at Brighton

 

[Bobbin']

Think we'll beat that, just.

 

[Haddock]

Yeah think we've sold about 150 already. I'm going. I have no life

 

[Bobbin']

FairPlay. Been to Boro a handful of times, always been cold and miserable and never come back with 3 points, oh and one was a midweek Fa cup quarter final replay which we also lost.

Add that to the fact we are going to get an absolute tonking, I'm staying local to watch my bets lose in the pub.

 

[Haddock]

Wish I was doing the same mate. Heard BV were offering 10/1 on us to win. Not sure how true that is but about right.

 

[Tom_ITFC]

Around 1700 town fans going up to Rotherham tomorrow and nearly 4000 sold for the fulham game on the 14th