Chesterfield 3-1 Notts (Sunday/Sky) feat. Mansfield fans

[Spanishstag]

Another 98th minute penalty nolan seems fairly calm today though nutts clownty the gift that just keeps giving can see one or both of us missing out on the play,offs ,hopefully nutts

 

[Vanni]

After watching my lot play Chesterfield twice this season, I have always said they were good going forward but needed to sort out their back line. TBF, I thought they did just that today, barring that Notts goal from a freekick of course, but I don't think any blame could be attributed to their defenders for that one as they were more interested in marking Ameobi and I don't blame them as he nearly got a touch to the ball.

Re. Notts, I do see now that some of Nolan's critics weren't being too harsh on him, and their complaints are entirely justified as it really does seem like he hasn't got a plan B for when things aren't going their way. I've watched them three times this year and they didn't impress me at all but still that's not enough for me to rule them out of the running. IMHO Luton, Wycombe, Coventry and Mansfield are stronger sides, and I would have Notts on a par with Lincoln and Swindon. I can't really comment on Exeter as we played them back in August so a lot must have changed since then. But being a good footballing side like Luton and Coventry undoubtedly are means sweet FA in this league so the race's still on afaic.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Save the shame Adam for your managerial switch

Evans for Flitcroft

Shameful?

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Another 98th minute penalty nolan seems fairly calm today though nutts clownty the gift that just keeps giving can see one or both of us missing out on the play,offs ,hopefully nutts

Don’t forget to give Flitcroft time Bargain Stag Abroad, 4 games in, zero wins.

Literally a managerial handbrake applied to the ever so promising league campaign for Mansfield.

Impressive stuff after Fattyfat Boys impressive record since Xmas

 

[Vanni]

Just let it go Viking. Fat Boy's managing the pish now!

 

[CFC91]

Massive result for us that. Onto Friday now and what looks to be a massive game

 

[AdamStag]

Just let it go Viking. Fat Boy's managing the pish now!

It's painful. Lol.

I think said person crititsed me for posting on this thread being a Mansfield fan but then goes on that rant about us. It's proper cringe. Desperate stuff.

As I said last week when we scored a deserved leveller at the death, Nolan has no plan b and struggles with the pressure. Like I said earlier today, it's like the great Nottinghamshire choke, were as bad as each other.

 

[mowgli]

This is a massive result for the top 3.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Yes you had a go at me for posting on the Notts vs Mansfield match thread and the L2 away attendance thread. Shocking behaviour

Just over 24 hours ago you were concentrating the blame on the players not DF, and a defeat at FGR and now DF is and has been a disaster. Pick a story pal and stick to it lol

I will agree we’re both not very good, but we’ve never been the bookies favourites or close tbh. We’ve been higher in the league basically all season but we’ve never been convincing Even when 1st and 2nd as many a Notts fan said on here.
Apart from both stuttering along we aren’t that similar, we haven’t got David Flitcroft in charge for a start. And then there’s differing histories but that’s for another thread

 

[jacobncfc]

Absolutely dreadful from us, probably the worst we've played since Nolan took over. Props to Chesterfield though - I thought they were excellent and were about as good as i've seen an opposition team play this season.

The Plan B thing with Notts is absolutely true and it's why there's such a disparity between our home and away form. At home we naturally get on the front foot, Ameobi and Stead are winning the ball on the edge of the opposition area and we look dangerous, away from home teams just push up and we have no one capable of running in behind, with Ameobi and Stead being no threat at all if they're getting the ball 40 yards from goal.

It's not totally Nolan's fault - we signed Mason Bennett in January as our different option but he got a season ending injury after just a couple of really promising games. What is his fault is the petty fallout he seems to have had with Forte who, whilst hardly a world beater, at least offers a different option.

I'm not hugely surprised we lost today to be honest, we've been pretty poor against bottom half teams away from home all season. The flip side is that our record against the top ten or so is good and our next three are Wycombe, Accrington and Coventry, so you never know.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Far too much criticism of Nolan recently , undeserved imo

 

[Spanishstag]

Far too much criticism of Nolan recently , undeserved imo

Vikring mugpie you were very critical of evans ,i would suggest nutts have got a moaning scouser who behaves very poorly when they lose ,add to that big al and you can see why people laugh at nutts clownty

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Vikring mugpie you were very critical of evans ,i would suggest nutts have got a moaning scouser who behaves very poorly when they lose ,add to that big al and you can see why people laugh at nutts clownty

What are you on about?
Are you seriously comparing Kevin Nolan to Steve Evans?

And as for Big Al, aka Alan Hardy? What about him? Is he a bad chairman? What are you suggesting?

People? Who are laughing at Notts County? Mansfailed Town fans?

 

[T.A]

Yes you had a go at me for posting on the Notts vs Mansfield match thread and the L2 away attendance thread. Shocking behaviour

Just over 24 hours ago you were concentrating the blame on the players not DF, and a defeat at FGR and now DF is and has been a disaster. Pick a story pal and stick to it lol

I will agree we’re both not very good, but we’ve never been the bookies favourites or close tbh. We’ve been higher in the league basically all season but we’ve never been convincing Even when 1st and 2nd as many a Notts fan said on here.
Apart from both stuttering along we aren’t that similar, we haven’t got David Flitcroft in charge for a start. And then there’s differing histories but that’s for another thread

Why does it matter if you were the bookies favorites or not at the start of the season?

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Why does it matter if you were the bookies favorites or not at the start of the season?

Simple T.A. Because a certain person keeps stating that NCFC have choked because of the decline from 1/2 to 4/5th in league since New Years . Even though no Notts fans expected Top 3 this season, especially after the pre season lacklustre permanent signings, basically same starting XI as last season albeit an impressive period under Nolan’s stewardship.

Even when doing really well, we’ve never been convincing , we just seemed to do the basics well and came out on the right side of lots of close games in 2017. In 2018 that hasn’t been the case.

That’s it! We were never considered Likely automatic promotion candidates by Notts fans nor the independent bookmakers.
It’s a very good season to be in the mix all season, yet the deluded fountain of knowledge can’t grasp that concept.

Mansfield and Luton were pre season favourites based on impressive signings, talented squads etc.

Luton have matched the Bookies confidence

Hope that explains it for you

 

[Optipez]

Deservedly tonked.
I actually feel for the players, they've done their level best all season but just aren't good enough collectively to be top three, probably not top seven.
We were worryingly bad pre season and then Yates and Grant signed towards the end of it and we improved. Losing Yates has been massive for us, we're left with a middling Div 2 team, no squad depth and probably only a couple of players who could do a job in League 1.
I've seen us promoted twice from this division, and this lot are nowhere near either team collectively.
Looking at the age and physical shape of the squad it's going to be a massive re-build in the summer.
Nolan has done well with what he's got but has had a poor transfer window signing three centre midfielders and a crock of a striker when that's not the balance of players we needed.
Fourth top with seven to go shouldn't be a time to lose heart but it's felt like a long slow slide since Christmas that we don't have the wherewithal to pull round.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Good post Optipez, agree with a lot of that.
There has been an overreaction (negative) Against the manager in recent times which when you step back and look over the past 12 months is very harsh imo.

Regardless what happens at end to this season , a first choice forward line of near dinosaur age with very little of anything behind it , is our biggest concern no doubt

 

[Red]

Nailed on Notts win this. The Direites struggle against the more physical and direct sides recently. Would prefer a draw though.

 

[CFC91]

Our record against the current top 7 at home so far.

P5 W3 D1 L1

Wycombe and Mansfield left to come. Sounds like our best hope of staying up is beating you guys..

 

[Richard Cranium]

You’ll beat us.

 

[Wooderson]

Vikring mugpie you were very critical of evans ,i would suggest nutts have got a moaning scouser who behaves very poorly when they lose ,add to that big al and you can see why people laugh at nutts clownty

As opposed to Mansfield, who provide no mirth at all

Anyway, the game, congratulations to Chesterfield, showed everything we lacked - skill, guile, effort, desire, tactics, pace - play like that and you'll overhaul Grimsby no problem.

The only consolation is that on that evidence we will still be in L2 next season, and our sheer incompetence yesterday may have helped secure another local game.

 

[Luke Imp]

I said it when we played them a few weeks ago, but the lack of pace in that Notts side is startling.

It looked like they were standing off Chesterfield and allowing them to play but they just didn't have the legs to press well enough. That will have played a part in making Chesterfield look good, but even taking that into account it wasn't a performance of a bottom two side.

And when you're front two are Stead and Ameobi, you can afford push higher up the pitch and keep them away from the 18 yard box when the danger is then flick-ons, particularly when there's no pace from the wings to run in behind and exploit the high line either.

 

[jacobncfc]

I said it when we played them a few weeks ago, but the lack of pace in that Notts side is startling.

It looked like they were standing off Chesterfield and allowing them to play but they just didn't have the legs to press well enough. That will have played a part in making Chesterfield look good, but even taking that into account it wasn't a performance of a bottom two side.

And when you're front two are Stead and Ameobi, you can afford push higher up the pitch and keep them away from the 18 yard box when the danger is then flick-ons, particularly when there's no pace from the wings to run in behind and exploit the high line either.

Yup, this is exactly it. The one big criticism of Nolan that I have is that he signed three central midfielders in January rather than properly addressing the chronic lack of pace out wide and upfront. He was unlucky with Bennett getting injured, but it was ridiculous that we were only signing someone for that role on deadline day, it should’ve been sorted within the first few days.

We’re a bit lucky that teams are still afraid of our home record and naturally sit deep at ML because of it - the way to get at us is to press high up the pitch.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

Only seen a handful of games this season but we have looked pretty decent pretty much every time I've watched us.

No way should we be down there but I'm more hopeful than I was that we can get out of it. Surely we are better than Grimsby?

 

[LongEatonPie]

It’s kind of strange that we don’t have a plan B as when I was watching Sky put up a stat showing we score more goals than any other team in England from substitutes!

I think the plan was to have more midfielders to be able to play through the middle but none of those brought in can do that style. Yates could have.

 

[Wooderson]

I said it when we played them a few weeks ago, but the lack of pace in that Notts side is startling.

It looked like they were standing off Chesterfield and allowing them to play but they just didn't have the legs to press well enough. That will have played a part in making Chesterfield look good, but even taking that into account it wasn't a performance of a bottom two side.

And when you're front two are Stead and Ameobi, you can afford push higher up the pitch and keep them away from the 18 yard box when the danger is then flick-ons, particularly when there's no pace from the wings to run in behind and exploit the high line either.

We only have two players with any sort of pace: Forte and Dan Jones. As mentioned above, KN just will not start Forte no matter what (I'm wondering if there is some sort of appearance-related contract thing going on), but I'm hoping Jones will finally regain his place over Dickinson on Friday, given his goalscoring cameo off the bench at Chesterfield.

 

[Spanishstag]

What are you on about?
Are you seriously comparing Kevin Nolan to Steve Evans?

And as for Big Al, aka Alan Hardy? What about him? Is he a bad chairman? What are you suggesting?

People? Who are laughing at Notts County? Mansfailed Town fans?

Yes how dare i compare evans with nolan ,when nolans done fuck all

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Yes how dare i compare evans with nolan ,when nolans done fuck all

I’m lost?! Are we talking taking financial irregularities or convicted criminal status?


I’m gonna suggest you aren’t the brightest amongst the Stags contingent on here

 

[Spanishstag]

I’m lost?! Are we talking taking financial irregularities or convicted criminal status?

No promotions simple

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

With Mansfield? You know, your club?
Just plain bizarre how some of you celebrate what your manager now ex-manager did elsewhere.