Ghosts

[sl1k]

Silkz was you like bummed by a holy man or saink

 

[silkyman]

No. Never spent any time around them. They just have fuck all evidence.

We've been through this elsewhere.

 

[johnnytodd]

I used to work nights in an older people's ward in a fairly decrepit hospital that used to be a workhouse. Plenty of scope for ghostly sightings you'd think, but I'm afraid I never had a sniff.

Mice, a window smashed with a hammer (it landed on the carpet), a firework slotted through an open window in the bathroom and exploding in the toilet bowl, the occasional old fella walking round naked, lots of shouting, but no ghosts. A lot of my colleagues reckoned they'd seen them over the years.

Did he have ginger hair?

 

[TheMinsterman]

Paranormal phenomena is a thing, experienced plenty. The vast majority of what TV or paranormal groups put forward as evidence is easily explainable and most use assumption-lead techniques anyway.

People 100% experience and see things, the difference is that doesn't automatically equate to ghosts, there could be environmental and internal bodily factors people conveniently ignore. There's absolutely no evidence ghosts exist that can be considered concrete.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Did he have ginger hair?

Why? Did you escape from your room when eightiesrobin worked nights?

 

[Alty]

Paranormal phenomena is a thing, experienced plenty. The vast majority of what TV or paranormal groups put forward as evidence is easily explainable and most use assumption-lead techniques anyway.

People 100% experience and see things, the difference is that doesn't automatically equate to ghosts, there could be environmental and internal bodily factors people conveniently ignore. There's absolutely no evidence ghosts exist that can be considered concrete.

I was wondering where your contribution to this thread was You used to be a true believer, didn't you? Or am I overstating it?

 

[TheMinsterman]

I was wondering where your contribution to this thread was You used to be a true believer, didn't you? Or am I overstating it?

Kind of .

In simple terms, I neither believe nor disbelieve in "spirits", I'm probably harsher on "paranormal investigators" than people who think it's all nonsense which doesn't make me hugely popular . It's an interesting field of "study", I've experienced some legitimately bizarre things which despite my best efforts I can't currently explain (for example, we had a door lock at work, which sounds easily explainable until you realise only me and my colleague have keys in the building), I've "seen" what people would describe as a ghost, yet most groups don't look for "evidence". They look for whatever confirms their world views and use experiments, a term that is stretched to its limits frankly, that completely rely on assumption (Ouija boards... which they assume "spirits" can use to talk to you, of course if they're not English they have some sort of psychic translator guide... I wish I was making that up).

Put it his way, people aren't as keen on the paranormal investigator who want's to actually explain what's happening, even venues really want you to just say "it's a ghost!", which considering how much some places charge I don't blame them! (seriously, some will charge £1500 for a few hours it's insanity)

 

[blade1889]

excuse my whilst I just change career aspirations to haunted house owner

 

[TheMinsterman]

Just make sure there were some "brutal murders" and maybe some sort of satanic rituals on the property "according to previous owners" and you'll be on your way...

 

[Alty]

Kind of .

In simple terms, I neither believe nor disbelieve in "spirits", I'm probably harsher on "paranormal investigators" than people who think it's all nonsense which doesn't make me hugely popular . It's an interesting field of "study", I've experienced some legitimately bizarre things which despite my best efforts I can't currently explain (for example, we had a door lock at work, which sounds easily explainable until you realise only me and my colleague have keys in the building), I've "seen" what people would describe as a ghost, yet most groups don't look for "evidence". They look for whatever confirms their world views and use experiments, a term that is stretched to its limits frankly, that completely rely on assumption (Ouija boards... which they assume "spirits" can use to talk to you, of course if they're not English they have some sort of psychic translator guide... I wish I was making that up).

Put it his way, people aren't as keen on the paranormal investigator who want's to actually explain what's happening, even venues really want you to just say "it's a ghost!", which considering how much some places charge I don't blame them! (seriously, some will charge £1500 for a few hours it's insanity)

That was a bit of an inverted commas fest!

What was the ghost experience? You weren't under extreme stress or taking anything at the time, i.e. you're not satisfied with just writing it off as hallucination?

 

[TheMinsterman]

That was a bit of an inverted commas fest!

What was the ghost experience? You weren't under extreme stress or taking anything at the time, i.e. you're not satisfied with just writing it off as hallucination?

When I saw a ghost? I've wrote it off as some sort of hallucination, I can't quite put a causal factor on it as I was in good health at the time and relaxed but to me, some sort of hallucination as a result of waking in the middle of the night seems more viable than the "disembodied spirit of a dead person." I took it more as evidence for myself that ok, people do legitimately see things, I think if people were more open to hallucinations not automatically = insanity, drugs, alcohol etc they'd perhaps be less inclined to find a supernatural reason behind it.

 

[johnnytodd]

people who don't believe in ghosts are just jealous of people who have seen them imvo

 

[JimJams]

Who have believe?

 

[Abertawe]

Never seen a ghost.

 

[SALTIRE]

I'm back watching Carl and Stuart on Most Haunted throw things around again. Its a load of pish, but a guilty pleasure when I'm in the mood of it!

 

[TheMinsterman]

I'm back watching Carl and Stuart on Most Haunted throw things around again. Its a load of pish, but a guilty pleasure when I'm in the mood of it!

We had them where I work, it was a bit surreal sitting at my desk looking after Most Haunted!

 

[SALTIRE]

We had them where I work, it was a bit surreal sitting at my desk looking after Most Haunted!

Bet you the scariest thing you saw that day was Stuart, imagine bumping into him in the dark!

 

[TheMinsterman]

Bet you the scariest thing you saw that day was Stuart, imagine bumping into him in the dark!

I had to take them down to a dark cellar so I'm surprised I wasn't possessed by Satan or whatever else usually happens . We've had Derek Acorah too, think I've had the full gambit of well known TV ghost folk! Just need Zak Bagans to complete the set.

 

[SALTIRE]

I had to take them down to a dark cellar so I'm surprised I wasn't possessed by Satan or whatever else usually happens . We've had Derek Acorah too, think I've had the full gambit of well known TV ghost folk! Just need Zak Bagans to complete the set.

Haha good old Derek, gotta love him; 'Mary loves Dick!'