Grimsby 0 Covid 19

[Albru17]

Appreciate we don't know all the ins and outs, but not to test the squad (or at least not to mention that they have) and letting a loan player return to the squad bubble apparently before he is tested, sounds strange. I also can't see why a training ground is closed for 2 weeks, when we are advised that the virus is unlikely to survive on surfaces for more than a day or two, and it only takes a day for professional cleaners to deep clean a facility.

 

[dedwardp]

Unless the overall motive is to avoid playing the season altogether as alluded to above, I can't see how else this is in Grimsby's favour at all - they've already hindered themselves with an almost non-existent pre-season so another fortnight off is the last thing they're going to need to get up to speed.

 

[BlackHaddock]

I have no answers and I may be flogging a dead horse but I don't understand why we appear to be self destructing and leaving ourselves open to all the speculation.

 

[valefan16]

Grimsby have covered themselves with Covid Clauses in their contracts too so unsure why so desperate to kill the season if this was the case? Surely some funding from the PL or Gov will be sorted sooner or later.

 

[Bottega Don]

Unless the overall motive is to avoid playing the season altogether as alluded to above, I can't see how else this is in Grimsby's favour at all - they've already hindered themselves with an almost non-existent pre-season so another fortnight off is the last thing they're going to need to get up to speed.

That's exactly it. They've had no pre-season and barely signed anyone. Their chairman has said he wants the season to be canceled. He's trying to force the EFL's hand.

 

[Luke Imp]

Last I read he said suspended rather than cancelled, unless he's said something else very recently.

 

[valefan16]

That's exactly it. They've had no pre-season and barely signed anyone. Their chairman has said he wants the season to be canceled. He's trying to force the EFL's hand.

Surely ending the season early risks financial penalties from sponsors/TV Contracts and so on?

Most clubs I imagine dont have covid clauses like Grimsby so would still see most clubs saddled with wages of their squads plus likely season ticket refunds with no ifollow to keep them getting value.

 

[Bottega Don]

Last I read he said suspended rather than cancelled, unless he's said something else very recently.

Yeah, you're correct, he did say suspended rather than canceled. My mistake.

 

[Son of Cod]

Absolute farce if we're docked points for following government guidelines. Once again Grimsby proving to be one of the few teams in the division taking this pandemic seriously.

Oh and Bottega Don and F-I-R-T-H-Y, we've signed about 12 players so it's not a case of not being able to "forefil" our fixtures.

How do we pay for testing, by the way? Are there private companies that are willing to go round to all of our squad and staff members' houses? Genuinely not sure if there are or not. As far as I'm aware, the postal swab tests are pretty much impossible to get hold of right now? If the players leave their houses they risk fines of up to £10k. It's probably an alien concept for a lot of fans in this division, who support clubs that are spunking obscene amounts of money they don't have on wages but we don't really want to run the risk of about £400k worth of fines.

 

[pontoonlew]

That's exactly it. They've had no pre-season and barely signed anyone. Their chairman has said he wants the season to be canceled. He's trying to force the EFL's hand.

I’m of the opinion that we’re playing silly bollocks here but this comment is off. Firstly, we’ve signed about 10 players and signed another on Saturday.

We haven’t had a pre season, correct, so that’d be the last reason we’d choose to take 2 weeks off isn’t it?

Day seems to make mistake after mistake but gets away with it because he’s a nice bloke and speaks to the media all the time. However one way or another, he’s messed up here and for once it doesn’t seem to be the fault of the EFL

 

[Bottega Don]

I’m of the opinion that we’re playing silly bollocks here but this comment is off. Firstly, we’ve signed about 10 players and signed another on Saturday.

We haven’t had a pre season, correct, so that’d be the last reason we’d choose to take 2 weeks off isn’t it?

Day seems to make mistake after mistake but gets away with it because he’s a nice bloke and speaks to the media all the time. However one way or another, he’s messed up here and for once it doesn’t seem to be the fault of the EFL

Well you've signed players very recently and clearly weren't ready for the start of the season, hence your poor results.

Deciding to call your own games off and then seeing what the EFL says seems to be risky business. Why can't Grimsby just do what every other club does when they have a positive test.

 

[BlackHaddock]

We have put the safety of our players, staff and their families (plus those of other clubs) first and everyone is slating us, even our own fans. Let's just see the whole picture and facts before writing us off as the 'Bad Guys'.

 

[LS Bantam]

We have put the safety of our players, staff and their families (plus those of other clubs) first and everyone is slating us, even our own fans. Let's just see the whole picture and facts before writing us off as the 'Bad Guys'.

£3.5k to definitively know who does and doesn’t have it and no reason therefore not to play (as Stevenage proved)?

 

[Son of Cod]

£3.5k to definitively know who does and doesn’t have it and no reason therefore not to play (as Stevenage proved)?

Where's this £3.5k figure coming from?

 

[Albru17]

The cost Stevenage quoted for 24 hour tests for all players and staff.

 

[valefan16]

Where's this £3.5k figure coming from?

Stevenage chairman stated the cost.

 

[pontoonlew]

Well you've signed players very recently and clearly weren't ready for the start of the season, hence your poor results.

Deciding to call your own games off and then seeing what the EFL says seems to be risky business. Why can't Grimsby just do what every other club does when they have a positive test.

So I’ll ask again, if our players aren’t fit and ready for the season, why have we just sent them home for 2 weeks? What benefit does that bring us? We’ve only got 3 injuries.

I think it boils down to us not wanting to play the season whatsoever for financial reasons, not that we’re struggling, but we’re extremely prudently run and I imagine the current figures are giving our board heart failure.

 

[Son of Cod]

Stevenage chairman stated the cost.

Okay, then that's what Stevenage paid but their players weren't self isolating were they? NHS swab tests are non-existent last I heard, so just because Stevenage paid £3.5k it doesn't necessarily mean that we'd get the same price from a private medical facility.

So I’ll ask again, if our players aren’t fit and ready for the season, why have we just sent them home for 2 weeks? What benefit does that bring us? We’ve only got 3 injuries.

Because we're adhering to government guidelines?

 

[F!RTHY]

Okay, then that's what Stevenage paid but their players weren't self isolating were they? NHS swab tests are non-existent last I heard, so just because Stevenage paid £3.5k it doesn't necessarily mean that we'd get the same price from a private medical facility.

Because we're adhering to government guidelines?

If it was that plain-cut, then the EFL wouldn’t take it upon themselves to investigate you for breach of testing protocol.

Just to add; in yesterday’s EFL statement, it confirms that the game will not be played because you are unable to forefill the fixture.

Without wanting to sound like a broken record; why doesn’t your chairman pay for the testing? That way, the testing protocol has been adhered to and we can play the game under the correct safety guidelines.

It’s that’s simple.

 

[pontoonlew]

Because we're adhering to government guidelines?

I’m more getting at his point that we’ve thrown the games because our players aren’t fit, which is obviously bollocks because it makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Son of Cod]

If it was that plain-cut, then the EFL wouldn’t take it upon themselves to investigate you for breach of testing protocol.

Yes, the EFL definitely aren't the sort of body that believe they are a law unto themselves. They can dock us all the points they want, but it won't uphold because it'll go above their jurisdiction.

 

[Son of Cod]

If it was that plain-cut, then the EFL wouldn’t take it upon themselves to investigate you for breach of testing protocol.

Just to add; in yesterday’s EFL statement, it confirms that the game will not be played because you are unable to forefill the fixture.

Without wanting to sound like a broken record; why doesn’t your chairman pay for the testing? That way, the testing protocol has been adhered to and we can play the game under the correct safety guidelines.

It’s that’s simple.

No, it's not. A negative swab test doesn't mean you get to come out of isolation as symptoms can take up to 14 days to appear. How do people still not understand this? Do you not read or watch the news?

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[F!RTHY]

No, it's not. A positive swab test doesn't mean you get to come out of isolation as symptoms can take up to 14 days to appear. How do people still not understand this? Do you not read or watch the news?

I take it you didn’t read back what you wrote before posting?

Why would a POSITIVE swab test allow you to come out of isolation? That makes no sense.

If tests are done and it transpires that actually a number of your players have contracted the virus, then fair enough; your actions would be justified.

The fact that little effort is being shown to get games on is concerning; and not just for my club - but for EVERY CLUB IN THIS LEAGUE.

 

[Son of Cod]

I take it you didn’t read back what you wrote before posting?

Why would a POSITIVE swab test allow you to come out of isolation? That makes no sense.

If tests are done and it transpires that actually a number of your players have contracted the virus, then fair enough; your actions would be justified.

The fact that little effort is being shown to get games on is concerning; and not just for my club - but for EVERY CLUB IN THIS LEAGUE.

Obviously, I meant negative.

Bollocks about actions being justified too, the way to drive numbers down is to eradicate the threat. You've ignored my point that a negative result doesn't mean you get to come out of isolation, so what do you propose we do then considering our squad is isolating? How do we play our game and adhere to government guidelines? Are we gonna play you at FIFA or something?

 

[F!RTHY]

Obviously, I meant negative.

Bollocks about actions being justified too, the way to drive numbers down is to eradicate the threat. You've ignored my point that a negative result doesn't mean you get to come out of isolation, so what do you propose we do then considering our squad is isolating? How do we play our game and adhere to government guidelines? Are we gonna play you at FIFA or something?

Forgive me, but who has told your players to self isolate? Your chairman? The government guidelines? The EFL?

Surely, if you test your players you can demand those who have contracted the virus to self-isolate - as opposed to putting GTFC in its entirety on lockdown for 2 weeks.

Common sense, surely.

 

[pontoonlew]

Forgive me, but who has told your players to self isolate? Your chairman? The government guidelines? The EFL?

Surely, if you test your players you can demand those who have contracted the virus to self-isolate - as opposed to putting GTFC in its entirety on lockdown for 2 weeks.

Common sense, surely.

I totally agree that we maybe should’ve done tests to get this game on and I believe we’ve lied about saying the EFL directed us to postpone.

However, what we have done is follow the government guidelines to the letter and for Bradford to try and force us into playing is bang out of order and embarrassing. Are we being overly cautious when there’s a viable option there for us? Yes. Can you stop us doing that? Nope.

FWIW I’m self isolating at the minute after a lad at work contracted it (he sits on the opposite side of the office) When I got the call from track and trace they didn’t actually ask if I had a match against the mighty Bradford City this weekend so I’m presuming you’re not written into the rules anywhere.

 

[LS Bantam]

Sticking to the point of the thread (no one trying to start massive Bradford City guff), yes Grimsby are sticking to the guidelines as Joe Public would, but as per Stevenage paying for testing (results within 24 hours, not even the luxury of a week to get results), it can be done. Should ten first teamers be positive then fair enough, call it off, if this is to be the norm we won’t ever finish the season.

 

[Son of Cod]

Forgive me, but who has told your players to self isolate? Your chairman? The government guidelines? The EFL?

Surely, if you test your players you can demand those who have contracted the virus to self-isolate - as opposed to putting GTFC in its entirety on lockdown for 2 weeks.

Common sense, surely.

Yes, the government guidelines. If you come into contact with someone with COVID you must self isolate. Do you need a crash course in COVID basics? It's only been all over the media for the past 8 months, so completely understandable that you're not up to speed.

 

[BlackHaddock]

£3.5k to definitively know who does and doesn’t have it and no reason therefore not to play (as Stevenage proved)?

Posted on Firday 25th Sep: Club Statement - Cheltenham Town vs. Grimsby Town

Third Paragraph says: The club did consider testing the squad today however, the medical advice received was that such testing would be of no effect as the incubation period of the virus being a minimum of five days, with the squad last being in contact with the player three days ago.

 

[pontoonlew]

Posted on Firday 25th Sep: Club Statement - Cheltenham Town vs. Grimsby Town

Third Paragraph says: The club did consider testing the squad today however, the medical advice received was that such testing would be of no effect as the incubation period of the virus being a minimum of five days, with the squad last being in contact with the player three days ago.

This is the bit that doesn’t sit right/make sense to me. This argument doesn’t stand up when we could’ve tested the team this week and got Bradford on. We can’t be forced into it, but we should’ve at least tried.