Ipswich Town -vs- Barnsley - 6/8/16 - 15:00

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League head to head (including playoffs).
Ipswich - 21
Draws - 9
Barnsley - 11

Biggest Ipswich win - 6-1 on 30th August 1999.
Biggest Barnsley win - 5-1 on 4th September 1957 and 2nd October 1990.
Highest scoring game - Barnsley 3-5 Ipswich on 10th December 2011.

Last 5 meetings.
Ipswich 1-0 Barnsley - 31st March 2012.
Barnsley 1-1 Ipswich - 29th September 2012.
Ipswich 1-1 Barnsley - 19th January 2013.
Ipswich 1-1 Barnsley - 1st November 2013.
Barnsley 2-2 Ipswich - 8th February 2014.

Ipswich have a Barnsley legend at the helm and signed Paul Digby from us this summer. Don't think we have any former Ipswich players on the books at the moment.

Ipswich just missed out on the playoffs last season. Don't think they've brought in any significant new signings as of yet (I welcome any correction on that front). We're riding high on confidence and team spirit at the moment and have added several new young players to our squad which is a squad with very little Championship experience and I would wager one of the youngest (if not youngest) in the league.

I'm going to go score draw for this one at 1-1 or 2-2 and would be happy with that.
 

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Playing a promoted team at home is, on paper, the ideal opening fixture. However, like Craig says, they'll be full of confidence, and we've been rubbish in pre-season so don't know how this will go.

I'm feeling optimistic so I think we'll get off to a winning start, a tight 2-1.
 

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One of the toughest opening fixtures we could've asked for, away at a solid team with a manager who knows the division like the back of his hand.

I'll be pretty happy with a draw tbh. A win would be unreal but not impossible.
 

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Don't really know what to think of this, we haven't strengthened from last season but the likes of Bishop & McGoldrick ARE fit (at least for the moment) which is a massive boost. I'd like to think we'll have enough to get over the line here, but you never really know on the opening day.

Optimistically? 2-0. McGoldrick brace to set him up for a great season.
 

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4-2 win, entertaining game, debut hat-trick for Grant Ward - can't ask for more than that.
 

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Always disappointing to lose. Not too disheartened though, I mean no one expected Grant Ward to turn into Messi did they?
 

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Always disappointing to lose. Not too disheartened though, I mean no one expected Grant Ward to turn into Messi did they?

I did.

Told Ipswich fans how good he was.

Massive reality check for you lot, your fans are full of it all over Twitter but have now gone silent. Even playing well which they all say, you got battered.
 

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Could have been worse. Like throwing a two goal lead away at home. Now that would have been disheartening.
 

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Could have been worse. Like throwing a two goal lead away at home. Now that would have been disheartening.

We've only just started on our main transfers, our squads about 50% complete, to be picking up points already is a bonus for us, whether we were winning or not.

And we still got a point, sp how can it be worse than losing 4-2 to ipswich?
 

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We've only just started on our main transfers, our squads about 50% complete, to be picking up points already is a bonus for us, whether we were winning or not.

And we still got a point, sp how can it be worse than losing 4-2 to ipswich?
Are you ok?

Should have had at least a point by the sounds of things but poor finishing, poor defending and a couple of poor refereeing decisions put paid to that. No shame in losing at Portman Road and promising that we had more shots and possession. I'm sure the players will learn from their mistakes.
 

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Barnsley fan first time poster on here.
Promising performance from us and on another day we may have won that one and gone in front at half time. We were also slightly hard done by as we should have had a certain penalty at 3-2 and also Gru should have been sent off in the first half.

Nice to hear a few Ipswich fans have been complimentary towards us which makes me think we'll be alright this year. Good luck to Ipswich, good set of fans and we Barnsley lot love big Mick, top 6 will be tricky for you lot this year but you'll have a good go.

We were solid at the back in the first half whilst also creating chances at the other end. We switched off for 5 mins and conceded 2 very quick goals which cost us the game in the end. We had a real good go but when throwing everything forward it was inevitable that we'd look suspect at the back and that's what happened.

We know what we need to work on and should definitely improve and adapt.


In regard to the Rotherham fan above.
It's a bit different losing away at Portman Road to a solid Ipswich side with a very experienced manager (in which we showed real promise), than it is to lose a 2 goal lead at home against a poor and average Wolves side with only 10 men and an unknown manager.
Well done on your point though.
 

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Welcome to the forum Luke, hope you stick around as we're woefully underrepresented on here.
 

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You're all under the false impression Ipswich have got a good side. Very average.

If it weren't for em signing Grant Ward they'd be in for a season of mediocrity.

As for talking about shots and possession it means fuck all. The number of goals in the back of the net are what count and your will struggle scoring this season. Bradshaw and Winnall won't adapt to the league if you ask me, Strikers who succeed in this division need to be quick or be incredibly physical, they're neither.

As for Zenga being an unknown manager, the blokes coached all over the world in an 18 year period and played as a Italian international goalkeeper. He's probably forgot more about football today than what you or Heckinbottom have learnt in your lifetimes.
 

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You're all under the false impression Ipswich have got a good side. Very average.

If it weren't for em signing Grant Ward they'd be in for a season of mediocrity.

As for talking about shots and possession it means fuck all. The number of goals in the back of the net are what count and your will struggle scoring this season. Bradshaw and Winnall won't adapt to the league if you ask me, Strikers who succeed in this division need to be quick or be incredibly physical, they're neither.

As for Zenga being an unknown manager, the blokes coached all over the world in an 18 year period and played as a Italian international goalkeeper. He's probably forgot more about football today than what you or Heckinbottom have learnt in your lifetimes.

We'll see at the end of the season lad but they've consistently finished near the top 6 for a number of years now. Also forgive me for not believing everything you say to be concrete as strangely enough I highly doubt that you are the voice of all reason when it comes to football.

It's funny that you'll say we'll struggle scoring this year because that means you know absolutely bugger all about us. We'll score a very decent amount this year but may look leaky at the back which was proved in our first game.
I'd rather have 2 promising strikers who score than barely any strikers at all like you have.

Yes you're right about it being goals that count but because we've only just been promoted it's about finding our feet in this division and on that showing away from home we should be fine.

Zenga may have coached all over the world but his record is bang average and he averages a club a year. He's also got zero experience of english football.
You can even ask Wolves fans and they'll tell you their squad is still currently poor even though they've just started to recruit better.
Nice try though.
 
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We'll see at the end of the season lad but they've consistently finished near the top 6 for a number of years now. Also forgive me for not believing everything you say to be concrete as strangely enough I highly doubt that you are the voice of all reason when it comes to football.

It's funny that you'll say we'll struggle scoring this year because that means you know absolutely bugger all about us. We'll score a very decent amount this year but may look leaky at the back which was proved in our first game.
I'd rather have 2 promising strikers who score than barely any strikers at all like you have.

Yes you're right about it being goals that count but because we've only just been promoted it's about finding our feet in this division and on that showing away from home we should be fine.

Zenga may have coached all over the world but his record is bang average and he averages a club a year. He's also got zero experience of english football.
You can even ask Wolves fans and they'll tell you their squad is still currently poor even though they've just started to recruit better.
Nice try though.

This division has been incredibly poor for the last couple of seasons, hence why likes of us have stayed been able to stay up, spending next to fuck all and having a new side each year. Far more competition this years, money spent at both ends of the table and Ipswich will finish nowhere near the top 6 because of that. You can quote me on that. You'll find on here that a select few will disagree with everything I say and the vast majority will agree with me on most things.

Winnall and Bradshaw will lose all their promise this season, again quote me on that. Simply don't have the necessary qualities to excel at this level. We're still yet to sign our strikers, the one we have though, Danny Ward is a far better all round player than any of yours, if it weren't for his constant injury problems he'd be at a better side than ours. If he keeps fit he'll easily score 12-15, he's already on 1. Again Winnall and Bradshaw will struggle to reach that marker.

By the time you've 'find your feet' the rest of us will have pulled away from you. Even us with our team at 50% complete are already ahead of you.

Yep winning national titles and managing at the top level in various countries is bang average int it. Wolves fans have been on a downer for months, the players they have absolutely pissed league one a couple of years ago and have signed some players that'd fit in anybody's side. Kid who got sent off is rated at £8m by em on here. Far from poor.
 

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This division has been incredibly poor for the last couple of seasons, hence why likes of us have stayed been able to stay up, spending next to fuck all and having a new side each year. Far more competition this years, money spent at both ends of the table and Ipswich will finish nowhere near the top 6 because of that. You can quote me on that. You'll find on here that a select few will disagree with everything I say and the vast majority will agree with me on most things.

Winnall and Bradshaw will lose all their promise this season, again quote me on that. Simply don't have the necessary qualities to excel at this level. We're still yet to sign our strikers, the one we have though, Danny Ward is a far better all round player than any of yours, if it weren't for his constant injury problems he'd be at a better side than ours. If he keeps fit he'll easily score 12-15, he's already on 1. Again Winnall and Bradshaw will struggle to reach that marker.

By the time you've 'find your feet' the rest of us will have pulled away from you. Even us with our team at 50% complete are already ahead of you.

Yep winning national titles and managing at the top level in various countries is bang average int it. Wolves fans have been on a downer for months, the players they have absolutely pissed league one a couple of years ago and have signed some players that'd fit in anybody's side. Kid who got sent off is rated at £8m by em on here. Far from poor.

No offence mate, but you're talking out your arse.

You can have your opinion and I'll have mine. Don't pretend like you've watched my team on enough occasions to be able critique it though. Hence why I haven't done that about your team.

I personally think we will finish above you comfortably because I'm optimistic of our chances.


Yes Wolves will get better because of the vast amount of money they'll throw at it. Zenga is underwhelming though, his biggest club Sampdoria where he failed.
 

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SERNWA is our resident WUM, Luke. He was pissed off when they missed out on Bradshaw. A bit puzzling that now he's trying to pull him down at every opportunity, or maybe just bitter lemons.

As for Zenga. I'm not going to say he's a shit manager but his two national titles came at Steaua Bucharest who are by far the biggest club in Romania and Red Star Belgrade in the Serbian league where it's pretty much a coin toss between them and Partizan Belgrade every season.
 

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This division has been incredibly poor for the last couple of seasons, hence why likes of us have stayed been able to stay up, spending next to fuck all and having a new side each year. Far more competition this years, money spent at both ends of the table and Ipswich will finish nowhere near the top 6 because of that. You can quote me on that. You'll find on here that a select few will disagree with everything I say and the vast majority will agree with me on most things.

Winnall and Bradshaw will lose all their promise this season, again quote me on that. Simply don't have the necessary qualities to excel at this level. We're still yet to sign our strikers, the one we have though, Danny Ward is a far better all round player than any of yours, if it weren't for his constant injury problems he'd be at a better side than ours. If he keeps fit he'll easily score 12-15, he's already on 1. Again Winnall and Bradshaw will struggle to reach that marker.

By the time you've 'find your feet' the rest of us will have pulled away from you. Even us with our team at 50% complete are already ahead of you.

Yep winning national titles and managing at the top level in various countries is bang average int it. Wolves fans have been on a downer for months, the players they have absolutely pissed league one a couple of years ago and have signed some players that'd fit in anybody's side. Kid who got sent off is rated at £8m by em on here. Far from poor.
More strikers struggle than succeed to make the step up from L1 to the Championship; Bradshaw and Winnall may well fall into that category, but one of them is going to have to get them goals for them to stay up.

Their side doesn't look as strong in midfield as it does last season, having lost Isgrove and Brownhill, will have to see who else they bring in.

FWIW, Wolves are about to sign Talisca for €25m, yes, 25 million Euros from Benfica, so you've played them at the right time. As for Ipswich, they'll be in and around the top half again, for as long as McCarthy is there they always will do.
 

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Disagree with the midfield opinion completely JJH. May not have strengthened from last season but Moncur and Kent both look like more than adequate replacements for Brownhill and Isgrove respectively.
 

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I don't buy into this myth Moncur is a good player, didn't exactly help Colchester last year.

Kent, he's one of those who'll still be classed as promising at 25 and end up doing fuck all.

As for Bradshaw, I said all along I'd have preferred Gregory when we were after both. Simply as Gregory has been there and done it.
 

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You were in for Kent too.

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I don't want to come across as if I dislike Rotherham, coz I don't, but I'm kind of glad you'll be taking one of the relegation spots as it means we only have the other two to worry about.
 

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You were in for Kent too.

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I don't want to come across as if I dislike Rotherham, coz I don't, but I'm kind of glad you'll be taking one of the relegation spots as it means we only have the other two to worry about.

We thought about Kent weeks ago and then pursued Taylor, we preferred him.

Not a hope in hell we'll go down, more confident than ever now.
 

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Disagree with the midfield opinion completely JJH. May not have strengthened from last season but Moncur and Kent both look like more than adequate replacements for Brownhill and Isgrove respectively.
Jury's still out on both of them, but neither tore up trees in L1 with their respective sides. We shall see how they develop under Heckingbottom's (sp?) guidance.

I don't buy into this myth Moncur is a good player, didn't exactly help Colchester last year.

Kent, he's one of those who'll still be classed as promising at 25 and end up doing fuck all.

As for Bradshaw, I said all along I'd have preferred Gregory when we were after both. Simply as Gregory has been there and done it.
In fairness, Gilbey looked a class act for Wigan on Saturday, but their fans did say he was the better of the two central midfielders, so we shall wait and see how they both do at this level.
 

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Kent was recalled by Liverpool and Moncur hit double figures in a relegated side. We'll have to agree to disagree. Besides that Scowen has slotted back into his preferred centre midfield role now we have brought in Yiadom anyway. We shall see indeed.
 

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We thought about Kent weeks ago and then pursued Taylor, we preferred him.

Not a hope in hell we'll go down, more confident than ever now.
I like Taylor but don't kid yourself that he's better than Kent. Kent stood out in a Coventry team that were top of the league. Taylor struggled to get going in a Peterborough side that massively underachieved last year.
 

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I don't buy into this myth Moncur is a good player, didn't exactly help Colchester last year.

Kent, he's one of those who'll still be classed as promising at 25 and end up doing fuck all.

As for Bradshaw, I said all along I'd have preferred Gregory when we were after both. Simply as Gregory has been there and done it.
You do come across extremely bitter about everything.

Kent is regarded as one of the best prospects for his age out of the top academies.
And regarding Moncur... 1 man doesn't make a team, he scored around 15 from midfield in a relegated side and is of a good age for us to develop.

Gregory is a good player, but his record in the champ last time out was for the most part woeful and he's older than Bradshaw who is having his first crack at it.
Also when you look at the prices for both it's a no brainer going for Bradshaw over Gregory.
 

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Just spoke to the resident Coventry fan JoeJoeJoeJoe about Ryan Kent; he said that he's got a lot of potential but little end product. 1 goal and 0 assists in 17 games with Coventry last term.

See what Heckingbottom can do with him, but he's got big boots to fill.
 

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Hi all,

Kent has loads of potential, is very quick and will be a great player in a few years. Has no final ball/composure in front of goal at the moment though.

Bye all.
 

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