Is Brendan Rogers position under threat ?

[Humongous Fungus]

It's crazy that we're still one of the most successful FA cup teams yet haven't won one for 60 years. I hope to one day see us lift a major trophy (rather obvious) but can't see us ever winning the league again, so the FA cup has to be it.

 

[mistermagic]

Oi! Since Sherwood took over we've been a damned good team (with the exception of the Southampton result), we're no longer a given win, Arsenal are in for a shock if they think that it'll be easy in the final.

I was thinking in a more sense of occasion way. Consider both squads, the fact that it was Gerrard's last season and an FA Cup semi should have been enough for Liverpool to pull through.
Saying this, I do admire Sherwood who I'm sure is doing a good job at your place. I was actually one of the few to rate his job at Tottenham and was quite disappointed he didn't get the job full-time. He was horribly underrated on TFF.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

It's crazy that we're still one of the most successful FA cup teams yet haven't won one for 60 years. I hope to one day see us lift a major trophy (rather obvious) but can't see us ever winning the league again, so the FA cup has to be it.

Likewise, it's ridiculous. And you don't know about the league, I bet Man City fans were saying that not too long ago (much as I wouldn't want to win the league that way), things can change very quickly imo.

I was thinking in a more sense of occasion way. Consider both squads, the fact that it was Gerrard's last season and an FA Cup semi should have been enough for Liverpool to pull through.
Saying this, I do admire Sherwood who I'm sure is doing a good job at your place. I was actually one of the few to rate his job at Tottenham and was quite disappointed he didn't get the job full-time. He was horribly underrated on TFF.

Fair enough, but at the same time, all that fawning over 'Gerrard's final' blah blah blah must have motivated our lads in some way. Not to mention the fact that Liverpool have quite a record for bottling it recently.

 

[SALTIRE]

Oi! Since Sherwood took over we've been a damned good team (with the exception of the Southampton result), we're no longer a given win, Arsenal are in for a shock if they think that it'll be easy in the final.

Bloody hope you guys can pull it off, it would be brilliant and hilarious.

 

[Whitechapel]

Bloody hope you guys can pull it off, it would be brilliant and hilarious.

Calling it hilarious is a disservice to Villa. Under Sherwood they have shone and for me it wouldn't be a cup shock if they won it. Would be fully deserved.

Just hoping whatever the outcome that it's an exciting game for the 40,000 neutrals watching at Wembley with the minority of fans.

 

[Spear]

Tick............
tock...............

 

[allouso]

Think he'll walk himself out to be honest. Be surprised if he doesn't!

 

[JaseTheVillain]

No payout if he walks, so no, I disagree, Allouso.

 

[Spear]

you cant keep him mate, he is a total laughing stock, we laugh at you anyway but he gives us more ammo

Pags says you are loyal to managers though

 

[Stevencc]

Today's match didn't mean much in the grand scheme of things for Liverpool but I do think it'll be the catalyst to get rid of Rodgers, death by 1000 cuts type thing.

 

[SkyBlueElephant]

I hope they stand by him for now, he exceeded all expectations last year. If he had more experience of the big games Liverpool would have won the title. After having his main players unavailable it was always to going to be a season of transition and a tough year, further compounded by the media attention surrounding Sterling and Gerrard this year only made it tougher. It was only March when Liverpool went on a 13 game unbeaten run I believe and apparently they were a cert for the top 4.

I've made this point before but with 5 teams who are now realistically expecting champions league football, do you sack the manager every time you don't finish in the top 4?

His transfer dealings need to improve and the first thing I'd do at Liverpool is get rid of this transfer committee nonsense, whoever was responsible for bringing Balotelli, Lambert, Lallana, Lovren, Markovic to the club should take a lot of the flak.

I hope he gets another season but if he has a bad year next season it will probably be right to part ways with him.

 

[SALTIRE]

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[SALTIRE]

you cant keep him mate, he is a total laughing stock, we laugh at you anyway but he gives us more ammo

Pags says you are loyal to managers though

Today's match didn't mean much in the grand scheme of things for Liverpool but I do think it'll be the catalyst to get rid of Rodgers, death by 1000 cuts type thing.

 

[mistermagic]

His transfer dealings need to improve and the first thing I'd do at Liverpool is get rid of this transfer committee nonsense, whoever was responsible for bringing Balotelli, Lambert, Lallana, Lovren, Markovic to the club should take a lot of the flak.

Lallana and Lovren were sensible acquisitions considering the seasons they had with Southampton the year before while Markovic has been decent of what I've seen (which hasn't been a lot).
I wouldn't blame the board for sacking Rodgers after a 1-6 defeat at Stoke though. Has this even happened before?

 

[AFCB_Mark]

It's hard to criticise him for transfers because nobody outside of the senior staff knows how much influence Rodgers actually has in selecting or signing players, with this transfer committee structure they seem to have.

Its certainly been a mixed bag though.

 

[Jamie_SFC]

I don't actually think Lallana has been as bad as people make out. He's not been great but he's been injured quite a bit.

 

[smat]

Lallana and Lovren were sensible acquisitions

For forty five million pounds?!


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[mistermagic]

For forty five million pounds?!


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I'm judging from on-field matters only. Liverpool had a lot of cash from the Suarez deal and Southampton knew it. Fair play.

What the fuck is Tapatalk?

 

[Jockney]

I'm judging from on-field matters only. Liverpool had a lot of cash from the Suarez deal and Southampton knew it. Fair play.

What the fuck is Tapatalk?

So, they allowed themselves to be exploited, then -- about as far from sensible as you can get!

 

[mistermagic]

They got shit negotiators. Whatyagonado?

 

[JimJams]

The thing is people are excusing Rodgers because the signings were made by a committee. But does that excuse him for their poor performances?
As said Lovren came off the back of an excellent season, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect Rogers to get him in the side and playing well even in a defence that was new to him. Is it actually the case that the players bought simply aren't good enough, or are they actually easily good enough just being poorly managed? Did players like Lovren play well above themselves for a full season or more and somehow found their actual level of ability under Rodgers or are they actually a lot better than they're showing for Liverpool because he just doesn't get the best out of them like their previous managers?

People also talk about what he did with Swansea, but to be honest I see very little similarity in the way Rodgers' Swansea side set up and played and the way his Liverpool side do. He's either abandoned the philosophy because he doesn't have the players capable or he's abandoned it because he feels it doesn't suit a side that should be aiming for titles/trophies but as such the side doesn't have a real style of play. Or maybe he's stuck with it and is really struggling to implement it. But it's been long enough.

 

[Abertawe]

And I hate to say





























I TOLD YOU SO

 

[Storzy]

People also talk about what he did with Swansea, but to be honest I see very little similarity in the way Rodgers' Swansea side set up and played and the way his Liverpool side do. He's either abandoned the philosophy because he doesn't have the players capable or he's abandoned it because he feels it doesn't suit a side that should be aiming for titles/trophies but as such the side doesn't have a real style of play. Or maybe he's stuck with it and is really struggling to implement it. But it's been long enough.

Did Rodgers even implement that style at Swansea, I thought it was set up by Martinez?

 

[Abertawe]

Which is why I hated on the pleb so much. According to him he was solely responsible for anything good Swansea related. Respect him for what he did, but, he came into a club with a structure already in place. For him to try and take sole credit was just pure unadulterated narcissism.

 

[JimJams]

Did Rodgers even implement that style at Swansea, I thought it was set up by Martinez?

Whether he implemented it or not I'm not sure is relevant. With Swansea he had them playing a way that got him offered the Liverpool job and he's not playing Liverpool in that way. For what it's worth Martinez doesn't play that way with Everton either.

 

[Storzy]

Whether he implemented it or not I'm not sure is relevant. With Swansea he had them playing a way that got him offered the Liverpool job and he's not playing Liverpool in that way. For what it's worth Martinez doesn't play that way with Everton either.

My point was that it probably wasn't his style, so wasn't necessarily going to implement it at Liverpool anyway.

I think Martinez has tried to implement a similar passing style at Everton, but it hasn't worked. He also got Wigan playing that way and based on the careers of the two managers I'd say the short passing style is more distinctive quality of Martinez than Rodgers.

 

[gingerbeardedrunningman]

Whether he implemented it or not I'm not sure is relevant. With Swansea he had them playing a way that got him offered the Liverpool job and he's not playing Liverpool in that way. For what it's worth Martinez doesn't play that way with Everton either.

My point was that it probably wasn't his style, so wasn't necessarily going to implement it at Liverpool anyway.

I think Martinez has tried to implement a similar passing style at Everton, but it hasn't worked. He also got Wigan playing that way and based on the careers of the two managers I'd say the short passing style is more distinctive quality of Martinez than Rodgers.

I think the style of play is associated equally with both managers.
Rogers biggest problem this season was using failed formations and lineups continuously in the bigger games.
Toure kept playing centre back... Can kept playing in defence... even in yesterdays last game of the season... Urgh! Painful!

 

[mistermagic]

https://twitter.com/101greatgoals/status/602764684748554240

 

[allouso]

He'll fit right in.

 

[mistermagic]

Tbf Lille had an incredibly shit season. Origi just hasn't stood out the way you'd expect a future Liverpool player to (or used to expect).