Joey Barton

[EricSabin]

Back in court Monday on an assault charge after attacking his wife in June. How on earth can Rovers fans be happy with this fella in the dugout?

Horrible cnut.

 

[Chris FGR]

They were mad to appoint him. Trouble follows him everywhere.

 

[EricSabin]

They were mad to appoint him. Trouble follows him everywhere.

Completely agree

 

[Super_horns]

How will that impact his re-trial for the Barnsley incident.

Any jury will look at this and have their opinion based on the latest charge.

 

[Chris FGR]

How will that impact his re-trial for the Barnsley incident.

Any jury will look at this and have their opinion based on the latest charge.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

How will that impact his re-trial for the Barnsley incident.

Any jury will look at this and have their opinion based on the latest charge.

It won't. Any jury members will either not know who he is anyway so won't even take note of this, or they already know he's a serial offender.

 

[Indian Dan]

I think for the club they have to get shot. Sponsors and female fans won’t want to be associated with the club. Tbf, most Gas fans have disowned him now. Probably gave him the benefit of the doubt before, but this . . .

 

[Gas Go Marching In]

We were very split before he was appointed. I've personally never liked him. Obviously being our manager though and he does tlak a good game, he didn't do bad at Fleetwood so you want to give him a chance and believe he is a reformed character. We are in a very sticky situation at the minute as he isn't actually guilty yet but if we stand by him and don't do anything then effectively supporting domestic violence. Will be interesting to see what the club say and do next.

 

[GTFCfish]

If Barton had not had the privileged life of being a footballer he would 100% be serving time along with his Brother and Cousin for murder.
Absolute twat of a man just needs sparking out.

 

[AdamStag]

He’s a strange one.

Where you see his interviews, not about football but in general he’s quite an articulate lad, he comes across well.

However, ever since his days at man city he’s clearly got a screw loose and whereas maybe 1 isolate incident might be overlooked, he’s a catalogue of incidents the length of your arm.

Be surprised if rovers keep him now

 

[kieran_vale]

I don’t see how the Rovers board don’t suspend him until this is resolved at least. That way they’re not presuming guilt but showing that they take it seriously.

I just think when you look at his history for any board employing him it really should be a red flag so can’t be shocked when he’s linked with something like this.

 

[Agombar stool]

I know its Barton but please remember its innocent until proven guilty.

 

[loz]

I know its Barton but please remember its innocent until proven guilty.

Absolutely. We all have to make our way in the world, pay our way and take responsibility for our actions. The club will wait to see how this unfolds and then consider if they have to take any action.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

I don’t see how the Rovers board don’t suspend him until this is resolved at least. That way they’re not presuming guilt but showing that they take it seriously.

I just think when you look at his history for any board employing him it really should be a red flag so can’t be shocked when he’s linked with something like this.

Not much point suspending him when the court case is tomorrow. An outcome will likely be decided tomorrow - he'll plead not guilty, but I don't think it is likely to go to a trial.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

I know its Barton but please remember its innocent until proven guilty.

Not quite true.

A not guilty verdict doesn't mean he's 'innocent', it means they weren't able to prove it.

 

[Agombar stool]

Absolutely. We all have to make our way in the world, pay our way and take responsibility for our actions. The club will wait to see how this unfolds and then consider if they have to take any action.

Yeah I completely agree. If found guilty I'm sure Rovers will take the correct steps.

 

[Agombar stool]

Not quite true.

A not guilty verdict doesn't mean he's 'innocent', it means they weren't able to prove it.

Fair point. The law can be an ass. Or an asset depending on your point of view.

 

[GTFCfish]

He’s a strange one.

Where you see his interviews, not about football but in general he’s quite an articulate lad, he comes across well.

However, ever since his days at man city he’s clearly got a screw loose and whereas maybe 1 isolate incident might be overlooked, he’s a catalogue of incidents the length of your arm.

Be surprised if rovers keep him now

He definitely speaks quite well to be honest, this Tweet a great insight into his morals:

 

[AdamStag]

He definitely speaks quite well to be honest, this Tweet a great insight into his morals:

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Haha……

quality.

If found guilty you can’t manage again.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Haha……

quality.

If found guilty you can’t manage again.

Darren Ferguson seems to still be employed?

 

[Railway Blue]

It really does seem difficult to have any sympathy for Joey Barton.

 

[Gassy]

So his wife has said today that no one is accusing him of violence against her. So it throws into the equation another woman, not that that changes anything - potentially anyway. Seems like the wife talk is paper talk. Also worth noting that no ambulance was called or needed.

I think the entire fan base has said that if guilty, that’s it. But how long does this go on for?

As for the Stendel case, that also seems less of a clear verdict than originally the papers had made out. It was said that Barton had punched/head butted him but as it turns out, there were apparently no witnesses (in a full tunnel) and Stendel could only confirm that he felt a knock on his shoulder that knocked him over. I think he will get away with this one tbh.

Big picture though is he’s a mess and has a lot of baggage. Only been here 6/7 months and we’re dealing with 2 court cases.

Personally I’ll wait until more info comes out tomorrow before casting judgement.

 

[PuB]

In life you find that these kind of charges and allegations have a tendency to follow certain people around. It’s very often not a coincidence.

 

[Robshep]

So his wife has said today that no one is accusing him of violence against her. So it throws into the equation another woman, not that that changes anything - potentially anyway. Seems like the wife talk is paper talk. Also worth noting that no ambulance was called or needed.

I think the entire fan base has said that if guilty, that’s it. But how long does this go on for?

As for the Stendel case, that also seems less of a clear verdict than originally the papers had made out. It was said that Barton had punched/head butted him but as it turns out, there were apparently no witnesses (in a full tunnel) and Stendel could only confirm that he felt a knock on his shoulder that knocked him over. I think he will get away with this one tbh.

Big picture though is he’s a mess and has a lot of baggage. Only been here 6/7 months and we’re dealing with 2 court cases.

Personally I’ll wait until more info comes out tomorrow before casting judgement.

He's not a bad lad, he's just misunderstood. Said the wife, mother and family of every scumbag ever.

 

[Gassy]

In life you find that these kind of charges and allegations have a tendency to follow certain people around. It’s very often not a coincidence.

I do agree with this.

There can only be so much smoke without fire..

 

[loz]

It really does seem difficult to have any sympathy for Joey Barton.

We should always have sympathy with the victim, not the perpetrator but as Agombar alluded to, we have a system of justice which is not perfect but we have to follow. Once that has run its course, any necessary recriminations can follow. For what it is worth, my opinion of the gas manager will coincide with those of most people and I am confident Agombar will concur.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

So his wife has said today that no one is accusing him of violence against her. So it throws into the equation another woman, not that that changes anything - potentially anyway. Seems like the wife talk is paper talk. Also worth noting that no ambulance was called or needed.

I think the entire fan base has said that if guilty, that’s it. But how long does this go on for?

As for the Stendel case, that also seems less of a clear verdict than originally the papers had made out. It was said that Barton had punched/head butted him but as it turns out, there were apparently no witnesses (in a full tunnel) and Stendel could only confirm that he felt a knock on his shoulder that knocked him over. I think he will get away with this one tbh.

Big picture though is he’s a mess and has a lot of baggage. Only been here 6/7 months and we’re dealing with 2 court cases.

Personally I’ll wait until more info comes out tomorrow before casting judgement.

The papers don't really get this kind of thing wrong - they get the tip-off and confirm with the police/CPS. And even if they did get it wrong, they'd have been forced into a correction by now (haven't seen any corrections?).

It looks like his wife probably never brought about the charges, but someone must've called the police and they gathered enough evidence to build a case. The 999 call to police will probably play a big part.

Hard to prove what went on if there are no witnesses (we don't know who saw it) and a victim not willing to press charges so there's a good chance he'll get off with it. But the police don't send stuff like this to court if they don't believe there's enough evidence for a conviction.

 

[Indian Dan]

Past behaviour is usually a pretty good indicator of future behaviour.

 

[EricSabin]

So his wife has said today that no one is accusing him of violence against her. So it throws into the equation another woman, not that that changes anything - potentially anyway. Seems like the wife talk is paper talk. Also worth noting that no ambulance was called or needed.

I think the entire fan base has said that if guilty, that’s it. But how long does this go on for?

As for the Stendel case, that also seems less of a clear verdict than originally the papers had made out. It was said that Barton had punched/head butted him but as it turns out, there were apparently no witnesses (in a full tunnel) and Stendel could only confirm that he felt a knock on his shoulder that knocked him over. I think he will get away with this one tbh.

Big picture though is he’s a mess and has a lot of baggage. Only been here 6/7 months and we’re dealing with 2 court cases.

Personally I’ll wait until more info comes out tomorrow before casting judgement.

Can you trust his wife coming out and defending him? Not so sure it holds much weight for me

 

[Agombar stool]

We should always have sympathy with the victim, not the perpetrator but as Agombar alluded to, we have a system of justice which is not perfect but we have to follow. Once that has run its course, any necessary recriminations can follow. For what it is worth, my opinion of the gas manager will coincide with those of most people and I am confident Agombar will concur.

Yeah I agree. Let's wait and see what the hearing states and go from there.