Kurse of the Kettle - U's v Stags

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It was because of a penalty that was a dive and seeing as your bench is full of cheats it's no surprise.

I've not seen Luton or Notts County yet this season and I would say you're no where near the best team I've seen at the Abbey this season. Solid at the back but you don't take enough risks as a team for me and whilst you are unbeaten in 20, you won't go up with draws.

= bang average.
Incorrect.
Mid-table (12th/13th = bang average
Play-offs (4th-7th) = above average
Simple really.
 

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Just my opinion lads, no need to take it personally.

By the way, your spending over the summer I wonder whether that would be 7th.
 

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Watched this pitch side footage that this Martin Shaw chap shot on youtube, and I still can't make up my mind on their disallowed goal. And if I can't call it after watching the replay then I wouldn't blame the lino at all.


Perhaps the most telling sign is Danny Rose's reaction. He doesn't protest with the ref or lino at all.
 

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It was because of a penalty that was a dive and seeing as your bench is full of cheats it's no surprise.

I've not seen Luton or Notts County yet this season and I would say you're no where near the best team I've seen at the Abbey this season. Solid at the back but you don't take enough risks as a team for me and whilst you are unbeaten in 20, you won't go up with draws.

= bang average.

Nah that’s above average, maybe not brilliant but clearly above average.

If Mansfield are only bang average I wonder what could be used to describe Cambridge....

Rose was onside vanni, understanding why the linesman got it wrong is another matter.

If we are going off a game or two to judge a side, we breezed past Notts County and Luton had to claw back to get a point, so maybe we are very good.
 

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Nah that’s above average, maybe not brilliant but clearly above average.

If Mansfield are only bang average I wonder what could be used to describe Cambridge....

Rose was onside vanni, understanding why the linesman got it wrong is another matter.

If we are going off a game or two to judge a side, we breezed past Notts County and Luton had to claw back to get a point, so maybe we are very good.

Describe us as not good enough and I'll be the first to admit it.

You are clearly on a good run but did not come to our place and play like a promotion team. Just my opinion of course but you looked a bang average league two team.
 

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It's funny how we all see and perceive things differently ain't it SVH? I thought Mansfield looked quite decent, solid at the back and dangerous going forward, and we did well to limit their forwards specifically Rose to only a couple of goal scoring opportunities. Bear in mind that we've got a decent home record so failing to beat us isn't really a good indicator of their strength.

They reminded me of when they promotion to the FL back in 2013 actually. A very solid unit that got the job done but not by playing eye catching footy like the Conference title winning Fleetwood or Stevenage sides.
 

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Say Conker, I'm interested to know what makes you think Rose is onside? That footage is inconclusive.
 

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For me, foot is onside (floodlight shadow) but head MAY be just offside. Doesn't matter anyway - can't blame the lino even if it is a mistake.

I'd say "bang average" play off contenders. Overall I thought we played near to as well as we are able and were allowed to. Our "under-performers" were exposed by the tactics on both sides and a strong fit well organised defence/midfield.

There are probably 10 sides, including us, with a defence and midfield that could get in the play offs if their strikers click. The same could be said for teams down to 8th getting into automatics. Mansfield draw too many (most in the Division) the 3 CUFCs Swindon and Coventry are the epitome of L2 inconsistency. Fit in form strikers will be the key for most of us - as usual in L2.
 

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Clearly onside. A real howler from the lino.

'Clearly'? LOL.

Anyway, these things even themselves out over the course of the season. Here, look at Angol 'clearly' controlling the ball with his hand in the Grimsby match. 1.20mins

 

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Say Conker, I'm interested to know what makes you think Rose is onside? That footage is inconclusive.

It looks onside to me, simple enough.

I’m backed up by the vast majority too.

All in the past now, can’t wait until we get close or in the top three so we can considering Mansfield ‘Good’
 

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The vast majority of your message board so you must be right. Onside.
 

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That footage looks inconclusive mainly down to the angle of the footage so it's very difficult to say whether it was definitely on or off.

Evans was always going to say it was on, just like his post match interview stating you "dominated" the game. I would say we were the better side first half and you were the better in the second.

If you dominated a game and only had two shots on target it would be a worrying stat for a good promotion winning side.
 

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If you pause the video when the ball is played through it really is obvious. Not even level, he was almost a yard onside.
 

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I cannot believe people are denying its onside, I’m sure the majority of Cambridge fans along with Mansfield fans and the media all agree it should of been a goal.
 

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Mansfield remind me a lot of Blackpool last season. Not an outstanding side and if they do go up, it would be among the most forgettable promotions of all time. Evans has put together a typically cynical, but functional team and they’ll more than likely be in the top 7 come May

We’re alright. Couple more signings through the door and I don’t see why we can’t make the last couple of months a bit interesting
 

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Onside. You can tell by the shadow of Rose and the defender, but it's a tough call for the linesman at full speed.
 

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Watched this pitch side footage that this Martin Shaw chap shot on youtube, and I still can't make up my mind on their disallowed goal. And if I can't call it after watching the replay then I wouldn't blame the lino at all.


Perhaps the most telling sign is Danny Rose's reaction. He doesn't protest with the ref or lino at all.

Or the defenders reaction of bollocking his team mate, rather than asking for an offside.

Fairly clear Rose was onside, but as mentioned earlier, we got away with one at Field Mill in September so it all evens out. Fairly happy with a draw in fairness, Cambridge are decent at home.
 

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I cannot believe people are denying its onside, I’m sure the majority of Cambridge fans along with Mansfield fans and the media all agree it should of been a goal.
Being Cambridge fans, we'd probably say "should have..."

Having seen the dive that lost us the point at Field Mill, we were owed that one. Sometimes it really does even out over the season - we earned a point over the 2 games and you earned 4.
 

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It was because of a penalty that was a dive and seeing as your bench is full of cheats it's no surprise.

I've not seen Luton or Notts County yet this season and I would say you're no where near the best team I've seen at the Abbey this season. Solid at the back but you don't take enough risks as a team for me and whilst you are unbeaten in 20, you won't go up with draws.

= bang average.

Not taking anything personally, and it's good to have feedback.

But a run of 1 defeat in 20 puts to bed any debate on us being bang average - we just draw too many to sides we should be beating - eg yourselves. This is exactly why we're 7th instead of the top 3.
 

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The ‘average’ thing is misleading anyway, we get it pretty much every week, usually after we’ve just beaten someone at home or picked up a good point away.

Being average in League Two is enough for the play-offs at least - it’s about maintaining the same level every week. Most games a solid 7/10 performance from all of your players will be enough to win - it’s why we’re doing so well.
 

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The ‘average’ thing is misleading anyway, we get it pretty much every week, usually after we’ve just beaten someone at home or picked up a good point away.

Being average in League Two is enough for the play-offs at least - it’s about maintaining the same level every week. Most games a solid 7/10 performance from all of your players will be enough to win - it’s why we’re doing so well.

We usually get mocked about attendances at home - it's been heard from away fans a lot more this season - wonder there's any correlation with that we've only lost 1 at home all season?

You probably are that side that folk see as "lucky" as you score late often - but it's a bit like were Man utd always when they scored late? I suspect not.
 

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Our late goals thing seems to be a deliberate way that we play matches as much as anything else. The first half in our games is usually incredibly dull (think we’re still the only EFL team not to have conceded in the opening 15 mins of a match) and the second half really exciting. Not sure if it’s just superior fitness or what.
 

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The ‘average’ thing is misleading anyway, we get it pretty much every week, usually after we’ve just beaten someone at home or picked up a good point away.

Being average in League Two is enough for the play-offs at least - it’s about maintaining the same level every week. Most games a solid 7/10 performance from all of your players will be enough to win - it’s why we’re doing so well.
Don't understand how you see 'average' as a play-off place. According to that logic, teams in 4th-7th place will gain the average number of points? Please explain.
 

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It depends whether you’re taking average to mean it’s straight statistical definition (in which case obviously the teams in like 10th - 14th are ‘average’) or just as a descriptive.
 

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Think our home ends are close to sold out for the home game against Cardiff.

(Though our notoriously dodgy ticket site isn't very reliable, so no-one is entirely sure)
 

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Whether Mansfield finish 4th or 12th all I'm saying is they looked average on Saturday. Maybe I was expecting more from them which left me disappointed in their performance.

I have nothing against them as a club it's just the way I saw it.
 

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Whether Mansfield finish 4th or 12th all I'm saying is they looked average on Saturday. Maybe I was expecting more from them which left me disappointed in their performance.

I have nothing against them as a club it's just the way I saw it.

We've been average often mate, trust me.

But we just don't lose.
 

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We usually get mocked about attendances at home - it's been heard from away fans a lot more this season - wonder there's any correlation with that we've only lost 1 at home all season?

You probably are that side that folk see as "lucky" as you score late often - but it's a bit like were Man utd always when they scored late? I suspect not.
It's a good habit to get in to. You did it a few times (Green at Hereford being the prime example) and Kiddy did it tonnes of times as they chased you down.

I can't remember whether it was 27 goals or 27 points we scored/gained in the last 15 minutes of games last season, which was ridiculous. Our Easter Bank Holiday summed our season up in that respect. 1-0 down at home against Torquay in the 87th minute - won 2-1, then 1-0 down away at Gateshead in injury time - won 2-1.

Our late goals thing seems to be a deliberate way that we play matches as much as anything else. The first half in our games is usually incredibly dull (think we’re still the only EFL team not to have conceded in the opening 15 mins of a match) and the second half really exciting. Not sure if it’s just superior fitness or what.
We're the same. In most of our games that I've seen this season our second half performances are a step up from the first, just like on Saturday.
 

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