League 1 General Chat Thread

[Casey]

Our striker, Tola Showunmi, has received a 3 match ban for an incident in the Cambridge game that was not seen by the officials.

There's a video reporting to show the incident, which if truly is the incident, is very tame. The Cambridge player is fouling Showunmi (in the box) and Showunmi shoves him away and they both fall over.

We only had 3 fit players on the bench Tueday and now we are another one down!

Casey

 

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

Move over Wrexham, it's our turn to fire propaganda at the Septics!

Cambridge United series to air with US broadcaster CBS Sports | Cambridge United F.C.

www.cambridgeunited.com

 

[Conker]

It looks like Mansfield will have around three/four 3pm Saturday kick-offs this season in 2025, I'm really skeptical if the added income from Sky is enough to offset the damage from this long term.

 

[dannylad01]

It looks like Mansfield will have around three/four 3pm Saturday kick-offs this season in 2025, I'm really skeptical if the added income from Sky is enough to offset the damage from this long term.

Our CEO did a business in football podcast recently. Said that the club will be looking at the cost benefit of the Sky deal at the end of the season. He said that Sky moving our game against Wrexham wasn't a big deal as it was always going to sell out as a derby. However, moving our game at home against Exeter back in October to a Thursday night would have had a hit on the attendance and spend in and around the ground on the match day.

 

[Conker]

Our CEO did a business in football podcast recently. Said that the club will be looking at the cost benefit of the Sky deal at the end of the season. He said that Sky moving our game against Wrexham wasn't a big deal as it was always going to sell out as a derby. However, moving our game at home against Exeter back in Pctober to a Thursday night would have had a hit on the attendance and spend in and around the ground on the match day.

I think we will get quite a few clubs really unhappy with it over the next few years!

 

[Conker]

So with Orient calling saturday off due to international call-ups and Peterborough getting in the Dominos Vertu Checkatrade final yesterday was our third and final 3pm Saturday kick off at Field Mill.

 

[ForzaCounty]

We've had Touray (The Gambia) and Hills (England U20) turn down international appearances this weekend so they can play at Wrexham. We're so big.

 

[Casey]

Our one and only keeper has been called up for Ghana.

As he is the only international call up we cannot get the game called off. When we play Gas in our relegation six pointer Saturday we will, I hope, have an emergency loan keeper.

Why have we only got one keeper? We crocked 3 others this season (including the one Bolton fans said was time wasting). The last one straight after the transfer window closed in January.

Casey

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Our one and only keeper has been called up for Ghana.

As he is the only international call up we cannot get the game called off. When we play Gas in our relegation six pointer Saturday we will, I hope, have an emergency loan keeper.

Why have we only got one keeper? We crocked 3 others this season (including the one Bolton fans said was time wasting). The last one straight after the transfer window closed in January.

Casey

Ffs emergency loans usually have a blinder against us, although last Saturday Lincoln could have played without one. Sotiriou will also be away on Int duty. Are players able to pull out these days, thought a relegation battle would be more important

 

[White horse]

The accounts have been published today for 23/24. Lost 11.2 million and the wage bill is 16 million. Really shows how Evatt underperformed. The good news was that the revenue was up 10%.

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

The accounts have been published today for 23/24. Lost 11.2 million and the wage bill is 16 million. Really shows how Evatt underperformed. The good news was that the revenue was up 10%.

Without looking, what was your turnover? I know it seems like I am comparing dick sizes as our turnover blows everyone out the water from our stint in L2, but i'd like to think Bolton is a big club massively under achieving to where I think they should be and should be quite high?

 

[White horse]

Without looking, what was your turnover? I know it seems like I am comparing dick sizes as our turnover blows everyone out the water from our stint in L2, but i'd like to think Bolton is a big club massively under achieving to where I think they should be and should be quite high?

It was as below, won't be as much as Wrexham with all the money from Netflix and the money from Tik Toc and United Airlines etc but good at this level.

Bolton Wanderers Football Club has reported increased revenues in the financial year ending 30 June 2024 for the third season in succession.

Consolidated group turnover has seen revenue climb from £19.4m to £21.3m during that period, representing a 10% rise.

 

[dannylad01]

Those figures for Bolton and Wrexham show just how far behind Shrewsbury are financially. No way we can compete at that level. Salary costs in our accounts for last season were £5.4m, half of Wrexham's and a third of Boltons. On top of that there has been further cuts to the playing budget this season, hence the reason we're languishing at the bottom.

The chairman can't afford to put money in, or doesn't want to as he's barely had to do it in the previous 29 years as he's run a tight ship and kept back cash reserves following the sale of the old ground. A combination of Covid, lack of Premier League funds and overspending in 2022/23 under Cotterill has left no money in the bank. It now transpires that the prospective takeover is off, so no surprise that Ainsworth walked out, even if the way he did it left a lot to he desired. It's becoming more difficult to compete at this level without significant external backing.

Only looks like another season of struggle in the league below next year.

 

[IzzyFook]

It was as below, won't be as much as Wrexham with all the money from Netflix and the money from Tik Toc and United Airlines etc but good at this level.

Wrexham have never had a penny off Netflix...

 

[denzel ecfc]

Our accounts have been published. Slight operating profit though as always dependent on income from player sales, this time around 3mn.
Wages up 1.1mn from previous year, suspect they are only going one way.
How come with all the revenue streams 30 or 40 players can basically put every club in the red?

 

[White horse]

Wrexham have never had a penny off Netflix...

Alright, whatever channel the documentary is aired on, i would think most of Wrexham's revenue comes from sponsorship and the documentary. It's unprecedented for a lower division club. Sky TV money is not too different between a L1 or a L2 club, the money explodes upwards once you get into the Championship. I think you get 6 million more than a L1 club. It's probably more now. But even with that i don;t think some championship clubs will generate as much as Wrexham are now,

 

[masi51]

Those figures are 23/24 when we off the top of my head we spent 750k on Collins in the winter window and i think we paid some decent loan fees with the likes of Maghoma. We was in the top three all season with a crowd average over 21k......Played at Wembley.....That loss is staggering.


This season we have spent about 4m on transfers in and about 1m in transfers out....Overhauled our Management Structure and i am not talking just Evatt and his team
Schumacher will not come cheap and his back room team seem top notch, add to that we got rid of our DOF Chris Markham shortly after Schumacher came in then head hunted Standard Liege Dof Fergal Harkin who has completely turned that club around and was also wanted by Norwich...He will certainly not come cheap.
Next years figures will be frightning

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Alright, whatever channel the documentary is aired on, i would think most of Wrexham's revenue comes from sponsorship and the documentary. It's unprecedented for a lower division club. Sky TV money is not too different between a L1 or a L2 club, the money explodes upwards once you get into the Championship. I think you get 6 million more than a L1 club. It's probably more now. But even with that i don;t think some championship clubs will generate as much as Wrexham are now,

You're right, we earned more than about 6 or 7 clubs in the championship, which IIRC it was some club like Wednesday, which is incredible.

Our sponsorship from non league jumped from about £1m to £13m with United Airlines, HP, Expedia etc. Something like 52% of revenue comes from north America. How any club would turn that down is crazy!

 

[Master D]

Alright, whatever channel the documentary is aired on, i would think most of Wrexham's revenue comes from sponsorship and the documentary. It's unprecedented for a lower division club. Sky TV money is not too different between a L1 or a L2 club, the money explodes upwards once you get into the Championship. I think you get 6 million more than a L1 club. It's probably more now. But even with that i don;t think some championship clubs will generate as much as Wrexham are now,

Club don't get a single penny from the documentary and never have.

 

[EnglishRed]

Alright, whatever channel the documentary is aired on, i would think most of Wrexham's revenue comes from sponsorship and the documentary. It's unprecedented for a lower division club. Sky TV money is not too different between a L1 or a L2 club, the money explodes upwards once you get into the Championship. I think you get 6 million more than a L1 club. It's probably more now. But even with that i don;t think some championship clubs will generate as much as Wrexham are now,

As the others have said we don't get any money from the documentary. But it does give us huge global exposure which is why we could attract 13m of sponsorship in League two.

Our revenue this year is likely to be higher than the 26m of last year- and if we go up it'll be higher again, especially when you factor in the TV money. We will probably have a revenue that is only less than the sides getting parachute payments from the Prem.

This is why the people constantly saying we won't have the finances to compete in the Championship haven't grasped the way our finances work. It isn't just a pair of rich guys ploughing their money into the club- in fact it's not that at all. It's also not a model that can be easily copied- the only real question mark is how long it can carry on for. Which is why growing a global brand- which will make the whole thing sustainable in the middle to long term- is such a big focus.

 

[IzzyFook]

As the others have said we don't get any money from the documentary. But it does give us huge global exposure which is why we could attract 13m of sponsorship in League two.

Our revenue this year is likely to be higher than the 26m of last year- and if we go up it'll be higher again, especially when you factor in the TV money. We will probably have a revenue that is only less than the sides getting parachute payments from the Prem.

This is why the people constantly saying we won't have the finances to compete in the Championship haven't grasped the way our finances work. It isn't just a pair of rich guys ploughing their money into the club- in fact it's not that at all. It's also not a model that can be easily copied- the only real question mark is how long it can carry on for. Which is why growing a global brand- which will make the whole thing sustainable in the middle to long term- is such a big focus.

The thing I found unreal was that on the sponsorship income, Stōk Cold Brew Coffee paid all that money for the naming rights for...(what was it...2yrs?)...and it's not even SOLD in the UK....

 

[dannylad01]

The thing I found unreal was that on the sponsorship income, Stōk Cold Brew Coffee paid all that money for the naming rights for...(what was it...2yrs?)...and it's not even SOLD in the UK....

The model that you've got over the border there is unique for the lower leagues of "English" football. Rob and Ryan are successful businessmen and have found the formula for you. As you say, getting sponsorship from Stok when they don't sell in the UK is impressive.

The test will be when you plateau and the Disney show ends or interest in it falls away. As businessmen I'd guess they'll sell up when they feel they can maximise their return. It'll then be a case of what level you're at, as the big sponsors are likely to fall away without the US market.

It's an extreme version of how all football clubs should be run, based on sponsorship and other revenues, not rich owners chucking good money after bad.

 

[IzzyFook]

The model that you've got over the border there is unique for the lower leagues of "English" football. Rob and Ryan are successful businessmen and have found the formula for you. As you say, getting sponsorship from Stok when they don't sell in the UK is impressive.

The test will be when you plateau and the Disney show ends or interest in it falls away. As businessmen I'd guess they'll sell up when they feel they can maximise their return. It'll then be a case of what level you're at, as the big sponsors are likely to fall away without the US market.

It's an extreme version of how all football clubs should be run, based on sponsorship and other revenues, not rich owners chucking good money after bad.

Maybe, but both have got that involved with football as a sport since the takeover, that they're talking of being involved in some capacity for many many years...they've been true to their word in everything they've said and promised, that I can well believe it, but only time will tell.