Matchday Thread Saturday 27/08/16

[Back in the DHSS]

I think 3G pitches are great and have come along way since the astro turf pitches of Deepdale and Loftus road. As with grass pitches some are better than others. Grass is still king,but with technological advancements 3G, 4G etc is the future. The positives outweigh the negatives.

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

I greatly prefer grass, I've never smoked 3G.


(Full credit to Only Fools and Horses)

 

[JaredSUFC]

Or you could have spent some more money and effort growing a decent grass surface like everybody else manages to.

As bigluke said, we had one game postponed and that was called off after an hour as there was about 2 inches of water resting on the surface which all came down in a 30 minute downpour. (It was Welling not Bromley).

On a different note, I have LUMPED ON us to beat Torquay at 13/10

If you had read my post properly then you would have noticed we had. For years. 3G is an investment

 

[JaredSUFC]

Is there any stats on the advantages of having a home artificial pitch?

Both ourselves and Maidstone had better away records last season

 

[Railway Blue]

We are unbeaten away since nov 24th i have a funny feeling southport will end this despite it being a virtual home game for us

Don't be so fucking negative about your team. You'll piss this league (hope so and those village team, veggie bastards don't).

 

[FGRJC]

Don't be so fucking negative about your team. You'll piss this league (hope so and those village team, veggie bastards don't).

Wish I didn't give a fiver to support your club when you let it die now. Hopefully you'll get relegated this season

 

[Railway Blue]

Wish I didn't give a fiver to support your club when you let it die now. Hopefully you'll get relegated this season

You give a fiver to Steven Vaughan .... more fool you hahahaha.

 

[Pablosammy]

Chuckled at this, one of Lincoln, Macc or Torquay must be responsible!

http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/...ED__Doswell_loving_the_digs_____justapubteam/

Well, that's not very nice of them! Who's being billy big time?

Wish I didn't give a fiver to support your club when you let it die now. Hopefully you'll get relegated this season

I'm no chester fan, but sometimes a club going under is out of the fans' control when you have a total arse at the helm. Would you say the same to a cashier in BHS? Did they 'let' BHS go under?

Whereas choosing to support a corporate advertising hoarding is completely within your control. No offence meant to the decent FGR fans (I'm even warming to Chris!), but I couldn't do it myself.

 

[Railway Blue]

The sooner the club died the sooner we could get rid of the criminal SV. Extreme measure, but the only one.take. Our club HAD to die in able to LIVE again. You'll understand that one day when Swampy's control freakery sends him beyond the pale.

 

[Mark kavanagh]

The biggest disgrace surrounding chester is the lack of council support. Is it true the local council vetoed your bus tour around chester after you won this league a few years back?

 

[Pablosammy]

I'm glad Chester were reborn. It IS the same club, despite what people will try and say - the fans are the same, the ground is the same, the culture is the same. I'm just glad Vaughan didn't end up at Tranmere, as he so nearly did.

 

[FGRJC]

Well, that's not very nice of them! Who's being billy big time?

I'm no chester fan, but sometimes a club going under is out of the fans' control when you have a total arse at the helm. Would you say the same to a cashier in BHS? Did they 'let' BHS go under?

Whereas choosing to support a corporate advertising hoarding is completely within your control. No offence meant to the decent FGR fans (I'm even warming to Chris!), but I couldn't do it myself.

Who shops at BHS?

 

[Railway Blue]

The biggest disgrace surrounding chester is the lack of council support. Is it true the local council vetoed your bus tour around chester after you won this league a few years back?

Probably, but the council give us the keys back to the stadium when a dodgy Danish Consortium tried to get it back in 2010. The leader of the Tory block at Chester, Mike Jones, although a Tory is a Legend's Lounge ST holder and his wife and 3 of his daughters are also regular attendees. Chester bucked the trend in the last election and voted in the Labour guy, who is also a supporter and has pledged his support for Non League football in parliamentary matters. We also now have a Labour Council. The local Housing Trust, which I haven't a clue about are good sponsorship partners and provided us with an award-winning groundsman, who has sadly moved onwards and upwards. The problem with the local authority and club is that Morrison Shand, who built our Subuteo stadium in 1991 and made themselves a mint always reneged on their guarantee for the £20K annual rent/rates for the ground. I only discovered all of this after we reformed. Had we had the nous to use our ownership of the ground (on a prime site) back in the late 1980s things may have been different, but we've had a succession of self-serving owners/chairmen including Barnes, Gutterman, Mad Terry and Steven Vaughan.

 

[Bigluke]

No one said anything about finance though, and The Boss specifically said "it undoubtedly gives you an advantage for home games", so how well we do at home compared to away is highly relevant to the topic, no matter how much you protest

But finances for most clubs who lay an artificial pitch do play a huge part in the decision making process. Its simply not just a case of getting first team matches on, which is one obvious advantage. For many clubs it saves a fortune on the hire of training pitches, especially and more so if a club has a thriving youth set up where the usage then goes up and up.
It can be rented out at any time of the year, and not just for football but a variety of different interests, and you can also rent it out midweek, be it five a side leagues, corporate matches and the like, and though from what I have read, the 3G pitches seem to require a £25,000 maintenance budget, the flip side of that is one doesn't need the capital purchases normally associated with grass pitches, and the biggest one of all is that in a lot if not all cases, if by having it installed you bring into the equation involvement of and within the community, it will go a long way to ensuring third party funding is acquired, ie football foundation, lottery and the like.

That said I still hate the stuff!

 

[Bigluke]

Who shops at BHS?

I am tomorrow!
80% off....enuff said, will have to find one as we drive down to Torquay though as they shut theirs last week apparently

 

[Back in the DHSS]

Who shops at BHS?

The FGR ultras by the looks of them!

 

[Tom Fgr]

Do these pitches hurt your knees when slide tackling? That is all I'd worry about

 

[Chris FGR]

You give a fiver to Steven Vaughan .... more fool you hahahaha.

We actually donated to your supporters trust members who turned up the night your team didn't, which cost our club who were very hard up at the time money and very nearly got us relegated. You also got free drinks and free food (it was proper stuff back then too).

Afterwards your fans were full of praise for us, appreciating community spirit amongst small clubs etc. Granted it was pre-Ecotricity/Vince but we're still the same club and supporters which you now seem to hate. Funny really.

 

[Greenacres]

Afterwards your fans were full of praise for us, appreciating community spirit amongst small clubs etc. Granted it was pre-Ecotricity/Vince but we're still the same club and supporters which you now seem to hate. Funny really.

Yeah, our fans seem to have short pockets and long memories...pity that for so many it seems to be the other way round!

I have stuck my hand in my pocket on a number of occasions, to help fans of clubs in trouble and on one occasion a player who had suffered a career ending injury, and wouldn't hesitate to do so again.

 

[Pablosammy]

Who shops at BHS?

They did reasonable light fittings.

 

[Chris FGR]

Whereas choosing to support a corporate advertising hoarding is completely within your control. No offence meant to the decent FGR fans (I'm even warming to Chris!), but I couldn't do it myself.

No it isn't, unless you're happy to just give up on your club. Most fans don't get to chose who buys/owns their club.

Don't agree with everything DV has done since taking over at all, but gotta say on the whole he's done a lot of good for the club. Even if things got really bad though it would be very difficult to just walk away from the club I've supported since I was a kid.

 

[Blue Lion]

Well, that's not very nice of them! Who's being billy big time?

As much as I'd love them to be talking about us being the 'big ex-league team', I kind of assume it's not us! Although that doesn't mean to say that there weren't a lot of our fans/staff complaining about the conditions when we went there, not that that's an excuse for us to play as poorly as we did.

 

[Boz]

Think Rovers will lose our 100% record, but remain unbeaten after the Merseyrail derby.

 

[Leewilson]

I hate TV games. We won't win. I predict a bore draw.

 

[JSMITH083]

Do these pitches hurt your knees when slide tackling? That is all I'd worry about

Not dissimilar from a carpet burn I don't think.

 

[Luke Imp]

Best place to park at Macc tomorrow?

 

[slaphead]

Best place to park at Macc tomorrow?

Get there early enough and there's a small but free carpark right behind the away terrace. Then a 15 minute walk to a decent pub, or pop round the corner into the club bar where there is decent cheap food. Love Macc., one of my favourite awaydays.

 

[Railway Blue]

Who shops at BHS?

I always used BHS in Chester. It was a great short cut from Tesco car park to Eastgate Street.

 

[Railway Blue]

We actually donated to your supporters trust members who turned up the night your team didn't, which cost our club who were very hard up at the time money and very nearly got us relegated. You also got free drinks and free food (it was proper stuff back then too).

Afterwards your fans were full of praise for us, appreciating community spirit amongst small clubs etc. Granted it was pre-Ecotricity/Vince but we're still the same club and supporters which you now seem to hate. Funny really.

Thank you Chris. I believe your support was immensely appreciated back then, but I'm afraid I was boycotting and only heard the club was reforming after the meeting in Chester's iconic Guildhall. Vaughan described it as a load of losers meeting in a Bingo Hall, or some such tosh.

My dislike of FGR stems mainly from a horrible Gloucester rugby thug who was mascerading as a steward. I think the previously mentioned Mike Jones, saved me from being arrested because I was about to thump the evil bastard.

 

[Swedes]

Think Rovers will lose our 100% record, but remain unbeaten after the Merseyrail derby.

Merseyrail derby? That's what we call our match with Chester, given that it's the full length of Merseyrail to get there. The Bad Wool or Plastic Scouse derby is probably more appropriate.