Millwall vs Crewe Alexandra

[JJ1532]

Looking at the highlights several times, I thought the 1st and 2nd penalties were fair. Archer goes sliding in, you're asking for trouble. Probably wasn't contact with Cooper, but why should he stay on his feet when the keeper makes it easy for him? I thought that was nailed on tbf, keeper made a right hash of it.

2nd, again I thought looked pretty fair, Nugent makes a clumsy challenge on Webster. Yeah its soft and you don't see them given very often, but that was a penalty by the letter of the law.

3rd however was highly contentious. How can the lino spot the ball supposedly hitting Turton's hand from 40+ yards away? Crowd gave that I feel. As I said before, I think Turton's reaction was telling. He never shows emotion, so for him to head across to the lino and give him verbals is unheard of. He is a lot of things, but dishonest isn't one of them. If it wasn't handball, hopefully justice was done with that miss.

 

[valefan16]

From what i heard on P&G whilst driving home from Wigan the third penalty was laughable according to the commentary team reviewing it.

Good result for Crewe as per the Wigan game but as the fans are saying its wins needed now in the bigger picture.

 

[Freethinker]

3rd however was highly contentious. How can the lino spot the ball supposedly hitting Turton's hand from 40+ yards away? Crowd gave that I feel. As I said before, I think Turton's reaction was telling. He never shows emotion, so for him to head across to the lino and give him verbals is unheard of. He is a lot of things, but dishonest isn't one of them. If it wasn't handball, hopefully justice was done with that miss.

From what i heard on P&G whilst driving home from Wigan the third penalty was laughable according to the commentary team reviewing it.

I saw it clear as day from the upper tier behind the goal and shouted handball along with several hundred others all independently and simultaneously. Usually a good sign that there has been contact between hand and ball.

The Lino isn't allowed to be any closer to the center strip of the pitch from the touchline!

 

[JJ1532]

I saw it clear as day from the upper tier behind the goal and shouted handball along with several hundred others all independently and simultaneously. Usually a good sign that there has been contact between hand and ball.

Amazing. You don't honestly believe that do you?

 

[joethegill]

I would argue that it's entirely possible that sections of the crowd had a better view than both the linesman and tv cameras. Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it a possibility. Whether or not it was an intentional handball is up for debate though (IMO it wasn't a pen).

 

[TimeyWimey]

It does look like it half touches Turton's arm as he chests it but fecking hell it's soft, one that wouldn't be given 9 times out of 10.

The first of Millwall's is pretty blatant though. Couldn't see anything wrong on the day (from the other end of the pitch) but that body check from Nugent, wtf.

 

[Jockney]

I saw it clear as day from the upper tier behind the goal and shouted handball along with several hundred others all independently and simultaneously. Usually a good sign that there has been contact between hand and ball.

The Lino isn't allowed to be any closer to the center strip of the pitch from the touchline!

we appeal for anything and everything. we are what we are, but we're rarely ever objectively right.

 

[Freethinker]

we appeal for anything and everything. we are what we are, but we're rarely ever objectively right.

Nah, you get a smallish shout for speculative appeals, not most of the stand and all the players in the box.

 

[JJ1532]

Nah, you get a smallish shout for speculative appeals, not most of the stand and all the players in the box.

Again, you don't honestly believe that do you?

What about the fact that most of our players near the incident all confronted the lino over his decision. What about the player who allegedly handballed it? He didn't think it was a penalty. Why not take his opinion of it?

 

[inetmktvn20]

Millwall 0 Crewe 2

I agree.

 

[Millwall_Matt]

I agree.

Care to put any money on it?

 

[Freethinker]

Again, you don't honestly believe that do you?

What about the fact that most of our players near the incident all confronted the lino over his decision. What about the player who allegedly handballed it? He didn't think it was a penalty. Why not take his opinion of it?

Because I was an eye witness to it!

 

[JJ1532]

No, no, you aren't getting what I'm driving at. The fact that you think just because a bunch of fans all shout for a penalty(late in the game that would have put your team ahead and would have probably won you the game), that makes the call more legitimate is bad enough.

But what I'm saying is, if 7k fans shouting in unison holds a certain amount of weight, then how much weight does our defender's opinion hold? Way more I'd suggest, given he was the one accused of handballing it. He was the closest to it. But of course, we don't take players word for it. They are dishonest and lie about these things. But if we don't trust players, why does this not apply to fans as well? Oh wait, it does. So we can throw out your ridiculous "we all shouted for it, must mean something" argument. It doesn't hold any weight, at all. You can kid delude yourself into thinking that just because fans shout for something, it makes it more valid, but thats all you are doing. Deluding yourself.

 

[T.A]

In my experience if thousands of Millwall fans shout for something you fucking let them have it. No questions asked.