New laws

[Blue Lion]

and get rid of that stupid " take Gkick from either side of goal " rule .........whoever proposed / seconded and majority-agreed to pass that self-defeating time-wasting rule must've thought it was a no-brainer..............................indeed it was, implemented by people with no brains at all !

Might be wrong here but I don't think that's actually a rule, it just sort of happens.

 

[Chris FGR]

Taking the ball into the corner should be given as obstruction and the offender plus his manager booked. If it or any other time wasting tactic happens again with a different player, they get a yellow and their manager gets sent to the stands.

If a player receives cards for time wasting in three separate games, they should be banned from football for a year.

Also in the case of a keeper going down injured, the same rules should apply as with outfield players, and he should have to go off to get treatment while the game restarts, and only be waved back on at the halfway line when he's ready.

Wanna purge all this bastarding time wasting shite.

 

[JJ1532]

Taking the ball into the corner should be given as obstruction and the offender plus his manager booked. If it or any other time wasting tactic happens again with a different player, they get a yellow and their manager gets sent to the stands.

If a team receives cards for time wasting in three separate games, their manager should be banned from football for a year.

Also in the case of a keeper going down injured, the same rules should apply as with outfield players, and he should have to go off to get treatment while the game restarts, and only be waved back on at the halfway line when he's ready.

Wanna purge all this bastarding time wasting shite.

What about hogging the ball after a goal goes in? Guillotine? Or feigning injury? Firing squad?

You don't honestly believe the bolded one do you? What happens if a keeper gets clattered on his head, has blood pouring out. He goes off for stitches/glue/bandages etc. Meanwhile, the game goes on and the opposition knock in 3-4 whilst he's out of his net. That seems really fair.

Some of these measures you are suggesting are insane and would never get implemented.

 

[Chris FGR]

If a keeper gets badly injured he should instantly be subbed off anyway, particularly if it's a head injury.

I don't see how booking players for time wasting whilst also punishing their manager who presumably issued the instructions is overly extreme. Unless you're happy to pay to watch around 20 minutes of time wasting every game? It's like a disease and it needs to be eliminated.

 

[JJ1532]

If a keeper gets badly injured he should instantly be subbed off anyway, particularly if it's a head injury.

I don't see how booking players for time wasting whilst also punishing their manager who presumably issued the instructions is overly extreme. Unless you're happy to pay to watch around 20 minutes of time wasting every game?

Everyone who bemoans time wasting is a hypocrite. Everyone. Why?

Because every single team does it. And you know what, if my team is leading 1-0 with 5 minutes to go in a crucial game, I have absolutely zero issue with my team running to the corner. There are some practices I hate, like feigning injuries, sure. But banning managers for a year because their players took the ball to the corner in 3 separate matches is a crazy amount of overkill.

Oh and in my goalie scenario, all 3 subs have been made and the goalie will be ok to continue once he's had a bandage wrapped around said cut. Should he still go off and see his team concede 3-4 for something that wasn't their fault?

 

[Chris FGR]

I've always said an extra sub should be allowed in the case of a bad injury to a goalie. If that rule applied it would sort that problem out. If your not badly injured you don't need a sit down mid game for treatment, it's hardly like keepers are doing much running.

I'm not a hypocrite, as things stand I don't mind us time wasting because everyone does it, but I want to see strict laws introduced to stop all teams, including us, doing it. Fair enough no?

Btw I changed my mind on banning the manager bit, as it might make players who don't like their boss intentionally get them banned. Better to punish the player, 3 cards in 3 separate games for time wasting = 1 year ban. That would stop them doing it.

 

[JJ1532]

Time wasting will always happen I'm afraid. You make one rule, teams will find new ways to circumvent it. I think you just need to come to peace with the fact time wasting is a part of the game, because developing this much anger towards it will only lessen your enjoyment.

 

[Stringy]

I've no problem with teams running the ball into the corner. It's frustrating but a legitimate tactic. The problem for a lot of teams when they are losing is that they make poor decisions. I always see players shooting from poor positions when they feel they are running out of time.

 

[shoddycollins]

Running to the corner is perfectly fine. I see nothing wrong with a team who are protecting a lead prioritising keeping possession and keeping the ball away from dangerous areas. It's within the rules and I don't think you could possibly write a rule that would prevent it that wasn't also dangerously vague and hard to interpret.

Back in the early days of association football, in the late 1800's many in England considered passing the ball to be almost cheating and totally unsportsmanlike. If you had the ball it was your responsibility, nay duty, to bust a gut trying to score.

To deceive your opponents by kicking the ball to someone else thus bypassing their defence; being cowardly and unwilling to put your head down and run at the goal yourself... no place for it in the game they would say! Tactics were something for cowardly and decietful Johnny Foreigners, like the cursed Scots, not the brave and honest Englishmen who would shout 'for god and country' point towards the part of the goal he was going for and then with a 'huzzah' attempt to break through the 10-man defence himself while his teammates followed ready to take up the mantle if he was killed.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Might be wrong here but I don't think that's actually a rule, it just sort of happens.

It is, the goal kick can be taken anywhere within the goal area (six yard box) irrespective of the side the ball left the field of play.
Corners have to be taken from the side nearest to where the ball left the field of play.

 

[Gladders]

Best way to stop time wasting is to make sure you are winning!

 

[Blue Lion]

It is, the goal kick can be taken anywhere within the goal area (six yard box) irrespective of the side the ball left the field of play.
Corners have to be taken from the side nearest to where the ball left the field of play.

Yeah, might have misread the original post but that's what I was getting at - it can be taken from anywhere in the 6 yard box.

As for the new rule for leaving the pitch, once all refs have actually remembered to implement it every single time, it should help to reduce time wasting a bit so I'm all for it. Gonna miss a good old scrap at a contested drop ball though.

 

[Si Robin]

Best way to stop time wasting is to make sure you are winning!

is the correct answer.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Yeah, might have misread the original post but that's what I was getting at - it can be taken from anywhere in the 6 yard box.

As for the new rule for leaving the pitch, once all refs have actually remembered to implement it every single time, it should help to reduce time wasting a bit so I'm all for it. Gonna miss a good old scrap at a contested drop ball though.

Remember at Fratton Park Christmas 2017, contested drop ball between John Joe O'Toole and ex Cobbler Danny Rose 46th minute. JJOT missed the ball and broke Danny Rose's leg!!! Still lost 3-1!!!

 

[northstandexile]

Best way to stop time wasting is to stop the clock when ball goes out of play.

In order to stop being at midweek games until midnight, then 30 minutes of actual play each half instead of 45.

 

[RebornKirtonRed]

Everyone who bemoans time wasting is a hypocrite. Everyone. Why?

Because every single team does it. And you know what, if my team is leading 1-0 with 5 minutes to go in a crucial game, I have absolutely zero issue with my team running to the corner. There are some practices I hate, like feigning injuries, sure. But banning managers for a year because their players took the ball to the corner in 3 separate matches is a crazy amount of overkill.

Oh and in my goalie scenario, all 3 subs have been made and the goalie will be ok to continue once he's had a bandage wrapped around said cut. Should he still go off and see his team concede 3-4 for something that wasn't their fault?

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Nope - keeper goes off , gets treatment, down to ten, outfield player goes in goal til keeper gets allowed back on...............what's wrong with that ?

 

[JJ1532]

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Nope - keeper goes off , gets treatment, down to ten, outfield player goes in goal til keeper gets allowed back on...............what's wrong with that ?

Erm....where to start? Keeper gets an injury. He's down for 30 seconds. Physio runs on and treats him for 2 minutes. Ref then demands, by this new rule, that a new player must temporarily go in goal whilst said goalie goes off the pitch for further treatment. Yet more time is wasted whilst a player volunteers and a pair of gloves in his size is found, plus is found a spare blank goalie shirt. And oh look, a good 5 minutes of time have been wasted already.

So what's wrong with your rule? Well, no matter which way you slice it, it simply wouldn't work.

 

[Chris FGR]

Best way to stop time wasting is to make sure you are winning!

That doesn't stop it though. It just means your team will be time wasting instead of the opposition time wasting.

Why do people want to pay good money to watch that instead of 90 minutes of proper action?

 

[Stringy]

That doesn't stop it though. It just means your team will be time wasting instead of the opposition time wasting.

Why do people want to pay good money to watch that instead of 90 minutes of proper action?

Mmm, I appreciate time wasting as part of the tactical battle, more so if it's late in the game. Appreciate it's frustrating when on the receiving end.