October

[JJH]

I don't often read opposition fans forums before we play them but last month I did have a gaze at Reading's and it was brilliant. They were all so optimistic and arrogant, made it even more sweeter when Flint banged one in late on.

 

[SF_]

I had a glance at the Sunderland forum on Friday and despite being sat in the relegation zone their arrogance is unreal. Our team is supposedly 'toilet' because we don't have ancient ex-prem players on £30k+ a week.

 

[Madejski]

Fans forums are all very bias. The whole reason they exist is to talk about your club. Hence why I prefer to only post on here and can get the opinions of many other clubs.

I don't think I've ever read a fans forum that wasn't hugely positive and up themselves other than Coventry and Blackpool's which are understandable

 

[SF_]

Blackpool fans are usually up each other.

 

[City169]

Burton (H) - 2-0 win.
Leeds (H) - 1-1 draw.
Palace (H) - 2-0 win.
Sunderland (A) - 2-2 draw.
Fulham (A) - 3-1 loss.

5/12 and a cup win, Not awful. But a co,down after a fantastic September.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Fans forums are all very bias. The whole reason they exist is to talk about your club. Hence why I prefer to only post on here and can get the opinions of many other clubs.

I don't think I've ever read a fans forum that wasn't hugely positive and up themselves other than Coventry and Blackpool's which are understandable

Agreed, I've tried a couple of times on VillaTalk, it's a nightmare, and frankly, dull to only talk about Villa all of the time.

 

[City169]

Agreed, I've tried a couple of times on VillaTalk, it's a nightmare, and frankly, dull to only talk about Villa all of the time.

It didn't go down well when I said on there that Kodjia was selfish and didn't grasp the concept of staying onside (when he was linked with you).
I did also point out his good points, but thought I'd say the bad as well.

Now he is being criticised on there for exactly those things.

 

[SaMcRo]

It didn't go down well when I said on there that Kodjia was selfish and didn't grasp the concept of staying onside (when he was linked with you).
I did also point out his good points, but thought I'd say the bad as well.

How dare you say bad things about King Kodjia, he is clearly the most complete player in the history of football!

j/k

I personally don't have a problem with people being smug (to a certain degree). I just find it funny when people are smug after 3 or 4 games of the season. Any team can win 2 or 3 on the bounce and any team can go on a long winless streak. If you are at the top going into the new year then fine, be confident about things. I would be.

 

[MagpieBee]

People were predicting us to go down ffs, saying our foreign nobodies would flop in the Championship. Bearing in mind how things have turned out so far I wouldn't blame our fans for being smug to be honest.

Also since you are generalizing Wolves fans, what is so smug about my predictions in this thread?

Did anyone really predict you to go down?

I saw people saying your foreign guys might not pan out and you'd be mid-table (which could still easily happen), but I don't remember seeing anyone saying you'd get relegated? (could be wrong but I don't think anyone did)

 

[SF_]

Did anyone really predict you to go down?

I saw people saying your foreign guys might not pan out and you'd be mid-table (which could still easily happen), but I don't remember seeing anyone saying you'd get relegated? (could be wrong but I don't think anyone did)

Yeah, don't think anyone did on here, would have been pretty stupid after they just forked out £15m on one of Porto's best players.

Few people thought they would be underwhelming mid-table like Villa last year but didn't see anyone predicting bottom three.

 

[MagpieBee]

Fans forums are all very bias. The whole reason they exist is to talk about your club. Hence why I prefer to only post on here and can get the opinions of many other clubs.

I don't think I've ever read a fans forum that wasn't hugely positive and up themselves other than Coventry and Blackpool's which are understandable

On ours you get absolutely crucified if you aren't entirely 100% happy with what is going on, and suggesting we change anything or do anything slightly differently, or that anyone is underperforming, means you aren't backing the project, and don't understand what the club is doing. It does my effing head in. Annoying that for a club of our size its pretty much the only place to get any news, otherwise I wouldn't read it at all.

On the flip side, if you go onto any of the Facebook pages about Brentford, the only comments on there are people who think the sky is falling, everyone should be sacked and our owner is a dick for not splashing out £500m every season. Equally mindless.

Much prefer hanging with you folk. Shame the board is less busy than it used to be, but it's still better than any of the other options.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Did anyone really predict you to go down?

I saw people saying your foreign guys might not pan out and you'd be mid-table (which could still easily happen), but I don't remember seeing anyone saying you'd get relegated? (could be wrong but I don't think anyone did)

Ciderhead + Lance Stoe, and a couple of others predicted us to be in a relegatiom battle. Still could happen.

In all fairness I predicted Birmingham to be in the playoffs and Sheff Utd/Preston to struggle

 

[MagpieBee]

Ciderhead + Lance Stoe, and a couple of others predicted us to be in a relegatiom battle. Still could happen.

In all fairness I predicted Birmingham to be in the playoffs and Sheff Utd/Preston to struggle

Fair enough!

Back on topic:

Millwall (H) - Win
Sunderland (H) - Draw
Preston (A) - Loss

4 Points keeps us moving in the right direction, could easily see this becoming 7, or 2.

 

[HertsWolf]

It's amusing how smug the Wolves fans are this season. We'll see how things look in a few months, eh?

Smug? Pot and kettle? Your claims about Villa pre-season were the only thing that seems smug recently, tbh. If you look back at the commentary made by the three of us active Wolves fans here, it has been a mixture of excitement and concern (for FFP) before the season and perhaps somewhat overly pessimistic predictions (I got the loss to Blades right). Our bright start a few years ago under Solbakken fell to pieces in November and we were relegated into League One: you may not be aware of that (because you were in the PL then and possibly didn't know there were divisions below) but most non-teenage Wolves fans are acutely aware of how the wheels of our bus tend to detach in November and February each season.

So smug? No. Excitement at seeing some of the most entertaining football our club has seen, possibly in its history? Yes.

My comment about the amusement at predictions is that, by recollection, the majority of predictions in this forum has favoured the opposition. My gut feel is that the same probably holds true for predictions made by opponents of Leeds, Cardiff and Sheffield United. On the other hand, I suspect all us Wolves fans predicted a victory at home against Bristol City.

 

[HertsWolf]

Ciderhead + Lance Stoe, and a couple of others predicted us to be in a relegatiom battle. Still could happen.

In all fairness I predicted Birmingham to be in the playoffs and Sheff Utd/Preston to struggle

Yeh, funny that. I have recently requested the deletion of a thread where I predicted the surprise clubs this season would be Birmingham and Bolton.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Smug? Pot and kettle? Your claims about Villa pre-season were the only thing that seems smug recently, tbh. If you look back at the commentary made by the three of us active Wolves fans here, it has been a mixture of excitement and concern (for FFP) before the season and perhaps somewhat overly pessimistic predictions (I got the loss to Blades right). Our bright start a few years ago under Solbakken fell to pieces in November and we were relegated into League One: you may not be aware of that (because you were in the PL then and possibly didn't know there were divisions below) but most non-teenage Wolves fans are acutely aware of how the wheels of our bus tend to detach in November and February each season.

So smug? No. Excitement at seeing some of the most entertaining football our club has seen, possibly in its history? Yes.

My comment about the amusement at predictions is that, by recollection, the majority of predictions in this forum has favoured the opposition. My gut feel is that the same probably holds true for predictions made by opponents of Leeds, Cardiff and Sheffield United. On the other hand, I suspect all us Wolves fans predicted a victory at home against Bristol City.

Care to point out some of those comments? Ta.

 

[HertsWolf]

Care to point out some of those comments? Ta.

Care to point out some of the smug comments? Ta.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Care to point out some of the smug comments by us? Ta.

The ones of yours earlier in the thread for a start... Your turn.

 

[HertsWolf]

The ones of yours earlier in the thread for a start... Your turn.

That's ridiculous, as I've already explained. That was it? smh

 

[HertsWolf]

Care to point out some of the smug comments? Ta.

Yes, sure. No problem.

Cue me sounding arrogant, but I don't think that's the issue.
We need a couple of wingers, a keeper and someone to back-up/replace Jedi and we'll be looking at Top 6 any way. We have/will have the money to do that regardless of Terry, Veretout and Gil are both expected to be sold soon, whilst Tshibola, Richards and Cissokho are also on the market, that money with the extra (it's not £1million despite what the papers have been spouting) will more than cover what we are likely to spend on that. A line-up looking like this:
Bunn, etc, etc [Massively impressive line up]
....should be looking at top 6 regardless, and that's without any more new signings added. That is, imo, the best team we can field, and should be looking at being up there without additions, that's not to say as we don't need any.

It is a little annoying being a division below Burnley, Brighton, Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Swansea, Watford, Palace and West Brom, yes.

You're worried about the wrong direction for us.

(in response to comment about you being relegated possibly)

... we have a damned good core that only really needs a couple of additions for us to be competing at the top end of the table. You could (and probably should) argue that the squad we have now should be up there,...
... I've no doubt we'll be at the top end of the table next season, but I've been wrong before, I had us down to finish mid-table last season before a ball had been kicked for example, and we all saw how that went!

I like Reading, but I'd rather Wednesday went up as I think they'd be a much bigger threat at the top next season than Reading.

Surprised how few have us in the top 6 too, not that I believe it's guaranteed*, I just felt that the general consensus was that we've a damned good side for this level. We'll see.
*I know I had us 2nd, I'm being optimistic for a bloody change!

 

[HertsWolf]

The ones of yours earlier in the thread for a start... Your turn.

Done. Cheers.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Yes, sure. No problem.



(in response to comment about you being relegated possibly)

1. Look at the context, and see the comment, should be looking at top 6, not will. It was an analysis that not many disagreed with at the time.
2. That was in response to Superhorns saying about Huddersfield's promotion and that 'sleeping giants must hate it', it was a tongue in cheek comment where I did in fact congratulate Huddersfield on their promotion.
3. Yes. And? Should I have been worried about relegation?
4. Context is a beautiful thing, eh?

The plan was indeed an instant return, however that was purely a pipe dream in reality. I doubt this summer/January will be near as hectic as the previous ones, as we have a damned good core that only really needs a couple of additions for us to be competing at the top end of the table. You could (and probably should) argue that the squad we have now should be up there, and it should but it needed time to bed in.

As Villa Loyal said, this is possibly our biggest season in a damned long time, failure to get promoted will be extremely devastating next season, I think in January the plan changed, get the players in, accept that the rest of the season is going to be up and down, and go for it full force next season. I mean, we could still theoretically make the play-offs, but that'd require victory in all of our remaining games, and even then a few favours along the way. I've no doubt we'll be at the top end of the table next season, but I've been wrong before, I had us down to finish mid-table last season before a ball had been kicked for example, and we all saw how that went!

I feel if we don't get promoted next season we have one more chance, as after that, the parachute payments are gone. We may (and probably will) be under a transfer embargo by then too. Though there is a lot to be said about the massive reductions in the wage bill we made this season, getting rid of a lot of players, all players had relegation clauses in their contracts cutting their wages (rumour has it, most were as high as 25%), the players out on loan are having their wages paid by the clubs they're at, and a fair few of the players out on loan are looking like they'll stay where they are, the only doubt remaining really is about Veretout. Of course, we could decide to keep hold of some of these players, who knows?

The club needed this season down I feel, regardless of anything else, to recover, to get to know what it felt like to win again (we've won more games this season than we did in the previous 2 so far ffs!), and get a squad settled and ready for a launch at the Premier League, and following that, survival.

Once (if) we hit the Premier League, however, we can pretty much spend whatever the hell we like. Are there even FFP rules in the PL any more? If there are, they aren't bloody enforced.

If, however, things go tits up, it could well take a decade or more for us to fully recover, and by then I can absolutely guarantee Dr Tony would have lost interest and pissed off.

This is one of the remaining beauties of football, however, it still has that unpredictability factor. Burton could win the league next season for all we know (if they survive of course), it's that crazy, and we shall see how things go.

This whole post is, of course, all conjecture, but if we couldn't have that, then what the hell is the point of a forum?

5. Sheff Weds a bigger threat at the top than Reading? Where we should have been looking considering money spent? Shoot me. (This has also been proved somewhat correct)
6. I specifically stated that I was being optimistic there, and added

Give me about 3 weeks into next season and I'll probably think we're going down...

Again, context.

I also can't believe you were actually sad enough to go digging up to 4 months worth of posts ago but there we are.

 

[HertsWolf]

Again, context.

Indeed. Perhaps consider "context" of a statement when accusing any of us Wolves fans (or anyone else) of being smug. Otherwise, it smacks of hypocrisy (you get the benefit of context; we don't...).

My suggestion that you were a hypocrite was that I remember being amused by some of the 'big club' implications you made on a number of occasions. It also rankled partly because it wasn't the first time you had accused us of being smug.

Oh, and I can't believe you have spent time trying to justify some of those statements, even **with** the context.

 

[TomPNE94]

Fulham (a) - Draw
Wolves (a) - Loss
Brentford (h) - Draw

Bad month.

Even worse than I predicted but not surprised tbh, two very tough away games (one that we should have won) and a bogey team at home. Doesn't get any easier, think we'll slide down to midtable now where we will remain for the rest of the season.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Two 0-0s and 8-2 to us at the Sty then? Lovely.


For the record, my expectations/hopes:

Wolves 1-1 Villa
Villa 2-1 Fulham
Birmingham 0-2 Villa

Well, I only had us 3 points better off. I should stop with this optimism stuff.

 

[blademan89]

Ipswich h. W2-1
Reading h w2-0
Leeds a l 2-0
QPR a d 1-1

7 points would be happy with that.

9 out of 9 so far another 3 points tonight and things are looking superb

 

[Rammy]

Things will go from bad to worse this month. Rowett will probably get sacked, because Mel Morris.

Forest (H) - LOSS
Sheffield (H) - LOSS
Norwich (A) - LOSS
Leeds (A) - LOSS

An absolutely horrific month. Last month I was being a tad ridiculous with my predictions, but there's a good chance we could lose all of these.

12/12pts. I was close with my predictions.

 

[hodge]

Burton (H) - 3-0 win.
Leeds (H) - 1-1 draw.
Palace (H) - 2-1 win.
Sunderland (A) - 1-2 win.
Fulham (A) - 1-1 draw

Going optimistic 10/12, only reckon we'll get something against Fulham as we seem to shithouse results at their place lately and are a bit of a bogey team for them at theirs it seems.

8 points and a cup win predicted, reality 7 points and a cup win... could have been more wrong... As for our Fulham record under LJ at CC, 4 games, 4 wins, 10 goals 2 conceded

 

[markwwfc1992]

Aston Villa (home) draw 1-1
Preston (home) draw 2-2
Man City (away) lose 3-0
QPR (away) win 1-2
Norwich (away) lose 1-0

I got every result wrong

 

[JJH]

Slightly less hectic month with the international break. Comes at a shit time for us, just want to keep on playing games and carry on the momentum atm.

Burton (H) - 2-0 win.
Leeds (H) - 1-1 draw.
Palace (H) - 1-0 win.
Sunderland (A) - 0-1 win.
Fulham (A) - 2-1 loss.

7/12 and a cup win, would take that all day long.

7/12 and a cup win as predicted, happy fucking days.