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Is Dean Saunders our director of football? is he!? he fucking is isn't he!? I can feel it.
 

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Both red card decisions were correct. I don't understand the outcry.
 

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Sorry if people think it's a rash decision but Kenny Jackett needs to go. Every week he comes out with these bizarre team selections, wonders why were shit and then praises the opposition in the post match interview. A 1-1 on paper away to PNE looks decent but in reality it was awful. We didn't deserve anything from the game and drew purely down to some shit referee. For me a point doesn't seem justified, unlucky to Preston they were robbed and deserved the 3 points.

Have you not been watching football for very long...

Jackett's sides generally break down in patches over the season. Specific to Wolves, I remember a particularly bad month or so when you lost 2-0 at Gillingham on TV and were abject. From what I can recall, you did OK after that.

Think he deserves better than this sort of reactionary piddle.
 

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Have you not been watching football for very long...

Jackett's sides generally break down in patches over the season. Specific to Wolves, I remember a particularly bad month or so when you lost 2-0 at Gillingham on TV and were abject. From what I can recall, you did OK after that.

Think he deserves better than this sort of reactionary piddle.

Watched enough football in my lifetime thanks. I don't need a Millwall fan to tell me what Kenny Jackett is like either, we've had him for 3 years not 3 days, I'm confident I can form a character judgement on him.

My gripe is with his transfer dealings and his team selections. We've lost Sako and Richard Stearman who was our player of the year last season. Neither have been replaced and now were scrambling a bunch of kids together and pretending they are good enough (hint, they aren't). His team selections also leave much to be desired, with playing players out of position or players purely out of form every week.

Of course, you know more about my team than I do, so please proceed to tell me how wrong I am. (Also we lost 1-0 to Gillingham on the game you're talking about).
 

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That game when we lost to Gillingham we were 3rd despite having been unconvincing up till that point. This season we have been appalling in every game and it seems to be getting worse. We had a particularly poor of games last season in December, however again it had been after an okay start.

I am not sure I want KJ sacked, however if he thinks this squad is good enough I will be surprised.
 

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Both red card decisions were correct. I don't understand the outcry.

It was more the fact Kettle applied the letter of the law on every single Preston foul, but not to Wolves. If Wright warranted two yellows for his fouls, then the Wolves right back and McDonald who scored the equaliser should both have gone.

I don't normally comment on refs and neither does Grayson tbf but we were screwed over today.
 

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That game when we lost to Gillingham we were 3rd despite having been unconvincing up till that point. This season we have been appalling in every game and it seems to be getting worse. We had a particularly poor of games last season in December, however again it had been after an okay start.

I am not sure I want KJ sacked, however if he thinks this squad is good enough I will be surprised.

I rate Jackett as an observer from afar but that was the poorest away performance I've seen at Deepdale this season by some way. You just didn't seem to have any clear method of play and I think we'd have hung on with 10, 9 was just too much.
 

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Watched enough football in my lifetime thanks. I don't need a Millwall fan to tell me what Kenny Jackett is like either, we've had him for 3 years not 3 days, I'm confident I can form a character judgement on him.

My gripe is with his transfer dealings and his team selections. We've lost Sako and Richard Stearman who was our player of the year last season. Neither have been replaced and now were scrambling a bunch of kids together and pretending they are good enough (hint, they aren't). His team selections also leave much to be desired, with playing players out of position or players purely out of form every week.

Of course, you know more about my team than I do, so please proceed to tell me how wrong I am. (Also we lost 1-0 to Gillingham on the game you're talking about).

Just saying that off the back of two years of relative success and not even ten games into a new campaign you're already being a fickle ninny, so maybe you do need to be told fella.
 

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That game when we lost to Gillingham we were 3rd despite having been unconvincing up till that point. This season we have been appalling in every game and it seems to be getting worse. We had a particularly poor of games last season in December, however again it had been after an okay start.

I am not sure I want KJ sacked, however if he thinks this squad is good enough I will be surprised.

How does the Thelwell-Jackett dynamic work, because from an outsider's view it seems a bit odd. Jackett's always tended to do his best business mid-season.
 

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Just saying that off the back of two years of relative success and not even ten games into a new campaign you're already being a fickle ninny, so maybe you do need to be told fella.

Not really, I'm being realistic. I'm not the type to put my head in the sand and pretend everything will be fine because he's had 2 successful years with us.

Kenny Jackett has done a great job on getting us where we are from the shit in League 1, but I doubt he's the manager that could one day get us to the Prem.
 

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Not really, I'm being realistic. I'm not the type to put my head in the sand and pretend everything will be fine because he's had 2 successful years with us.

Kenny Jackett has done a great job on getting us where we are from the shit in League 1, but I doubt he's the manager that could one day get us to the Prem.

maybe so, but jackett is one of the most respected people in the game and and that wolves squad is very much his. it's the sort of move that could have potentially very bad long term consequences for wolves' repuation both outside and within the club.

maybe a degree of realism but not much pragmatism in that. sacko and stearman losses, but you'd almost certainly lose all your other better players too.
 

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Both red card decisions were correct. I don't understand the outcry.
Well Wright's first booking was an absolute joke, but it's not really anything to do with that. As Dessie said, the referee was booking our players for everything but as soon as a Wolves player did anything he let it go. It genuinely seemed like he was doing it deliberately to wind the fans up.
 

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Why would we have a bad reputation for sacking KJ? He's seems like a decent enough guy but managers in this day and age seem to lose their jobs all the time. Sure I doubt the players would want him to go, but I really don't see how it would harm our reputation outside of the club.
 

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How does the Thelwell-Jackett dynamic work, because from an outsider's view it seems a bit odd. Jackett's always tended to do his best business mid-season.

Thelwell and a few others apparently identify the targets. I don't know what involvement Jackett has. The comments Des makes though could be made by anyone we have played. I will give them some slack over Dicko being injured and not replaced, and we were never going to replace Sako in terms of quality, however we didn't even try to fill the gap from the looks of it. We started off playing a wierd narrow 442 diamond, it didn't really work but Afobe and Dicko were good enough that we were getting by. With Dicko not making space for Afobe he is a shadow of the player he had been and we just seem totally devoid of ideas as a team. The squad looks incredibly lacking in depth now too, the cb pairing is all over the place and we don't have the midfield for supporting two up top, we look totally abject.
 

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maybe so, but jackett is one of the most respected people in the game and and that wolves squad is very much his. it's the sort of move that could have potentially very bad long term consequences for wolves' repuation both outside and within the club.

maybe a degree of realism but not much pragmatism in that. sacko and stearman losses, but you'd almost certainly lose all your other better players too.

Many Wolves fans hear of tension between Jackett and the club's management. Like McCarthy, Jackett is careful with his words and in the past two months he has been making some curious statements.

"It is about sorting the team out and making sure we are cohesive as possible as a side and have a team to compete in this division." (29th August) A team to compete? We missed the play-offs on goal difference just 3 months ago, why is "being able to compete" a worry?
Weeks later, after the Bolton defeat, a despondent Jackett said “I thought we were naïve in certain situations which ultimately has cost us the game and winning at Championship level." Many have taken this to be a jab at the club's management and a commentary on letting your most experienced defender leave.
In the same interview: "There are a lot of new partnerships there today and that is how things work out." It is abundantly clear that those partnerships are not ones he would have chosen.
“Things evolve at a football club, they don’t stay the same, and you could see the partnerships working away and working together sometimes very well." Sometimes. Only sometimes. Not most of the time or even much of the time, but sometimes.
After a particularly inept cup display and defeat against Middlesbrough, Jackett simply commented on how Boro had strengthened their side over the summer and were a stronger side. It took little imagination to see that Wolves have not.

Current performance is reminiscent of 2012/13 when we were relegated. At Cardiff (lost 2-0), with a full strength squad we didn't manage a single shot on target. Against QPR at home (lost 3-2), our own website described QPR as "by far the better side". At the weekend, Preston were better than us with 11, 10 and 9 men. Bolton have their only win of the season - in nine attempts - against us.

I admire and respect Jackett. He has made mistakes but he is not getting what he needs. He will resign, with a smile and a statement that he has taken the club as far as he can and a sense that it is time for a new challenge for both parties. He will turn up at a similar club like Sheffield United, Reading or Bristol City. The club will thank him for his services and then we will appoint whoever is in charge at the club lying third, fourth or fifth in League One at the time. That's how we roll.
 

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Was out of the country and haven't seen highlights of the game, but, die Trevor Kettle.
 

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