Southend and Grimsby appeal against relegation

[masi51]

Well they couldn't compete with Horwich Wanderers

leigh Railway Mechanics institute........................moved to a town with no railway

 

[The Jovial Forester]

leigh Railway Mechanics institute........................moved to a town with no railway

Went where they were needed more, to spread the locomotive faith.

 

[masi51]

Went where they were needed more, to spread the locomotive faith.

is that your train of thought !!

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Oh I know it’s no guarantee and I’m not expecting to come back up straight away, it was just in response to his post about us not challenging for some time when in reality I do think we will be challenging,.

I think it all depends on who the manager is and how well they recruit in the first transfer window, rather than the budget. Martin Allen really fucked it up badly when Chesterfield went down, signing up a load of ex-league players out for a final payday. You reckon it'll be a big clear-out or mostly stick with the players you have?

 

[shoddycollins]

is that your train of thought !!

he's got a one track mind.

 

[PuB]

Guys stop de-railing the thread please

 

[GTFCfish]

I think it all depends on who the manager is and how well they recruit in the first transfer window, rather than the budget. Martin Allen really fucked it up badly when Chesterfield went down, signing up a load of ex-league players out for a final payday. You reckon it'll be a big clear-out or mostly stick with the players you have?

I think there will be a few he will want to keep as they have been performing much better recently but I do think there will be a mass clear out too.
I think had we stayed in League 2 McKeown may have been on his way as he’s been pretty dodgy this season but for National League level he should be pretty decent again.

 

[Robshep]

leigh rmi...............The original team that moved town

Forced out of town so that another club could play there.
Get it right.

 

[shoddycollins]

Can't see why you would complain about playing Leigh. You lot seemed to enjoy it.

Was certainly a wake-up call to see the likes of those on our fixtures list but can't complain about the games against them. That season in the conference was the beginning of the closest we've come to a golden era in recent years so It was fun and I've nothing but happy memories, certainly no thoughts of appealing against relegation and wouldn't change history now. It didn't even go all our way down there, and we ended up finishing 3rd and getting up through the playoffs but we basically had the spine of a League One standard team who would come within a hair of taking us all the way to the Championship. But for a couple of players we didn't add until the summer and Barnet having one of their occasional imperious Conference seasons, we could have won that league at a canter.

 

[jacobncfc]

If you promote 2 that invalidates their argument surely?

It would also leave the National League three teams short, so only having one relegation place next season. Which would almost certainly be the team starting with a massive points deduction, allowing whoever got relegated from League Two next season to argue the same.

It’s a complete non-starter if they’re going down the no relegation invalidates the division route. Just doesn’t make any sense as an argument.

 

[pontoonlew]

I think it all depends on who the manager is and how well they recruit in the first transfer window, rather than the budget. Martin Allen really fucked it up badly when Chesterfield went down, signing up a load of ex-league players out for a final payday. You reckon it'll be a big clear-out or mostly stick with the players you have?

Unlike most ‘big’ clubs going down we have the benefit of knowing what’s ahead of us and ironically the same manager who knows that too. On top of that we’ve been taken over by two guys who properly have their heads screwed on and have just hired a guy instrumental in Wycombes success (Mark Palmer). I’d be surprised if there was any side recently relegated down there who were better prepared to tackle it head on than us.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Unlike most ‘big’ clubs going down we have the benefit of knowing what’s ahead of us and ironically the same manager who knows that too. On top of that we’ve been taken over by two guys who properly have their heads screwed on and have just hired a guy instrumental in Wycombes success (Mark Palmer). I’d be surprised if there was any side recently relegated down there who were better prepared to tackle it head on than us.

That's probably fair - the worst thing you could do is sign up a load of L2 deadbeats to fill the gaps in the team. What was the main criticism of Hurst last time round? Was it his signings or his tactics? I seem to remember he was always being slagged off until he got you up.

 

[masi51]

Forced out of town so that another club could play there.
Get it right.

dear dear scraping the barrel there.........Horwich RMI owner sold the land for Development
It is 2 miles from where we play.

Do you have nothing constructive to say.................Thats a no

 

[Robshep]

dear dear scraping the barrel there.........Horwich RMI owner sold the land for Development
It is 2 miles from where we play.

Do you have nothing constructive to say.................Thats a no

They moved to another town. You moved to another town. They changed their name. You did not not.
Before you come up with the crap about Horwich being part of Bolton its NOT. It is part of the Borough of Bolton in the same way that Bolton is part of the county of Greater Manchester. Both created in 1974 for administrative purposes.

 

[Casey]

The story I was told by a Leigh supporter was that they applied to redevelop their ground in Horwich but were refused as Bolton had already been given the go ahead to build their stadium. That in mind they sold the land and moved to Leigh to be able to grow but for many a reason it didn't work.

Having a big club move into your town will always cause problems for the smaller clubs nearby. Ask Orient (I believe it's happened to them twice now) or, the aforementioned, Lewes who had Brighton turn up on their doorstep.

As to this thread. Nah! It ain't going to work.

Casey

 

[masi51]

They moved to another town. You moved to another town. They changed their name. You did not not.
Before you come up with the crap about Horwich being part of Bolton its NOT. It is part of the Borough of Bolton in the same way that Bolton is part of the county of Greater Manchester. Both created in 1974 for administrative purposes.

bolton was created in 1974....you plant pot

 

[AdamStag]

That's probably fair - the worst thing you could do is sign up a load of L2 deadbeats to fill the gaps in the team. What was the main criticism of Hurst last time round? Was it his signings or his tactics? I seem to remember he was always being slagged off until he got you up.

Yeah, we had that for 3 seasons then signed paul cox from Eastwood town, no-one really knew who he was but he had success with them and knew what non-league was about, we ended up on 89 points and the playoffs in his first season then 95 the next.

Most of the players had decent non-league pedigree too, it’s a route chesterfield have taken with their manager and will be interesting to see if it pays off.

Re grimsby and southend - yeah they’re doing what every club would do, even if it is cringe

 

[masi51]

fucking clutching at straws

 

[Robshep]

The story I was told by a Leigh supporter was that they applied to redevelop their ground in Horwich but were refused as Bolton had already been given the go ahead to build their stadium. That in mind they sold the land and moved to Leigh to be able to grow but for many a reason it didn't work.

Having a big club move into your town will always cause problems for the smaller clubs nearby. Ask Orient (I believe it's happened to them twice now) or, the aforementioned, Lewes who had Brighton turn up on their doorstep.

As to this thread. Nah! It ain't going to work.

Casey

Its straw clutching by their boards. Nothing more, nothing less.
At least we had a valid case last season.

 

[Robshep]

bolton was created in 1974....you plant pot

Was it. Thanks for that.
Perhaps you could get somebody with a level of education above 10 years old to read what i said and then explain it to you. Then get them to write an intelligent response.

 

[Robshep]

Yeah, we had that for 3 seasons then signed paul cox from Eastwood town, no-one really knew who he was but he had success with them and knew what non-league was about, we ended up on 89 points and the playoffs in his first season then 95 the next.

Most of the players had decent non-league pedigree too, it’s a route chesterfield have taken with their manager and will be interesting to see if it pays off.

We got Gary Brabin and he signed most of the players who got us promoted. Mickey Mellon acknowledged the part he played.

 

[Gladders]

I think it all depends on who the manager is and how well they recruit in the first transfer window, rather than the budget. Martin Allen really fucked it up badly when Chesterfield went down, signing up a load of ex-league players out for a final payday. You reckon it'll be a big clear-out or mostly stick with the players you have?

From what Hurst said yesterday I think it's going to be a big clear out, which is a good thing in my opinion, even the ones who have played well recently I wouldn't mind seeing gone, we need new players, not ones that have played well for a few games!

Main criticism of Hurst is he is too defensive, he would rather win 1-0 than lose 4-3, can be good sometimes but in a league with only one auto spot you sometimes have to go for the win every game, not be happy with. 0-0 away from home.

I think we are well equipped to come straight back up this time, I'm not saying it will happen (and I don't expect it to), but if we aren't challenging in the play offs and finishing 12th again, something has gone wrong. Hurst knows what he is doing, and we have two new owners that seem switched on enough to know it's not all about throwing money at players but also improving the infrastructure and non playing staff. They also have the money to back it up including saying we will have a better budget than this season.

Fans are also more positive since the takeover, depending on pricing I can see us selling over 3k season tickets comfortably. Several hundred new members have joined the mariners trust in a couple days since it happened taking them to over 1200 members from 800! Optimism has never been better now Fenty has left the buulding

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Carlisle United's fellow League Two clubs submit proposal against their "unfair" relegation

The two clubs relegated from Carlisle United's division have reportedly lodged a proposal with the EFL against their League Two demise.

www.newsandstar.co.uk

What nonsense is this? Unfair to relegate them because nobody is being relegated from the conference? What difference does it make? Then presumably it would be unfair to relegate teams from League One if there's no relegation from League Two, and so on until there's no relegation anywhere.

Sounds good to me!

 

[Boletus Edulis]

No relegation. Hmm, when that idea reared its head recently everyone was against it. If it is not good enough for Chelski, Man U and C etc, then why should be League 2 be different?

That said I fully understand why the two boards are trying this, I suspect all our club boards would do the same.

 

[Kauto Star]

The proceedings were started back when the Conference North/South was cancelled - so there's a good chance your club was also involved...

I can assure you we werent

 

[Shrimper92]

If we beatNewporttoday then we'll have done the double on them. Clearly we should take their spot for next season as punishment.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

bolton was created in 1974....you plant pot

Rob clearly stated Bolton was created in 1974, so I don’t understand your reaction. But if insults are being traded I’d like to add chowderhead.

 

[Robshep]

Rob clearly stated Bolton was created in 1974, so I don’t understand your reaction. But if insults are being traded I’d like to add chowderhead.

I clearly stated that the County Borough of Bolton was created in 1974 and that Horwich was made a part of it. Horwich is not part of Bolton, it is a seperate town in an administrative area. Just like Bolton is a seperate town within the county of Greater Manchester. He went into an almost incomprehensible rant about Bolton being in Lancashire not Greater Manchester but insists that it doesn't work that way when applied to Horwich.
In conclusion he is a prime example of why IQ tests should apply when voting is involved. Idiots get to choose the fate of nations.

 

[PaulHaddock]

Please can you two keep your bile away from this forum too, it’s already tainted the League 2 forum and it’s really shite to read.

 

[shoddycollins]

The story I was told by a Leigh supporter was that they applied to redevelop their ground in Horwich but were refused as Bolton had already been given the go ahead to build their stadium. That in mind they sold the land and moved to Leigh to be able to grow but for many a reason it didn't work.

Having a big club move into your town will always cause problems for the smaller clubs nearby. Ask Orient (I believe it's happened to them twice now) or, the aforementioned, Lewes who had Brighton turn up on their doorstep.

As to this thread. Nah! It ain't going to work.

Casey

They moved right into the heart of Rugby league Country, it was doomed to fail, nothing but peanut huggers in Leigh.