Sustainable Forest Green Rovers

[Mr Scooty]

Massively bankrolled clubs are particularly irritating down here with the lack of promotion slots, but I do dislike Forest Green the least out of all of them.

Multimillionaire owners of football clubs tend to be c***, but at least Dale Vince gives a shit about the world and likes his comedy hair cuts.
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And Wrexham beat them every season anyway, no matter how much money he's ecospunked on their squad

 

[The Jovial Forester]

When did they actually last achieve anything as a football club? Promotion this season is looking more and more unlikely.

You'll eat your words when we become the first team to have won the Vase and Trophy. That's boss-level tinpot.

 

[genesimmons]

I for one whish forest green to go up. Why? Because im sick of those gaining promotion every season been ex football league clubs. Getting boring. Lets have some new blood in league 2. Lincoln may be big men now and others before them like luton, grimsby etc but wait to they are back in league 2. Mind im sure a team has never come straight back down

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[The_Boss]

And we can find out how much of a fucking neanderthal I am tomorrow if you want, the offers always on the table for anyone who wants some.

I think we've just found out.

See you in The Albion on London Road at 2pm?

 

[genesimmons]

You'll eat your words when we become the first team to have won the Vase and Trophy. That's boss-level tinpot.

You a flyde fan im sure they have won the vase

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[Sparrow]

If it wasn't for me this forum would be deserted. Yet another thread with plenty of discussion. It would be good if others, especially mods, came up with some new threads. As Non-League's Best Manager Steve Burr once said: "You can join!"

 

[John Still]

He hasn't walked away, his company is doing well and can offset any losses made by FGR against Ecotricitys profits to reduce tax. Couple that with the advantages of owning a football club in terms of advertising/raising brand awareness as well as promoting the environmental aspect and it it all adds up to a win/win situation. Why would he walk away?

Vince is actually doing things a lot smarter here then many other multi millionaire businessmen have at a lot of the other clubs mentioned, which is why our model has a far better chance of long term success and sustainability. Revenue is increasing and the parent companies profits are increasing, in a sector that is only going to grow.

If DV ever did walk away, the club would cut it's costs accordingly, but be in a much stronger position in terms of fanbase, facilities and profile. So no, wouldn't call it financial mismanagement.

And we can find out how much of a fucking neanderthal I am tomorrow if you want, the offers always on the table for anyone who wants some.

But your fan base will disappear when the money does.

 

[John Still]

I'd rather teams didn't spunk money up the wall but it's not news. Good luck to them.

Would you feel the same if they pip us to the title by a point or beat us in the play off final knowing the only reason is money. Just as bad as Boston except this is not in brown envelopes.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

You guys are so naive it hurts.

Ecotricity spends next to nothing on Marketing. They spend it on FGR(yes, a major marketing tool) anything they spend into FGR will benefit from massive tax reliefs(not shown in figures).

The amount of press FGR get for a national league club is fucking phenomenal, like it or lothe it, we are becoming more and more well known, this then inleads to more press for Ecotricity, which then links to Ecotricitys huge swell in customers number.

Since 2013, the company has nearly quadrupled in size, meaning profits have increased greatly.

Dale sees FGR as a fantastic opportunity to spread his message, it's working a treat.

Believe me, this is only the start.

I think this is the biggest problem most people have - it's just a marketing tool. It's the same reason most people have been saying they'll stop supporting their club if they become Red Bull _______ FC.

 

[EnglishRed]

You'll eat your words when we become the first team to have won the Vase and Trophy. That's boss-level tinpot.

I think you have to stitch a dog and a duck above your crest if you do that.

 

[EnglishRed]

I for one whish forest green to go up. Why? Because im sick of those gaining promotion every season been ex football league clubs. Getting boring. Lets have some new blood in league 2. Lincoln may be big men now and others before them like luton, grimsby etc but wait to they are back in league 2. Mind im sure a team has never come straight back down

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I don't think they have. Cheltenham could well be the first. But then again they are a non league team really.

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

Would you feel the same if they pip us to the title by a point or beat us in the play off final knowing the only reason is money. Just as bad as Boston except this is not in brown envelopes.

What can we do? Whinging about it on here doesn't solve anything. There'll always be money clubs, it's part of the modern game.

As I said, I'd rather it wasn't like that but there you go.

 

[FGR Stroud]

I don't think they have. Cheltenham could well be the first. But then again they are a non league team really.

Gosh, that is fighting talk.
I'm glad that you said it although I agree with statement.

 

[Sparrow]

And we can find out how much of a fucking neanderthal I am tomorrow if you want, the offers always on the table for anyone who wants some.

If you don't laugh, you'll cry.

 

[Tom Fgr]

I think this is the biggest problem most people have - it's just a marketing tool. It's the same reason most people have been saying they'll stop supporting their club if they become Red Bull _______ FC.

Hmm I get your point.

At the same time though, I still love FGR as I did when we nearly went bankrupt. Enjoying the ups and downs. Would you walk away from Barrow if you had major investment? Or for that matter, who on here would walk away from their club?

 

[joethegill]

I doubt many if any would walk away from their clubs, but I'd imagine most would have the decency to admit that they'd been turned into a rich guys plaything.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Hmm I get your point.

At the same time though, I still love FGR as I did when we nearly went bankrupt. Enjoying the ups and downs. Would you walk away from Barrow if you had major investment? Or for that matter, who on here would walk away from their club?

You're right, and it's a dilemma a lot of Barrow fans have been worried about - we don't want to be the next Fleetwood. But I do think fans would walk away, and if I didn't walk away, I know I'd definitely have that tinge of guilt that it's all rather hollow.

Forest Green is like when on Champ Man you take over an opposition team to sign all your reserves for a million quid each and then romp to promotion - yeah, great, but you know in the back of your mind that it's cheating.

 

[genesimmons]

I don't think they have. Cheltenham could well be the first. But then again they are a non league team really.

Folk seem to think if a club weren't in football league pre 1987 they not a proper football league club. Cheltenham spent years in football league but i think they will survive on account of turmoil at leyton orient

 

[EnglishRed]

What can we do? Whinging about it on here doesn't solve anything. There'll always be money clubs, it's part of the modern game.

As I said, I'd rather it wasn't like that but there you go.

As moneyed clubs go I don't dislike FGR as much as someone like Eastleigh I suppose.

Folk seem to think if a club weren't in football league pre 1987 they not a proper football league club. Cheltenham spent years in football league but i think they will survive on account of turmoil at leyton orient

A big non league team...i might just be annoyed they went up and with a team half full of our ex players!

Leyton Orient seem in a right mess I think you could be right there. Newport don't seem to want to stay up either.

Id love it to be Crewe and Notts County myself.

 

[Luke Imp]

And we can find out how much of a fucking neanderthal I am tomorrow if you want, the offers always on the table for anyone who wants some.

I for one whish forest green to go up. Why? Because im sick of those gaining promotion every season been ex football league clubs. Getting boring. Lets have some new blood in league 2. Lincoln may be big men now and others before them like luton, grimsby etc but wait to they are back in league 2. Mind im sure a team has never come straight back down

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Why are you bringing Matt Rhead into this?

I don't know why the fighting talk about Lincoln. We're probably the most football league club in the National League. This is only our 7th(?) year out of it. We're nice and at home in L2 with the (very) odd promotion.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Why are you bringing Matt Rhead into this?

I don't know why the fighting talk about Lincoln. We're probably the most football league club in the National League. This is only our 7th(?) year out of it. We're nice and at home in L2 with the (very) odd promotion.

No-one likes an FA cup showoff. You're as bad as Sutton.

 

[Pablosammy]

Why are you bringing Matt Rhead into this?

I don't know why the fighting talk about Lincoln. We're probably the most football league club in the National League. This is only our 7th(?) year out of it. We're nice and at home in L2 with the (very) odd promotion.

Debatable...

 

[EnglishRed]

Why are you bringing Matt Rhead into this?

I don't know why the fighting talk about Lincoln. We're probably the most football league club in the National League. This is only our 7th(?) year out of it. We're nice and at home in L2 with the (very) odd promotion.

Don't Lincoln hold the record for the most times relegated out of the league?

So no.

 

[Luke Imp]

Don't Lincoln hold the record for the most times relegated out of the league?

So no.

Maybe when it was in a different form, not sure. Before my time! In it's current state, we've been relegated twice to my knowledge (1986 and 2011).

Just having a quick look, and it seems the current set-up started in 1921 (if I'm reading it correctly). The pyramid set-up seems to have changed quite a lot in the earlier years but of the current ex-FL National League Clubs, we've spent 104 years in what, at the time, has been classed as the FL. Then Stockport on 99, Tranmere 87, Wrexham 80.

We've also won more FL titles than anyone currently in the NL as well by the looks of it (3x L2 equivalents (although regionalised at that time but can also be interpreted as L1 titles) and 1x NL).

 

[Pablosammy]

Maybe when it was in a different form, not sure. Before my time! In it's current state, we've been relegated twice to my knowledge (1986 and 2011).

Just having a quick look, and it seems the current set-up started in 1921 (if I'm reading it correctly). The pyramid set-up seems to have changed quite a lot in the earlier years but of the current ex-FL National League Clubs, we've spent 104 years in what, at the time, has been classed as the FL. Then Stockport on 99, Tranmere 87, Wrexham 80.

We've also won more FL titles than anyone currently in the NL as well by the looks of it (3x L2 equivalents (although regionalised at that time but can also be interpreted as L1 titles) and 1x NL).

It's a matter of opinion and willy-waving, but I'd say you were the third most 'football league' side in the National League. Pottering around in the doldrums of the football league since the early 60s does not give you bragging rights.

 

[genesimmons]

Think its barnet who have been relegated to the conference the most

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[Luke Imp]

It's a matter of opinion and willy-waving, but I'd say you were the third most 'football league' side in the National League. Pottering around in the doldrums of the football league since the early 60s does not give you bragging rights.

Tbh, it didn't start as an entirely serious post so no willy-waving from me.

Just seemed a daft comment about the wait until Lincoln are back in L2 where they'll not be the big boys, despite being in L2 for years and years and being a decent sized club for that division anyway.

 

[Harrier94]

We're obviously the most FL club in Non League with our massive 5 years there .

 

[Bendubz]

Amusing that you should bring us up (and Darlo, and Rushden etc), do you not remember what happened to all of us when the bubble inevitably burst? Learn from the past FGR, stay within your means or you could end up with nothing

 

[Minstermen central]

Clubs who have been in adminstration at some point in the last 30 years, and are currently at or have been at this level recently- Tranmere, Newport, Kettering, Aldershot (twice!), Maidstone, Barnet, Exeter, Doncaster, Chester (twice!), Halifax (twice!), York, Darlington (x3!), Wrexham, Stockport, Cambridge, Boston, Crawley, Luton, Northwich, Farsley, Salisbury, Weymouth, Rushden and Diamonds.

Most of those clubs have at some point CHEATED local businesses, suppliers or club employees out of money they were rightfully owed, potentially doing a lot of damage in the process. No fans of those clubs have a leg to stand on when it comes to telling a club like us, who have NEVER had an insolvency event, that we are run badly or are bad for football.

York administration might be different to some others.
Our lovely chairmen decided to split the ground and club into different companies.
Hence selling the ground to a house building company for 2million and pocketing the money,league did nothing.
Then he gave the club to a con man and he assist stripped the club more.
Like other clubs the trust took over and took it out of administration.
We still have the loan of 2 million to pay back until council ever get round to starting to build new ground.