The BELEAGUERED Carlisle Utd Thread

[hellogregory]

Our owners released a statement last night fully backing Mike Williamson as the man to move us forward, all we have to do is be patient for his system to work even if it means dropping into the non-league then so be it.

Another relegation is a bitter pill to swallow, but I believe it will be followed by four successive promotions all the way to the Premier League playing tidy football under the inspirational genius that is Mike Williamson.

MK Dons fans will regret losing him to us.

They didn’t really say that though did they?

Look, I think we’re 100% going down, but I did not read that as them saying “if we go down so be it”. I fully expect them to have a go at preserving our league status.

 

[hellogregory]

Charlie Wyke got his leg cracked by Cheltenham on Saturday so will miss the rest of the season

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851655655255351568

The next time we see Wyke on a football pitch could be in non league football. Sad to see.

 

[Carver]

Charlie Wyke got his leg cracked by Cheltenham on Saturday so will miss the rest of the season

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851655655255351568

The next time we see Wyke on a football pitch could be in non league football. Sad to see.

Thanks to some dirty scummy Cheltenham player Luke Young formerly of Wrexham.

 

[WhiteRussian]

You aren't going down. There's only two places and even though I'm not Williamsons greatest fan I do believe he will get it right enough even if it takes the January window.

 

[Tallow]

Appointed a new Sporting Director today.
Rob Clarkson, previous experience at Sunderland, Rangers and the FA.
A positive appointment imo, strengthens the structure of the club and presumably can work well with Williamson to improve on field matters.

 

[hellogregory]

Yeah happy with that appointment. Good CV for someone so young.

But my word he’s got a job on his hands. 2 months till the transfer window, he’s going to have to seriously hit the ground running.

Hopefully this means Greg Abbott is clearing his desk.

 

[Carver]

Yeah happy with that appointment. Good CV for someone so young.

But my word he’s got a job on his hands. 2 months till the transfer window, he’s going to have to seriously hit the ground running.

Hopefully this means Greg Abbott is clearing his desk.

This guy could be our best hope of staying up and hopefully he'll work well with Williamson.

Glad we've finally got a sporting director at last!

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I’d personally rather someone like Jon Coleman in as sporting director or Nigel Pearson when mentioned.

Someone with a lot of connections and experience and know how as a manager, at the end of the day they are not managers so type of player they look for has to match a style but they’d had experience finding the right type.

But they want young fresh and at least he has done job a while and for me in areas we need to scour having north east and Scotland experience…….that’s our markets.

I would like one more recruitment addition with some focus to check around non league there are fantastic bargains there if willing to splash out but you have to scout it properly and not go off one fa cup in tv performance.

At least now you have two new people finding the players non linked to the last two horrendous transfer windows.

 

[Stocky]

I’d personally rather someone like Jon Coleman in as sporting director or Nigel Pearson when mentioned.

Someone with a lot of connections and experience and know how as a manager, at the end of the day they are not managers so type of player they look for has to match a style but they’d had experience finding the right type.

But they want young fresh and at least he has done job a while and for me in areas we need to scour having north east and Scotland experience…….that’s our markets.

I would like one more recruitment addition with some focus to check around non league there are fantastic bargains there if willing to splash out but you have to scout it properly and not go off one fa cup in tv performance.

At least now you have two new people finding the players non linked to the last two horrendous transfer windows.

I think someone like you've appointed is the best option for DOF. I don't think it suits old school manager types like Pearson or Coleman. I honestly don't think that generation of coaches/managers in the UK fully understand what the DOF role entails. I really think they believe it's basically being the manager without having to drag their arse out into the cold to coach Monday-Friday.

 

[Grimsby Road]

It’ll take more than just a couple of decent signings.

That financial backing has been there for two windows, and we’ve picked up a few players who - on paper, at least - should be good enough to compete at this level. Wyke, Jones, Lewis, Thomas, Hayden etc.

There is an inevitability about it. Williamson is beat, his interviews increasingly desperate. The fans have turned, and there is no unity at the club. Without major changes, this ends only one way.

It reminds me of Town a lot with Artell last season , tried to implement a style that the players could not cope with (were not good enough) and eventually reverted to type due to a bit of a dressing room debate . It worked , I wonder if something similiar might happen with you ?

I watched a couple of the Williamson interviews and he comes over as media trained and robotic even a bit patronising in the most recent 1 . I suppose the question is , if he makes it to January do you trust him with a warchest to recruit his own players ?

 

[Tallow]

It reminds me of Town a lot with Artell last season , tried to implement a style that the players could not cope with (were not good enough) and eventually reverted to type due to a bit of a dressing room debate . It worked , I wonder if something similiar might happen with you ?

I watched a couple of the Williamson interviews and he comes over as media trained and robotic even a bit patronising in the most recent 1 . I suppose the question is , if he makes it to January do you trust him with a warchest to recruit his own players ?

From what I've seen and heard from him so far, then yes, I would trust him to sign decent footballers.
As a club, we don't want another manager with a strategy of signing injured and unfit players.
Simpson signing Georgie Kelly last season gives me nightmares.

 

[Grimsby Road]

From what I've seen and heard from him so far, then yes, I would trust him to sign decent footballers.
As a club, we don't want another manager with a strategy of signing injured and unfit players.
Simpson signing Georgie Kelly last season gives me nightmares.

Yeah I would probably agree , I really don't enjoy his style of football though tbh - I went to both games against us and watched a few of MK on the box the passing seems sort of robotic like his interviews , it's all pretty predictable and even when we were very bad we beat them just by basically letting them have the ball at the back for most of the game knocking it sideways ; I know other teams play it out from the back including us but all the others that do it look like they are trying to do it to score at least .

Mk fans probably know more than me , they must have been better at times to make the play-offs l.

 

[Carver]

So what we need to do is follow the Grimsby model.

 

[hellogregory]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

 

[Optipez]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

I'm with you on that. In bad seasons I've watched us do " spirited" cup defeats only to sink back to abysmal the week after in the bread and butter of a relegation battle.

 

[GTFCfish]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

We put in a competitive performance at home to Wealdstone today but unfortunately came up just short.
I’m proud of our players efforts though.

 

[BarraMatt]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

£50 to a charity of your choice if you go down. Convinced you'll be absolutely fine, under Williamson as well. I'd say you'll end up 14th or 15th.

Wait. Have I done that right?

 

[Tallow]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

I get what you're saying but...
For the first 60 minutes we played great, better team by far.
Some big individual displays from Breeze, Thomas, Neal and DAA.
Playing out from the back actually worked today.
Then, after 60 minutes, fitness levels meant Burey and DAA were substituted and with being down to 10 men we visibly tired and Wigan took control.
Obviously it's another loss, but loads of positives to take from today.
There's light at the end of the tunnel (and it's not from an incoming train).

 

[hellogregory]

I get what you're saying but...
For the first 60 minutes we played great, better team by far.
Some big individual displays from Breeze, Thomas, Neal and DAA.
Playing out from the back actually worked today.
Then, after 60 minutes, fitness levels meant Burey and DAA were substituted and with being down to 10 men we visibly tired and Wigan took control.
Obviously it's another loss, but loads of positives to take from today.
There's light at the end of the tunnel (and it's not from an incoming train).

i agree. Although I wouldn’t say we were the better team by far, but we did play very well given the circumstances. Adu-Adjei made a big difference and the 3 starting centre backs actually resembled a competent balanced back line.

Next week is a huge game at Salford. Feel it could be a bit of a crossroads in our season. It’s important the players show the same level of application and effort as today with a bit more quality in the box. Players looking like they give a toss was a nice change today but it needs repeated. We’ll probably have close to half of the crowd, so the players need to turn up and show that today’s performance wasn’t a one off. If they don’t and it goes the other way that will be one big toxic disillusioned away crowd.

 

[hellogregory]

£50 to a charity of your choice if you go down. Convinced you'll be absolutely fine, under Williamson as well. I'd say you'll end up 14th or 15th.

Wait. Have I done that right?

Alright. And £50 to charity of your choice if we stay up.

 

[DippyDon]

i agree. Although I wouldn’t say we were the better team by far, but we did play very well given the circumstances. Adu-Adjei made a big difference and the 3 starting centre backs actually resembled a competent balanced back line.

Next week is a huge game at Salford. Feel it could be a bit of a crossroads in our season. It’s important the players show the same level of application and effort as today with a bit more quality in the box. Players looking like they give a toss was a nice change today but it needs repeated. We’ll probably have close to half of the crowd, so the players need to turn up and show that today’s performance wasn’t a one off. If they don’t and it goes the other way that will be one big toxic disillusioned away crowd.

Battle of our ex’s next week then. One our long term partner who we reluctantly parted ways with and have failed to replace since, and the other a short term attempt at a replacement who sensed the writing on the wall and moved in with another person before it came to a bitter end.

 

[GTFCfish]

Alright. And £50 to charity of your choice if we stay up.

Ok mate, the charity of my choice will be the GTFCfish Summer holiday 2025 fund cheers.

 

[Carver]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

I do think some were getting overly excited at a defeat but I suppose it just shows how bad things have been when we celebrate a defeat that wasn't utter shite for a change, but it was more of an inspired performance at least which is what's been majorly lacking.

What really matters is the result next Saturday though.

 

[GTFCfish]

I do think some were getting overly excited at a defeat but I suppose it just shows how bad things have been when we celebrate a defeat that wasn't utter shite for a change, but it was more of an inspired performance at least which is what's been majorly lacking.

What really matters is the result next Saturday though.

But next Saturday doesn’t matter at all though does it, as you’ve already stated that you are happy to go down to the National League as that means that it will be 4 consecutive promotions all the way to the Premier League.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

It shows how bad things are when our fanbase is celebrating putting in a competitive resilient performance in the cup against Wigan and only losing 2-0.

Players giving their all and putting in the hard yards should be standard, but for us it’s like all our christmases have come at once.

When your that bad you have to grab at anything at hope of a turnaround, am sure morecambe and Accrington will be happy this morning after dodging expected non league shocks.

I suppose the big positive yesterday was atmosphere, it’s the only drastic thing you do notice when reduced to listening to game than watching, for first time since maybe Bolton away there was a connection between fans and team, fans passionate behind the players, players in turn reacting to the fans with just basic things….running, effort, getting stuck in, blocking shots, etc rf. simple things you expect but lost the last 12 months.

And both fed each other and for once even in defeat a big ovation at the end of game, it can all go wrong but hopefully for some of them players it showed in a week what a difference in atmosphere to them it can be if just putting in the basics.

 

[Carver]

But next Saturday doesn’t matter at all though does it, as you’ve already stated that you are happy to go down to the National League as that means that it will be 4 consecutive promotions all the way to the Premier League.

Yes, then that will be followed by Premier League then Champions League success and a dominance of European club football that will last a hundred years.

 

[GTFCfish]

Yes, then that will be followed by Premier League then Champions League success and a dominance of European club football that will last a hundred years.

Until you added that last bit it was believable.

 

[hellogregory]

Yes, then that will be followed by National League North then FA Trophy success and a dominance up and down non league football that will last a hundred years.