The BELEAGUERED Carlisle Utd Thread

[EnglishRed]

Mike Keegan at the mail is reporting that we're considering going for Steven Gerrard.

Gerrard lined up for a shock return to England by relegation battlers

MIKE KEEGAN: Gerrard, who has managed Rangers and Aston Villa, left a lucrative role with Saudi Arabian side Al-Ettifaq last week after 18 months in charge.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I really hope they don't go that route for all your sakes.

 

[hellogregory]

Seen the Daily Mail (I know) reporting Steven Gerrard in the frame. I’m not sure what Carlisles owners think the question is if that’s their answer.

Just been reading that.

Steven Gerrard did work with our sporting director at Rangers. So I wonder if they have got that link and are just plucking the story out of the sky.

Anyway I can't see Gerrard wanting to touch a League 2 job.

 

[Stocky]

Carlisle's owners are a great science experiment into having the richest owners and yet the most stupid. A very entertaining combination.

 

[Scum.]

I see Dan Micciche has decent odds... that would certainly be an interesting one.

LOL, all our rejects. I think Carlisle aren't that stupid...maybe they can give us a fee for this too?

 

[hellogregory]

The issue with bringing in a dinosaur is the same sort of issue as bringing in MW in the first place, you’re asking the players to rip up everything and start anew.

Exactly. I hope we aren’t considering this.

 

[hellogregory]

Shame for Carlisle. Brilliant club. Looked pretty doomed on Saturday - we weren't great ourselves.

Twice in 3 years you’ve come to Brunton park and got a manager the boot.

 

[hellogregory]

Has to be Ian Evatt I'm my opinion.

Yeah, he’d be my choice.

His style would suit the recruitment we’d done. So we wouldn’t be back to square one. Done at this level and looking ahead to next season done it at conference level.

Whether he’d come to the worst team in the football league is a different matter. I have my doubts, but I’d love to be surprised.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Step aside Salford, Wrexham, and other generic famous club owners; we could have Steven Gerrard's Carlisle United as the new poster boys of lower-league football. Until he's sacked for the disaster, it would be, of course.

 

[Moonie]

Looking to make an appointment in the next day or two, according to a couple who are usually there or thereabouts with their info. Supporters Trust (who own a minority stake in the club) have scheduled a membership meeting for Wednesday.

 

[hellogregory]

Looking to make an appointment in the next day or two, according to a couple who are usually there or thereabouts with their info. Supporters Trust (who own a minority stake in the club) have scheduled a membership meeting for Wednesday.

Stuart Kettlewell (recently quit Motherwell) now the firm favourite.

Don’t really know that much about him.

 

[Moonie]

Stuart Kettlewell (recently quit Motherwell) now the firm favourite.

Don’t really know that much about him.

Kettlewell and Evatt have allegedly been approached.

 

[hellogregory]

Kettlewell and Evatt have allegedly been approached.

Had a quick read up on kettlewell and I don’t like what I’ve found to be honest.

Negative football, quit because he couldn’t handle a bit of fan stick. Not really what you need when you’re rock bottom of the football league. You have to have thicker skin than that.

 

[Moonie]

Had a quick read up on kettlewell and I don’t like what I’ve found to be honest.

Negative football, quit because he couldn’t handle a bit of fan stick. Not really what you need when you’re rock bottom of the football league. You have to have thicker skin than that.

Have to say, I agree. Evatt for me, though I understand others have reservations. I think he'd be suited to these players (or they'd be suited to him), and he has experience at this level. Give him the gig to the end of the season, with a big old wedge thrown in as a staying up bonus.

 

[Moonie]

Robinson gone.

 

[thewwfc]

In other news: is Fin Back as good as the rest of the Carlisle team? Cos we’ve just signed him.

 

[hellogregory]

In other news: is Fin Back as good as the rest of the Carlisle team? Cos we’ve just signed him.

He was good in his first season with us.

But he is made of glass. He started picking up lots of long injuries. He’d recover from one then come back for a game then pick up another one. Then we signed him on loan again last season and the same thing happened, more long injury layoffs.

If he can stay fit he’s good. Big if.

 

[hellogregory]

Failure of a transfer window for us.

I’d rather we hadn’t bothered. 11 players signed but we’ve failed to adequately strengthen our crap defence and useless attack. Midfield looks improved but that alone won’t keep us up.

The new head coach whoever it is, shouldn’t be crucified for failing to keep us up. He needs to start assessing and planning for the national league next season.

 

[thewwfc]

He was good in his first season with us.

But he is made of glass. He started picking up lots of long injuries. He’d recover from one then come back for a game then pick up another one. Then we signed him on loan again last season and the same thing happened, more long injury layoffs.

If he can stay fit he’s good. Big if.

Ah, fair enough, thanks. We’ve got lots of broken right backs already though so the “made of glass” bit doesn’t sound great.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Sorry I don’t want a manager who is going to play 3 at the back currently even if it seems the ‘in thing’ our centre backs have constantly been unable to play 3 at the back now for nearly 2 years and we still persist with it week after week.

Need to try something with a flat back 4 if that is a disaster then fine but this same old same old hasn’t worked.

Granted we’d have no full backs but we have hardly had wing backs either during this season just play centre backs or midfielders or wingers there

 

[EricSabin]

Jon Brady odds on favourite…

 

[hellogregory]

Jon Brady odds on favourite…

I’d be happy with that.

I assume he’s still well thought of by Northampton after the promotion?

 

[EricSabin]

I’d be happy with that.

I assume he’s still well thought of by Northampton after the promotion?

Very much so. Stood down as he just got a bit burnt out but has had a couple of months break now so may be ready to get back into it.

Did an excellent job at Sixfields, relatively flexible tactically, players and fans loved him, also played attacking pressing football.

 

[Carver]

Very much so. Stood down as he just got a bit burnt out but has had a couple of months break now so may be ready to get back into it.

Did an excellent job at Sixfields, relatively flexible tactically, players and fans loved him, also played attacking pressing football.

What’s his favourite formation?

 

[Tallow]

Very much so. Stood down as he just got a bit burnt out but has had a couple of months break now so may be ready to get back into it.
Did an excellent job at Sixfields, relatively flexible tactically, players and fans loved him, also played attacking pressing football.

Is he prepared to move to the far North?

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think we currently need a manager who would play something like a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 or diamond or that *shudders* 4-5-1

Got to ditch the wing backs, we t didn’t work for a year playing non possession direct football and hasn’t worked for 5 months playing an all passing possession game.

We cannot go really 4-4-2 because we have signed loads of ‘just behind’ the forward players and no forwards.

And I think we need someone who finally realises the line ‘build from the back’ and I don’t mean this in a mass defend way or a stats prove we don’t leak ‘as many’ way………we need to get clean sheets, we are always so easy to break down one maybe twice a game and open up from absolute nothing.

Last couple of games highlight the biggest flaw, play very well vs notts c and Swindon, on top and frankly apart from struggling to score we are confident then BANG out of blue other side score having done no work or put us under any presssure to do so.

Stop the basic slackness at back, be more confident to then push forward without risk of a goal…it will then turn.

Williamson was unlucky that his big defensive signing played 3 minutes then is injured for the season but it should have been addressed all season

 

[hellogregory]

only issue with going to a back 4 is I don’t think we’ve got any players capable of playing right back and left back. Williams looks like a winger and harper doesn’t seem to have any defensive attributes. Jack Ellis at a push can play right back but I’ve never been that sold on him there.

It shows how shit our squad is that we need the 3 centre backs to compensate for not having any defence on either full back side. Its maybe something the new manager can address in the summer ahead of the national league season, but for now I can’t see how it would work.

 

[Strawberry_Jam]

Is he prepared to move to the far North?

I'm prepared to put my head above the parapet and say he won't be joining Carlisle.
As Eric said. Brady was burnt out towards the end of his reign here, and was very much hesitant to take the job in the first place. He initially took over as caretaker and was on the record saying he didn't particularly want to leave his youth team role as it was a stable job for him. Which leads me onto my next reasons, he has a local coaching business down here and his family (including teenagers) have been settled in the Northamptonshire area for a 20+ years since he played for R&D.
I didn't see him taking another step into league management somewhere closer, and I definitely don't see him 5 hours drive away doing an Alan and staying in the Crown & Mitre Hotel indefinitely.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

only issue with going to a back 4 is I don’t think we’ve got any players capable of playing right back and left back. Williams looks like a winger and harper doesn’t seem to have any defensive attributes. Jack Ellis at a push can play right back but I’ve never been that sold on him there.

It shows how shit our squad is that we need the 3 centre backs to compensate for not having any defence on either full back side. Its maybe something the new manager can address in the summer ahead of the national league season, but for now I can’t see how it would work.

We have had no one able to play wing backs either all season so what difference does it make.

Half the time they shove wingers, midfielders or centre backs there or constant mass swap and change it…….absolute zero consistency at all.

I think half of the constant appeal to mellish was at least he could be ‘average’ in a range of positions which suited the god awful set up which picked formations where next to none of the players could at all actually play the positions we were using.

Find a loan full back or free transfer

 

[Robshep]

only issue with going to a back 4 is I don’t think we’ve got any players capable of playing right back and left back. Williams looks like a winger and harper doesn’t seem to have any defensive attributes. Jack Ellis at a push can play right back but I’ve never been that sold on him there.

It shows how shit our squad is that we need the 3 centre backs to compensate for not having any defence on either full back side. Its maybe something the new manager can address in the summer ahead of the national league season, but for now I can’t see how it would work.

You are getting dragged down by general over pessimism and Tranmere are getting dragged down by individual over optimism.
Be apathetic people.