The Cricket Thread

[blademan89]

I'm a very positive England fan. I think TFF and this forum proves that. Watching stokes smash into middle and leg.... Worried about us chasing this.

Doubt we will lose more than 2 wickets chasing

 

[silvergull]

In all seriousness, this is such a balanced England team; no more so than the pace attack. So, so good

 

[mowgli]

What a delivery from Stokes, bloody hell 47-7 so only 37 ahead.

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

In all seriousness, this is such a balanced England team; no more so than the pace attack. So, so good

Not according to Saddler it isn't

 

[silvergull]

saddler has wanted broad dropped every year for the past 5... So, you know!

 

[blademan89]

Saddler would still be negative if we were number 1 in the world and were winning every series we played.

 

[Ciderhead]

We are literally a top spinner and an opening partner for Cook away from dominating world cricket

 

[blademan89]

We are literally a top spinner and an opening partner for Cook away from dominating world cricket

Tbf youve got to remember they have steyn and philander out thats like us missing broad and finn. Its making a huge difference

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

Tbf youve got to remember they have steyn and philander out thats like us missing broad and finn. Its making a huge difference

If they had both been fit then Rabada wouldn't have got into the side though who has been far and away their best bowler. Also worth remembering that we were with out an injured Anderson and his would be replacement Wood in the 1st test yet me beat them by over 200 runs.

 

[blademan89]

If they had both been fit then Rabada wouldn't have got into the side though who has been far and away their best bowler. Also worth remembering that we were with out an injured Anderson and his would be replacement Wood in the 1st test yet me beat them by over 200 runs.

Very true.

 

[kieran_vale]

All out, absolutely incredible performance with the ball.

What a c&b from Broad there. Fitting end.

 

[mowgli]

Great win by 7 wickets Thank fuck we didn't have a big score to chase the way wickets fell today.

 

[blademan89]

Great win by 7 wickets Thank fuck we didn't have a big score to chase the way wickets fell today.

Give over won with absolute ease and we would of chased 200 down easily.

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

Finn picked up a side injury, I do hope they give Mark Footitt a chance and don't go for the safe option in Woakes.

 

[Super_horns]

Another inspired Broad spell then!

Great series win.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Not according to Saddler it isn't

It needs an out and out pace bowler for sure. Someone who can bowl 5 over spells at 95mph on flat wickets where our 'samey' attack can't get stuck in.

saddler has wanted broad dropped every year for the past 5... So, you know!

Not sure where you get that idea from? Maybe back in 07/08 when everyone with a cricket brain was questioning that pathetic and quite frankly mind-numbing 'enforcer' crap he decided to go with. Never question his place since then. Ever.

Saddler would still be negative if we were number 1 in the world and were winning every series we played.

Providing the cricket is entertaining and we are worthy of being number one, then I'm fine. That Flower side a few years back was over-rated and dull most of the time.

Amazing win, well in lads!

 

[kieran_vale]

I'd say towards the end it was definitely fair to call it dull. That said I think it's harsh to call that team over-rated. They made it to #1 in the world albeit for a short time and in addition to that we won in India, won multiple Ashes and held a very strong SA side in their own country last time we toured. We had a match winning spinner in Swann as well as Broad and Anderson.

Either way am delighted with this win. A real statement has been made by this team and there is still a lot more to come also. Swear I heard no matter what happens at Centurion in the final test we will remain at #5. Not quite sure how they work that out to be honest.

 

[silvergull]

Not sure where you get that idea from? Maybe back in 07/08 when everyone with a cricket brain was questioning that pathetic and quite frankly mind-numbing 'enforcer' crap he decided to go with. Never question his place since then. Ever.!

Worlds quickest search, and obviously we've lost TFF (where I'm certain you've been very vocal more recent than 9 years ago...)

Very, very underwhelming performance. Ballance, Root, Bell, Broad can all depart for me. Not convinced by Root. Hales, Vince, Bopara, Tredwell in for me.

Took it further than we thought to the penultimate ball, but there we go. England's weak bowling attack shown up again. Woakes is poor, Broad needs a streak soon or else his confidence will go and he will become a liability. Ali/Tredwell are just 'holding' spinners. Good test side, poor ODI.

Broad's a joke.

For once, I actually disagree. The pitch was slow and low, it did absolutely nothing for the seamers and any swing seemed to dry up really quickly after the first couple of days. Every bowler was up on speeds, everyone bowled a good tight line, we just lacked a little bit of a spark on a good batting wicket. Love Jimmy Anderson, a proper English man with a good attitude, team player, fantastic work ethic and when you combine that with all the bowling skills needed, you really have a once a lifetime kind of gem IMO. We will be talking about Anderson as the man to beat for generations to come.

I just hope Broad never goes passed him, ever.

My personal favourite from May 2015...

Controversial post of the day moment**
But is nobody read to fuck Stuart Broad off yet? Sure wickets. Sure great record. Inconsistent, arrogant, overally self confident to portray himself as this warrior like 'enforcer' - when he frequently bowls below 80mph and his batting is literally, an embarassment to back garden kids everywhere

 

[Matt_]

I don't post on this thread much these days, as least as far as England are concerned, as I find the negativity very frustrating and tiresome.

I'd just like to say a huge well done to the England team for a magnificent victory against the number one ranked side in their own back yard and a huge well done to the England selectors and back room staff for the fabulous job they're doing and for holding their nerve. England are still far from being the best side in the world but they're definitely well on track to re-claim that spot within the next couple of years.

The future is very bright for English cricket.

 

[TomPNE94]

Worlds quickest search, and obviously we've lost TFF (where I'm certain you've been very vocal more recent than 9 years ago...)









My personal favourite from May 2015...

 

[blademan89]

Worlds quickest search, and obviously we've lost TFF (where I'm certain you've been very vocal more recent than 9 years ago...)









My personal favourite from May 2015...

Brilliant stuff, exactly my point in my previous posts about saddler the most negative man ever. The one about root departing could be his best ever.

 

[Aber gas]

It's all reverse jinx with saddlerad. The amount of times he's saved England from imminent doom with one of his posts is legion. The poor fella deserves a medal not castigating.

 

[JJH]

Brilliant

 

[Saddlerrad]

I'd say towards the end it was definitely fair to call it dull. That said I think it's harsh to call that team over-rated. They made it to #1 in the world albeit for a short time and in addition to that we won in India, won multiple Ashes and held a very strong SA side in their own country last time we toured. We had a match winning spinner in Swann as well as Broad and Anderson.

Either way am delighted with this win. A real statement has been made by this team and there is still a lot more to come also. Swear I heard no matter what happens at Centurion in the final test we will remain at #5. Not quite sure how they work that out to be honest.

The style of play was relatively negative throughout the entire period though I thought. Not to forget that other than the Ashes win down under and possibly the series wins against India home and away - we generally struggled and didn't look all that dominant at times. Pietersen was the stand out player in that side...but he would be matched by Root in this side and in Stokes, we have someone who could dominate opposition bowlers and bat at speed. As you say, the big key in that side was the addition of Swann.

It's all reverse jinx with saddlerad. The amount of times he's saved England from imminent doom with one of his posts is legion. The poor fella deserves a medal not castigating.

Finally someone that can open their eyes...you all owe me!!

 

[Saddlerrad]

Just in reference to your post Silvergull - as it won't let me quote for some unknown reason.

A) I hope Broad doesn't go passed Jimmy, because Jimmy has been the better more skillful bowlers on a CONSISTENT basis for years. That's a personal preference and opinion.

B) I only called for Broad to be 'dropped' from the side - IE, dropped for a tour or a game to go back to Trent Bridge in seaming conditions and skittle a few sides out to get some confidence back. When was the Root comment from? When he opened or when he got dropped in the Ashes? I said I was 'unsure' on him at that stage.

C) 'Broad needs to go on a confidence streak' - Hmm, well yeah. Because he is streaky and when it down on form, you can tell, the media can tell, the commentators can tell, his team mates can tell - not sure what your point is with regards to that being considered 'Broad Bashing'?

D) Not sure why that's an issue? Broad has had an amazing 2015 and fair play to him, he has been great. Does anyone watch the verdict? They have all referred to the 'thank goodness Stuart has ditched the short bowling craziness of a couple of years back' - Willis and Mark Butcher had a 5 minute discussion of how it was a waste of time for him.

When he bowls short and attempts the entire 'enforcer' rubbish - it's infuriating. I don't have a personal issue with Broad, but let's not beat around the bush - just because he has had an amazing 2015 which has seen him rise above Steyn (who spent a lot of the year injured) doesn't take away the fact, that at times, he is a very frustrating bowler and in years gone by he has had long, dry, infuriating spells - where even his biggest fans have had a pop (Didn't Botham openly state him and get an arsey tweet response from Broad only a couple of years back)?

I've only ever called for his dropping..when the media/pundits and other fans have suggested it too. If you think I'm negative about him..or England in general, I'd advise NON of you to join Planet Cricket.

 

[RavenBish]

Not sure where all this hyperbole over Vernon Philander's come from. He's fairly average these days.

 

[blademan89]

Not sure where all this hyperbole over Vernon Philander's come from. He's fairly average these days.

6th fastest player to reach 100 wickets in test cricket thats not average is it its exceptional also an average of 25 batting aint too shabby either.

 

[Saddlerrad]

I don't post on this thread much these days, as least as far as England are concerned, as I find the negativity very frustrating and tiresome.

I'd just like to say a huge well done to the England team for a magnificent victory against the number one ranked side in their own back yard and a huge well done to the England selectors and back room staff for the fabulous job they're doing and for holding their nerve. England are still far from being the best side in the world but they're definitely well on track to re-claim that spot within the next couple of years.

The future is very bright for English cricket.

This I would very much agree with.

We have arguably the best crop of youngsters with potential in the world. SA remind me of ourselves if you rewind a couple of years. They have lost some key players in the batting department and have missed Steyn - I just hope we don't relax a little too much going into the final test. Imagine how 3-0 would look/sound to the rest of the world over a 2-1.

 

[RavenBish]

6th fastest player to reach 100 wickets in test cricket thats not average is it its exceptional also an average of 25 batting aint too shabby either.

That was in 2013 though, incidentally about 2 months before the last time he took a 5fer in Test cricket. He's basically done nothing for a good 18-24 months and is just a bit of a sick-note now.

 

[RavenBish]

6th fastest player to reach 100 wickets in test cricket thats not average is it its exceptional also an average of 25 batting aint too shabby either.

That was in 2013 though, incidentally about 2 months before the last time he took a 5fer in Test cricket. He's basically done nothing for a good 18-24 months and is just a bit of a sick-note now.