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Well this has been an interesting night. The ramifications are likely to run for months.
 

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Labour have won Halifax, where May launched her manifesto.

Anna Soubry *just* stopping short of calling for May to resign.

Wowowowowowow.

My mate works for Halifax's Holly Lynch and I left him at 9:30pm yesterday showering him in defeatist apologies. Ever so chuffed they've kept it.

Coulda gone out in Calder Valley, my own constituency, which lost by just 600 votes. OK, I'm not gonna eliminate that on my own, but it's a real pity to stay blue, with an MP who's voted against flood funding for places like Hebden Bridge, Todmorden and Brighouse, who walloped his adult son in public and doesn't even live in the constituency. Our campaign was big though. We should've come up with a drive for students from the Calder Valley to register back home to claw back the difference, imo.

My #analysis is that the Tories did get a bit more of the Ukip split than Labour, but Labour at least made up for it with the young vote, which I heard has been around 70%.

You can see that in areas where I'd guess fewer people have qualifications or leave for university, the Labour swing hasn't been there in many cases (Mansfield, Stoke South, Warsaw North, Stoke South). So the student vote's pushed it up. Yes, there are lots of owd fowk who bleed red or whatever but can't bring themselves to vote for this Labour, but even then perhaps fewer than hyped up by the broadsheets. In fact, some of the potential Tory gains that have been gossiped about in the papers have turned out to be utter jokes.

One of the few things the papers were right on, when they very occasionally mentioned it, was the rise of the tactical voter in this election. I think that's apparent by all the 80%–90%+ two-party contests. Will tactical voters add up to around a quarter of the vote this time? They've made an excellent, ruthlessly effective progressive alliance, yes, but I'd say the Ukip haemmorhage to the Tories is a similar tactical voting phenomenon.

None of this could've been achieved without the plurality between big fans of constituency Labour MPs and big fans of Corbo. The latter remains an absolute boy, and all the above being possible is entirely due to the groundwork set, and the beautiful audacity of that manifesto, whether it's affected the vote directly or indirectly. Somehow, Corbyn's #unelectability hasn't prevented any of the tactical voting, and neither has the split over Remain/Soft Britex/Hard Britex. Some remarkable weight has been shifted to plonk Labour into the centre ground of Britex debate, through all the contradictions, and the mutiny over A50 being passed through.

As for Scotland, they're just pulling names out of a hat now imo.


Senior Tories refusing to talk to the media right now tho. Beautiful.
 

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"LBC reports that Theresa May will resign if she doesn't secure a majority. She'll be gone by the end of the day."

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Laura K at BBC saying it is 50:50 whether May will survive. That's weak and wobbly leadership for you.
 
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I am happy as a Scottish-based British Unionist. The Tories enjoyed some remarkable results in Scotland, taking the scalps of Salmond, Robertson and that ghastly Ahmed-Sheikh woman (among others) in the process. Labour and the Lib-Dems enjoyed their own successes; and while it’s regrettable that the SNP remains Scotland’s most popular party, it’s lovely to see a multi-coloured Scottish electoral map again.

As for the rest of it…
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That's all I have at this stage.
 

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How long before the next election then?

Tories having to beg to the SNP and DUP to form a majority..?
 

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ConDup talks will have already started over the phone I bet
 

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today means we all now get the Brexit we deserve......an all party, all choices, all decision Brexit.....not one taken with 100% interest of one speciifc party and pushed by that small 6-7% of right wing anti-Eu fanatics that would have done enormous damage to the country.
 
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today means we all now get the Brexit we deserve......an all party, all choices, all decision Brexit.....not one taken with 100% interest of one speciifc party and pushed by that small 6-7% of right wing anti-Eu fanatics that would have done enormous damage to the country.
Really, in eleven days we start negotiations and we are simply not prepared. It is an omnishambles. Irrespective of your view, the situation on Brexit is, at the moment, far less clear than it was.

Dave calculated he would win the referendum and lost. May calculated she would win an election and lost. Does not really fill you with confidence does it?
 

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Have to say this is the best I have seen Laura K - insight, passion and soem humour.
 

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Zac Goldsmith back in
 

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Sinn Fein have confirmed they won't be taking up their 7 seats
 

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Woke up to see Labour took back my constituency by a slight margin, looks like lots of the same overnight.
 

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Zac Goldsmith back in

The by-election there a few months ago being hailed as some sort of wholesome fight back for 'decent' British centrist politics has got to be one of the most hilariously wrongheaded appraisals of the political landscape ever. Literally only the borough of Richmond seriously wanted a proper second referendum after last year's result, and that should tell you everything about people who base their entire politics around it. Willing to vote Goldsmith back in again at the first sign of Lib Dem deflation. Spineless borough.
 

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Really, in eleven days we start negotiations and we are simply not prepared. It is an omnishambles. Irrespective of your view, the situation on Brexit is, at the moment, far less clear than it was.

Dave calculated he would win the referendum and lost. May calculated she would win an election and lost. Does not really fill you with confidence does it?

Why do people seem to think the only way we can achieve Brexit is by having some extreme Tory version of it???

They say EU has one front to our many this morning.................no they don't, the EU has to negotiate and talk between all its different member countries and all their differing views, opinions and versions of how Brexit should form...............and amazingly so do our Government in the UK.

This tory b*llocks that we had to sit back and just accept their choice for Brexit...prodded with a stick by their looney Far Right Brexit-determined back benchers and a view of their deal or we walk clap-trap that would destroy the country.

Amazingly Brexit will involve things like negotiation, discussion, meeting middle ground, giving concessions............the Tories ditched that idea months ago expecting UKIP voters to come to them in droves and them getting their way, then we find out today maybe a portion of UKIP voters do want out of EU, but not in the extreme one political viewpoint way the Conservatives did.
 

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So this is what it feels like to wake up on an election morning and not feel like the world is caving in.

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Only downside is the potential of DUP being in Government. Resign Theresa and let's go again, you fucking opportunistic Tory twat. I'm never going to doubt Aber G again.
 

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Much closer than I expected in Norwich North, Chloe Smith holds on with a majority of just 507. Good holds (that I did expect) for Clive Lewis and Norman Lamb elsewhere in Norfolk.
 

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A shame, but predictable as people are inherently selfish. Still, as good a result as could be realistically expected, and it's been a disaster for slack chinned May, she went back on the promise of calling an election because the temptation of increasing the Tory majority was too much. You have to laugh at how it's turned out.

As someone who detests the Tories and everything they stand for its difficult to decide if I want her to stay or go. She's clearly fucking hopeless as a leader and decision maker, but by the same token it could be damaging for the country to have someone like her in with overall (albeit lessened) authority.

There will be a lot of Tory MPs right now that will be seriously pissed with her, and that's not even including the ones that have lost their seats as a result of this debacle. I'm expected an interesting few weeks.
 

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It is a monumental failure for the Torys, however they respond. She can't even say "strong and stable" anymore.

Another objectively good thing is that this is the highest number of female MPs ever elected in UK already with over 200.
 
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Another objectively good thing is that this is the highest number of female MPs ever elected in UK already with over 200.

But with no Philip Davies to present the other side of the great debate :err:
 

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Few highlights for me.

Nick Clegg's face.
Pat McDonald enjoying himself more than Theresa May despite losing to her by 26k votes.
Penistone and Stocksbridge remaining Labour in the face of a strong Tory campaign there albeit only just so work to be done there next time.
 

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