Trident

[Ebeneezer Goode]

no hippy dippy future just a more nuanced understanding of diplomacy. your argument would be more effective if other states without nuclear arsenals had been nuked, then u could claim that it was only our ability to MAD the shit out of people that saved us from a similar fate. as it is no-one has been nuked since the japanese. no nuclear power, and no non-nuclear power. not surprised to see u advocating the decimation of innocents though u are a robot

It's weird how enthusiastic you are to murder thousands of people. Very strange. It's a fanaticism not really backed up by any evidence or logic.

It's important to note that contrary to nuclear-fanboys assertions nuking Japan didn't actually save any lives - Japan had been ready to surrender on terms nearly identical to the ones that were eventually accepted months before the end of the war.

Diplomacy could have saved hundreds and thousands of lives - not just the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki but the hundreds of thousands who died in the firebombing of Tokyo and other attacks on civilian targets.

Imagine if China nuked a disarmed America though. The biggest losers (after America) would probably wind up being China cos their economy is dependent on trade with America.

At no point have I suggested that we'd definitely be unsafe without nuclear weapons, or definitely anything for that matter, that's the whole point. We have no idea what threat(s) the future holds and that's why we should have that extra safeguard in the first place. And while there may well be some "nuclear fanboys" out there who claim that nuclear weapons saved Japanese lives during the second world war, they're not here, nor is there anyone here who has suggested that China would nuke a disarmed America. If your point is that we'll never need nuclear weapons then your job is not to invent a scenario in which a disarmed country wouldn't be threatened by them, it's to come up with a reason why a disarmed country could never be threatened by them. And given that an increasingly interconnected global economy of world powers going to war with one another was becoming more common, not less, prior to the invention of nuclear weapons, I don't think that that rationale helps your case very much.