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Pretty harsh read I think. We’ve been generally a good footballing side under Brady so far in his tenure.

Maybe you don’t like playing us because you don’t have a very good record against us.
we are the opposite, love playing Northampton as we love the 3 points however its gained
 

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we are the opposite, love playing Northampton as we love the 3 points however its gained

Yep you always seem to turn us over, play off semi finals aside….
 

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Yep you always seem to turn us over, play off semi finals aside….
Yeah i think you owe us the recent wins after that. Still ranks as my worst ever game and there has been very stiff competition
 

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Don't know what's happened over at Stockport lately, had a relatively easy start too. Can't seem to score unless it's a Barry potshot or a pen.
 

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Yeah that disallowed goal was harsh. Nice to see another one of Marquis' offsides doing us a favour for once though. That's all the bloke used to do here, either give away free kicks or get caught offside.
Draw would probably have been fairer on balance
Agree draw would have been fair.

Actually the 2nd goal we've had disallowed for Marquis not getting back in line with the defenders. Although the other one in the tin pot trophy against Birmingham he stood in front of the keeper with no attempt to move. Barely seems interested when he plays, but we've got no other central striker options as Lloyd is already on the pitch and not seen Kayode since August with no timescale on a return.
 

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Don't know what's happened over at Stockport lately, had a relatively easy start too. Can't seem to score unless it's a Barry potshot or a pen.
Less baffled by their start and more baffled by Mansfield's.

Looks like it's up to us to stop them.
 

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Less baffled by their start and more baffled by Mansfield's.

Looks like it's up to us to stop them.

It’s what happens when you’ve got clough as manager. :lol:

We clearly won’t last the pace and no-one is saying or pretending we will. 50 points is the aim and we’re kinda halfway there in october which is remarkable. We’ve birmingham home then you away where i expect 0 points.
 

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Less baffled by their start and more baffled by Mansfield's.

Looks like it's up to us to stop them.

No such thing as ChallinorBall, but CloughBall™️ is alive and kicking.

I am genuinely surprised how well Wrexham have started, but it’s early days for both of us, our run in over the next month looks particularly grim.
 

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We are where we are on merit ,wrexham have probably more potential but at the moment thats all it is ,birmingham are miles ahead of everyone in this division but the rest are not miles apart .I hate all this were targeting safety crap ,were a lot better than some of even fellow stags fans believe lets just keep going for it and see where it takes us
 

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Agree draw would have been fair.

Actually the 2nd goal we've had disallowed for Marquis not getting back in line with the defenders. Although the other one in the tin pot trophy against Birmingham he stood in front of the keeper with no attempt to move. Barely seems interested when he plays, but we've got no other central striker options as Lloyd is already on the pitch and not seen Kayode since August with no timescale on a return.
I don’t agree with a draw, throughout the 90 I thought we were the more dominant and created more chances, it’s just one of those ones where when you have the final 15 mins entirely in your favour, it makes it feel like you should have grabbed a point - which you very nearly did.

I’m in 2 minds on the disallowed goal. My first reaction was that it’s a goal, he’s nowhere near the line of sight. But is he interfering with play? I guess he is. Not sure on the exact rule, but if it’s given I’d be annoyed, if it’s ruled out I’d be annoyed if I were you. Tough one
 

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I don’t agree with a draw, throughout the 90 I thought we were the more dominant and created more chances, it’s just one of those ones where when you have the final 15 mins entirely in your favour, it makes it feel like you should have grabbed a point - which you very nearly did.

I’m in 2 minds on the disallowed goal. My first reaction was that it’s a goal, he’s nowhere near the line of sight. But is he interfering with play? I guess he is. Not sure on the exact rule, but if it’s given I’d be annoyed, if it’s ruled out I’d be annoyed if I were you. Tough one
Wasn't there a comment a few years back saying if you're not interfering with play why are you on the pitch? Would make things more simple going back to the very old rule, as the rules as they are currently are subjective.

The frustrating thing about it is that there was the high profile one in the Wolves v City game where the goal was initially ruled out but overturned by VAR even though Silva was much closer to the action and keeper than Marquis was. In our game it looked like the officials were influenced by the keeper's appeal (he was the only one) and the linesman looks to have been talked into the decision by his body language on the TV. Had the goal been given (rightly in my opinion) I don't think there would have been any complaints.

We need to scramble as many points as we can and keep teams close to us. A mate of mine said a few weeks back we won't get 30 points this season. I initially said low 40's and hope others are as bad. He may be right!
 

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Wasn't there a comment a few years back saying if you're not interfering with play why are you on the pitch? Would make things more simple going back to the very old rule, as the rules as they are currently are subjective.

The frustrating thing about it is that there was the high profile one in the Wolves v City game where the goal was initially ruled out but overturned by VAR even though Silva was much closer to the action and keeper than Marquis was. In our game it looked like the officials were influenced by the keeper's appeal (he was the only one) and the linesman looks to have been talked into the decision by his body language on the TV. Had the goal been given (rightly in my opinion) I don't think there would have been any complaints.

We need to scramble as many points as we can and keep teams close to us. A mate of mine said a few weeks back we won't get 30 points this season. I initially said low 40's and hope others are as bad. He may be right!
Honestly I can’t remember, but I can’t argue with anything you’re saying. Now that we have all these sky cameras, there’s no reason why that couldn’t have been reviewed, we all saw it at home within 10 seconds.

I agree our keeper is the one who got that over turned ( I’m also annoyed no one else seemed bothered enough to challenge). I actually don’t blame the linesman, how can he tell? He sees the GK saying he can’t see because Marquis is offside, he tells the ref that he was definitely offside but he can’t see exactly the line of sight. They decide fair enough, disallow it.

Not saying it’s the right decision, just I understand how/why
 

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Wasn't there a comment a few years back saying if you're not interfering with play why are you on the pitch? Would make things more simple going back to the very old rule, as the rules as they are currently are subjective.

The frustrating thing about it is that there was the high profile one in the Wolves v City game where the goal was initially ruled out but overturned by VAR even though Silva was much closer to the action and keeper than Marquis was. In our game it looked like the officials were influenced by the keeper's appeal (he was the only one) and the linesman looks to have been talked into the decision by his body language on the TV. Had the goal been given (rightly in my opinion) I don't think there would have been any complaints.

We need to scramble as many points as we can and keep teams close to us. A mate of mine said a few weeks back we won't get 30 points this season. I initially said low 40's and hope others are as bad. He may be right!
You've actually hit the nail on the head regarding our keeper appealing. The Wolves keeper made no appeal ( like the rest of the Wolves players ) and so the ref awarded the goal.
 

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Honestly I can’t remember, but I can’t argue with anything you’re saying. Now that we have all these sky cameras, there’s no reason why that couldn’t have been reviewed, we all saw it at home within 10 seconds.

I agree our keeper is the one who got that over turned ( I’m also annoyed no one else seemed bothered enough to challenge). I actually don’t blame the linesman, how can he tell? He sees the GK saying he can’t see because Marquis is offside, he tells the ref that he was definitely offside but he can’t see exactly the line of sight. They decide fair enough, disallow it.

Not saying it’s the right decision, just I understand how/why
Absolutely understand why. Fair play to Griffiths, he took a chance. We had one against Exeter where Woods handled a Benning shot, but nobody appealed for it. Under Cotterill we were one of the worst for trying to influence officials, rightly or wrongly.

At the end of the day, had Marquis just bothered to get himself onside then there isn't even a debate.

Was hoping Rovers would be in our mini league at the bottom. Maybe it was a cunning plan to keep Taylor in his job!
 

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We are where we are on merit ,wrexham have probably more potential but at the moment thats all it is ,birmingham are miles ahead of everyone in this division but the rest are not miles apart .I hate all this were targeting safety crap ,were a lot better than some of even fellow stags fans believe lets just keep going for it and see where it takes us
Agree with everything you say there...and yes, forget Brum, they might have the odd slip-up here & there, but they'll piss it.

As for us, you & Stockport all being up there...dare I say it, but the jump up in quality hasn't been as big that we thought it was gonna be?? Still some goods sides to come more into the picture I feel, and I know it's still early doors yet, but they do reckon tthat after 10 games or so, it starts to paint a better picture on how things will pan out eventually, and we're still up there!

Injuries through the winter will have an impact as we move forward, but whereas before we started, I'd have well-happy to finish anywhere above mid-table, now I'd say the play offs could be do-able.
 

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Absolutely understand why. Fair play to Griffiths, he took a chance. We had one against Exeter where Woods handled a Benning shot, but nobody appealed for it. Under Cotterill we were one of the worst for trying to influence officials, rightly or wrongly.

At the end of the day, had Marquis just bothered to get himself onside then there isn't even a debate.

Was hoping Rovers would be in our mini league at the bottom. Maybe it was a cunning plan to keep Taylor in his job!

He never learns. Lost count of the times Ive said "FFS John" during games at yet another offside which had stopped a decent move. Gets caught way too many times for someone of his experience.
Fair enough you have to keep your eye on the ball, but you also need to make sure you can legally do something with it should it come your way.
 

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The problem with the stags is that 8 of the 11 games have been against bottom half table sides and only three against top half table. Table is a better indication when teams have played everyone ( ie 23 games)
 

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