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Exactly. Del Bosque is hugely associated with Madrid too, didn't do him any harm. You don't get more "Madrid" than Hierro and Del Bosque, they made over 1000 appearances for Real between them in their playing careers. Very bizarre.

Very funny.

Pickford Trippier Walker Stones Maguire Rose Henderson (bring Delph on for Henderson at HT if we're looking flat) Lingard Alli Sterling Kane Need Stones in the centre for his ability to bring the ball out and step into midfield. Maguire has impressed me whenever he's played for England...

That's harsh. If he was truly concussed then he's not going to be in the right frame of mind to signal anything. It's up to the doctors to diagnose him, how did they miss it? Being high on adrenaline in the biggest game of his career, he probably wasn't even aware how bad he actually was.

I didn't say that... I'm starting to think you're a bot.

As you can see by my earlier post I wanted Liverpool to beat City cos they were more likely to fail. You had a good run in the CL but it counts for nothing in the end. I've seen my club lose in 2 CL finals and know that you don't look back thinking "what a great run that was!", you look back...

We finished 2nd and won fuck all. You finished 4th and won fuck all. What's the point in getting to finals if you're incapable of winning them?

No one's perfect.

Don't you think he does more harm than good? His name attached to anything is going to lack credibility due to him being involved. Right minded people know he's pond life who's more often than not looking for a fight and to stoke up tensions, the idea that he genuinely cares about any victims is...

:ffs: Tommy Robinson or whatever his real name is is a thug. People spreading lies about him to try to turn him into some sort of man of the people who's standing up for what's right are off their heads.

Come on mate, now's not the time for silly arguments. Although since you bring up Mr Mourinho, I will treat you to a little fact: Jose Mourinho in CL finals: Played 2, won 2 Jurgen Klopp in CL finals: Played 2, lost 2 Very interesting. Says a lot about the two men imo.

Am I surprised by this result? The answer is no. Jurgen Klopp didn't earn the nickname "Final Bottler" by mistake.

Well it does have something to do with them as they benefited from cheating. Once again, no one's blaming them for it, but it happened. And the titles were revoked so that renders the medals pointless. I guess your point is that players having an unfair advantage doesn't diminish their records...

You don't think the players were getting an unfair advantage due to the cheating? England win the World Cup and Harry Kane is the tournament's top goalscorer. A little while later it's exposed that England bribed their way to victory (Prince Andrew was involved). Sir Harry (as he's now called)...

Benefiting from cheating = achievements gained from said cheating being tainted. How is that hard for you to understand? I'm not sure you're in any position to talk about other people's lack of intelligence, your levels of comprehension are that of a small child.

No one's blaming them, but any "achievements" they made during that are completely tainted due to the Calciopoli scandal.

The final season of The Americans has been amazing episode after amazing episode. The most intense tv I've seen in years. Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys are fantastic actors. It's the perfect series to binge if anyone's looking for a new show.