Rooney returns...

[epic73]

Prepare yourself for a 10,000 word reply from St. Juste detailing one oddly specific reason why he thinks his posts are nothing like War and Peace.

Tolstoy was born over 1,000 miles away from footballing superpower Kazakhstan!

 

[St. Juste]

How did you work that out?

The titles were stripped from the club, I don't think they went around taking medals.

The players weren't even aware, hard to blame them.

Prepare yourself for a 10,000 word reply from St. Juste detailing one oddly specific reason why he thinks his posts are nothing like War and Peace.

Anyone who thinks my posts are like War and Peace, have not read War and Peace.

It's a great book, I'd highly recommend it. And it means next time you use it in an analogy, it won't just be because it's a book you've heard of, that's very long.

 

[Leo]

Christ, you really do have to admire Hugh's dedication to an argument. No matter what, he will never allow someone else to have the last word, even if that someone quite evidently knows more about the subject and he makes himself look a little silly in the process.

If you have a wee peek in some of the Scottish fitba threads you'll find that's not actually true Pagnell. He's 'fairly' regularly put in his place there after spouting his nonsense.

 

[St. Juste]

If you have a wee peek in some of the Scottish fitba threads you'll find that's not actually true Pagnell. He's 'fairly' regularly put in his place there after spouting his nonsense.

Correct, I think I left it after "Gerrard is intelligent because Craig Bellamy said he had footballing intelligence".

Hard to counter that. It's a wonder Gascgoine isn't CEO of Goldman Sachs with his abundant footballing intelligence.

 

[Nilsson]

The titles were stripped from the club, I don't think they went around taking medals.

The players weren't even aware, hard to blame them.

No one's blaming them, but any "achievements" they made during that are completely tainted due to the Calciopoli scandal.

 

[Abertawe]

No one's blaming them, but any "achievements" they made during that are completely tainted due to the Calciopoli scandal.

Italian version of Calpol?

 

[Stevencc]

The titles were stripped from the club, I don't think they went around taking medals.

The players weren't even aware, hard to blame them.



Anyone who thinks my posts are like War and Peace, have not read War and Peace.

It's a great book, I'd highly recommend it. And it means next time you use it in an analogy, it won't just be because it's a book you've heard of, that's very long.

I didn't use it in an analogy.

 

[Leo]

Correct, I think I left it after "Gerrard is intelligent because Craig Bellamy said he had footballing intelligence".

Hard to counter that. It's a wonder Gascgoine isn't CEO of Goldman Sachs with his abundant footballing intelligence.

Actually you didn't....you said 'some ex-team mates'.....Also, were Brendan Rodgers or Pirlo ex team mates ? The fact of the matter is....you walked away because you couldn't back up your assertions with evidence. As per with you, you answer what you think you makes you look in a positive light but gives absolutely no credence to the discussion as was well pointed out by Bilo especially when you claimed Ibrahimovic had won league titles in Sweden....

And again you pathetically deflect by naming Paul Gascoigne....what the hell he has to do with Gerrard ? As usual you were found wanting....If you're going to make brash statements expect to be questioned on them and it's always better to have the evidence to back said statements up......

 

[Stevencc]

Correct, I think I left it after "Gerrard is intelligent because Craig Bellamy said he had footballing intelligence".

Hard to counter that. It's a wonder Gascgoine isn't CEO of Goldman Sachs with his abundant footballing intelligence.

Who is 'Gascgoine'?

 

[Bilo]

Who is Gascgoine?

Didn't he cry when Thatcher wasn't re-elected? Yes that was him

 

[SALTIRE]

Didn't he cry when Thatcher wasn't re-elected?

Tbf we all did.

 

[Johnnyt]

Tbf we all did.

I never

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

What are we even talking about. Thatcher was consistently re-elected til her own party gave her the boot.

 

[Pagnell]

I never

Now I know you're not a scouser.

 

[Johnnyt]

Now I know you're not a scouser.

until the 70/80s tories always won in Liverpool ....the big smoke is puddling your brain darn sarf

 

[St. Juste]

No one's blaming them, but any "achievements" they made during that are completely tainted due to the Calciopoli scandal.

I don't imagine they feel it that way at all. The title was stripped from the club due to the actions of the club, not the players.

Anyway, does anyone actually think Rooney is better than Ibrahimovic?

No, rather someone argued a strikers peak is 9 years (based on "biology") and that Gerrard was intelligent because he had footballing intelligence.

How intelligent is Rooney, do we think? Mensa member? Will his post career see him embarking upon a PhD?

 

[Bilo]

I don't imagine they feel it that way at all. The title was stripped from the club due to the actions of the club, not the players.

Anyway, does anyone actually think Rooney is better than Ibrahimovic?

No, rather someone argued a strikers peak is 9 years (based on "biology") and that Gerrard was intelligent because he had footballing intelligence.

How intelligent is Rooney, do we think? Mensa member? Will his post career see him embarking upon a PhD?

 

[Leo]

No, rather someone argued a strikers peak is 9 years (based on "biology") and that Gerrard was intelligent because he had footballing intelligence.

No they didn't. You stated categorically that 'NOBODY' ever stated Gerrard was intelligent. I gave THREE examples where that actually was the case after which you went on your usual deflection tactics (a sure sign of a loser).

How intelligent is Rooney, do we think? Mensa member? Will his post career see him embarking upon a PhD?

Oh for fucks sake. Doctor quick....the medication is required......

 

[St. Juste]

No they didn't. You stated categorically that 'NOBODY' ever stated Gerrard was intelligent. I gave THREE examples where that actually was the case after which you went on your usual deflection tactics (a sure sign of a loser).


Oh for fucks sake. Doctor quick....the medication is required......

Probably because I don't consider footballing intelligence, to be related to actual intelligence.

And when I use examples to this effect, e.g. "intelligent" players like Gascoigne and Rooney being notoriously unintelligent you ask me to stop using examples because "they are not relevant".

Except of course they are, in the context that being an intelligent footballer does not make you an intelligent person. It doesn't for Rooney. It doesn't for Gascoigne, and it doesn't for Gerrard.

It's the most obvious point ever, and I could continue arguing with you that the grass is green and the sky is blue - but why bother? You think Gerrard is intelligent because Craig Bellamy said he had footballing intelligence.

Fine, it's a stupid thing to think, but you're never going to change.

So Gerrard, Mensa member or relatively unintelligent? Decide for yourself.

 

[Leo]

Probably because I don't consider footballing intelligence, to be related to actual intelligence.

And when I use examples to this effect, e.g. "intelligent" players like Gascoigne and Rooney being notoriously unintelligent you ask me to stop using examples because "they are not relevant".

Except of course they are, in the context that being an intelligent footballer does not make you an intelligent person. It doesn't for Rooney. It doesn't for Gascoigne, and it doesn't for Gerrard.

It's the most obvious point ever, and I could continue arguing with you that the grass is green and the sky is blue - but why bother? You think Gerrard is intelligent because Craig Bellamy said he had footballing intelligence.

Fine, it's a stupid thing to think, but you're never going to change.

So Gerrard, Mensa member or relatively unintelligent? Decide for yourself.

Of course they are not relevant. The subject was Steven Gerrard & the discussion was about him. You decided to bring Rooney and Gascoigne into the equation because you were floundering which inevitably occurs with your spiel.

See, wrong again.....I don't think Gerrard is intelligent because anyone says he is. I have stated that I have absolutely no knowledge as to the level of his intelligence....remember ? You obviously see things that are not present and decide to try to hoodwink others that you know more than is actually the case (Ibrahimovic & league titles in Sweden ?.........done up like a kipper with that one son)....it doesn't work with me and probably most of the other members you end up arguing your nonsense with.

Gerrard...Mensa member or relatively unintelligent ?.......are you being serious or lying down in a darkened room at the moment ?......

You're correct that I'm not going to change.....as long as you continue blethering your crap I'll question it if it is of any interest to me.

 

[St. Juste]

Of course they are not relevant. The subject was Steven Gerrard & the discussion was about him. You decided to bring Rooney and Gascoigne into the equation because you were floundering which inevitably occurs with your spiel.

See, wrong again.....I don't think Gerrard is intelligent because anyone says he is. I have stated that I have absolutely no knowledge as to the level of his intelligence....remember ? You obviously see things that are not present and decide to try to hoodwink others that you know more than is actually the case (Ibrahimovic & league titles in Sweden ?.........done up like a kipper with that one son)....it doesn't work with me and probably most of the other members you end up arguing your nonsense with.

Gerrard...Mensa member or relatively unintelligent ?.......are you being serious or lying down in a darkened room at the moment ?......

You're correct that I'm not going to change.....as long as you continue blethering your crap I'll question it if it is of any interest to me.

He has been in the public eye for 20 years, pretty much everyone else can attest to his level of intelligence through his thousands of media appearances...except you.

Which is fine, I'm not trying to convince you. You must have no idea as to the intelligence levels of anyone.

Also when considering someones intelligence, you seem to think this should happen in a vacuum and other people should not be used as a comparison. This is nonsensical, of course intelligence has to be relative. You hate the Gascoigne and Rooney examples because they disprove your assertion that footballing intelligence correlates to actual intelligence.

I can see this Ibrahimovic Swedish titles thing coming up hundreds of times in the future. Good, can't say it particularly bothers me. Please ensure you mention it in every post going forward.

 

[Nilsson]

I don't imagine they feel it that way at all. The title was stripped from the club due to the actions of the club, not the players.

Benefiting from cheating = achievements gained from said cheating being tainted.

How is that hard for you to understand?

I'm not sure you're in any position to talk about other people's lack of intelligence, your levels of comprehension are that of a small child.

 

[Abertawe]

Please guys there is no reason to throw insults into the bargain.

 

[Leo]

He has been in the public eye for 20 years, pretty much everyone else can attest to his level of intelligence through his thousands of media appearances...except you.

Yes, he has been in the public eye for a lengthy period. I can say with certainty that I have never ever gone out of my way to watch any interview and if he has been on tv I certainly paid no attention. I have no interest (apart perhaps a passing glance) in any interviews post match (or pre match come to think of it) by players or managers.....they give you no insight whatsoever (especially whether they are members of Mensa or not)....merely soundbites as I already explained to you. I wouldn't imagine I will be alone in this, I don't know and certainly don't care but it appears that watching interviews by Steven Gerrard is a full time pastime for yourself....

Which is fine, I'm not trying to convince you. You must have no idea as to the intelligence levels of anyone.

You won't convince me as I have my own opinion and certainly won't change due to your incorrect haverings matey. And again you're mistaken.....I certainly can attest to the intelligence levels of others.....people that I know, people I have worked with, people I have spoken to face to face but certainly not footballers who I have never known & never will know. THAT just shows how far off the pace you really are.

You hate the Gascoigne and Rooney examples because they disprove your assertion that footballing intelligence correlates to actual intelligence.

....absolutely not and they disprove heehaw and I certainly did NOT assert such a thing.....read back mate. It is simply the fact that G & R are not relevant as to Steven Gerrard's level of intelligence. You really don't have a grip on this do you ?....

Ibrahimovic....Swedish titles...caught out well & truly.....kipper like.........you're raging!

 

[St. Juste]

Benefiting from cheating = achievements gained from said cheating being tainted.

How is that hard for you to understand?

I'm not sure you're in any position to talk about other people's lack of intelligence, your levels of comprehension are that of a small child.

I understand it fine, I just don't agree with it.

You won't convince me as I have my own opinion and certainly won't change due to your incorrect haverings matey. And again you're mistaken.....I certainly can attest to the intelligence levels of others.....people that I know, people I have worked with, people I have spoken to face to face but certainly not footballers who I have never known & never will know. THAT just shows how far off the pace you really are.

Ever seen a joke about Rooney being stupid?

Ever heard of people saying Prince Charles is not intelligent?

Ever heard DIane Abbott being criticised for lack of intelligence?

Well, move on, none of these views are valid. You can only ever judge the intelligence of people you have met.

 

[Leo]

Ever seen a joke about Rooney being stupid?

Ever heard of people saying Prince Charles is not intelligent?

Ever heard DIane Abbott being criticised for lack of intelligence?

Of course I have...And ? Should I believe what other people's opinions about certain people are? Definitely NOT. I make up my own mind obviously unlike yourself going by these examples. I would imagine that there are plenty of people who, being in a better position than you to judge, would emphatically counter and destroy your opinion!

You can only ever judge the intelligence of people you have met.

Correct, that's how I judge people otherwise you can only offer an uneducated opinion like you have been doing throughout. I may believe/think that, going by your posts, you are a complete idiot but I cannot say for certain....all I have to go on is the nonsensical garbage you post here and for me that aint enough to judge your level of intelligence.....know what ah mean mate ?.....

 

[Nilsson]

I understand it fine, I just don't agree with it.

You don't think the players were getting an unfair advantage due to the cheating?

England win the World Cup and Harry Kane is the tournament's top goalscorer. A little while later it's exposed that England bribed their way to victory (Prince Andrew was involved). Sir Harry (as he's now called) had no idea foul play was going on and was simply giving it his all, in your opinion his achievements are not diminished in the slightest?

 

[Stevencc]

I understand it fine, I just don't agree with it.



Ever seen a joke about Rooney being stupid?

Ever heard of people saying Prince Charles is not intelligent?

Ever heard DIane Abbott being criticised for lack of intelligence?

Well, move on, none of these views are valid. You can only ever judge the intelligence of people you have met.

Name more stupid English c***, mate.

 

[Leo]

Name more stupid English c***, mate.

You looking for footballers, Royalty or politicians Steven ? Irrespective I've no doubt that justy lad will be able to accommodate you in an uneducated manner....He's a whizz at that.....

 

[Stevencc]

You looking for footballers, Royalty or politicians Steven ? Irrespective I've no doubt that justy lad will be able to accommodate you in an uneducated manner....He's a whizz at that.....

So long as they are English, I don't think he discriminates by profession.