1st- 2nd April Match Thread

[The_Boss]

We are so after that first confirmed for next season medal.

 

[chipmunx]

We are so after that first confirmed for next season medal.

as in confirmed you can't go up or down?

 

[AÐALSTEINN]

Let's be honest, anyone with half a brain knew we would win the league before a ball was kicked this season.

 

[AÐALSTEINN]

You were easily the best team yesterday but I'll say it again, your players are a bunch of c***. To say that you simply 'stood upto us physically' is the understatement of the year.

Enjoy another failure in the play offs.

 

[Pliny Harris]

You won't need them to be knackered, they are dreadful. A reasonably organised defence but literally nothing else - poor keeper, poor midfield and poor attack.

I hope you're right so terribly much.

And presuming Kidderminster's inevitable comes before the Tuesday after, I hope they won't be one of those 24th placed teams that enjoy the pressure being lifted.

I'm currently having to devote all my working memory to other things to shake off the nervousness I have over our three consecutive games against the strugglers' mini-league. We need to shoot first and ask questions later to find goalscoring form once again.

 

[Back in the DHSS]

Poor 2nd half from Tranmere today. Subbing Hughes and GTF, Tranmere lost all creativity and left a big hole in the middle of the park in which Welling took full advantage of.
Most other results went in our favour so we're not out of it yet!

 

[Boz]

Poor 2nd half from Tranmere today. Subbing Hughes and GTF, Tranmere lost all creativity and left a big hole in the middle of the park in which Welling took full advantage of.
Most other results went in our favour so we're not out of it yet!

I'm not sure we had an option with Hughes, who'd taken a knock earlier, but totally agree re GTF.
While Brabin rejects Margetts and Stockton both got on the score-sheet yesterday, latest striking recruits Fenwick and Higdon offered little when they came on.
What you say about the play-offs is true, though if rivals win their midweek games in hand we'll be out of the top five by next weekend.

 

[stupot]

A game really low on quality today at the Crabble, but we should have got something out of that game. Hit the bar, striker kicks air about 3 yards out. Dover must be a much better side normally, because they were defensively organised but were poor in midfield (bar a 20 min spell from Deverdics), and didn't have a lot up front - Payne just strutted about and Bencherif had Miller in his pocket.

As for Chris Kinnear Jnr what a truly awful awful player. I've never someone epitomise the gets on the pitch because your Dad's the gaffer more - Blair Sturrock levels of bad.

He also, for me, summed up the kind of side Dover are by, on numerous occasions, screaming at an about 8 yr old ball boy for running after the ball "too fast" when they were desperately wasting time for 60 minutes of the game. Really poor stuff.

Ah well, in deep trouble now and have a mammoth week ahead of us.

Spent yesterday afternoon watching Ferriby and Worcester at least saw some goals, but as they are in second was staggered to find out I was one among a crowd of just 250 people!!
Spoke to the guys I stand with at Dover at HT & FT and they both agreed the match didn't stand out for it's quality, and any on show actually came from Halifax who were really unlucky to not only share the points but to collect them all, they too mentioned that miss you referred to from a couple of yards and now eagerly await to see it on the highlights tonight!
You are also not the first, and am sure wont be the last to mention the nepotism that keeps the managers son in the team as on the few occasions I have seen him offers very little except commitment, but they way Dover play, certainly offensively at times they don't really need a midfield as normally they simply blast the ball from one end to another, missing them out altogether, and hope Miller will chase his bollox of trying to close down....was that how it was yesterday?
Might not be pretty, but who can argue that in the main it is hugely affective, and after the quite extraordinary set of results yesterday which no-one would, could of predicted (and even Wrexhams red cards presumably means they will miss the Dover game next week?) and if they win midweek, the little part time club in the middle of bloody nowhere could be five six points clear of the chasers, and what would more established teams give to be in that position?

 

[The_Boss]

as in confirmed you can't go up or down?

Yep. We can't go down now, so can stop all this winning malarkey and be first to the post!!

 

[B2TF]

Spent yesterday afternoon watching Ferriby and Worcester at least saw some goals, but as they are in second was staggered to find out I was one among a crowd of just 250 people!!

Quite. You don't really need it explaining to you do you? Oh go on then. Yes, that's right, they are another one of those "shell" clubs, in other words one with nothing to offer, no infrastructure to speak of because most significantly they have no fans to finance it but have been adopted as a toy by some rich twat intent on destroying non league football in the cause of his own amusement. Due to this alone they are currently at least 2 leagues above their natural level. They first came to our notice when they stopped our run of 10 straight wins in the Evostik Premier when they won 2-0 at The Shay, Neil Aspin's first defeat in the league there and the first in 30 home games. At the time we couldn't understand how a place with only one bus stop in it could assemble a team able to compete with ours. A little research soon provided the depressing answer. This utterly pointless nonsense will continue for as long as the FA are content to look the other way.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

You have to smile at the Eastleigh fans reaction. Moaning buckets at the hoof ball played by both teams yesterday. What do they expect playing on a ploughed field? Pass and move is impossible on that. Invest in your pitch rather than strikers and you have a good chance of seeing some quality football.
Their groundstaff brought out a roller at half time to try and flatten the six yard box beach that cost us an own goal after two minutes!

 

[Davidimp]

This could be 10 years without a top half finish (last time being 7th(?) in L2 in 06/07 under Schofield/Deehan).

I think he'll walk after seeing out the final handful of games. Not won away since November at Torquay, don't do clean sheets, 4 wins in the last 22, too many kids in the squad to justify the youth system etc.

Problem being, if it's left to the Board, they'll keep him for some reason. Simpson got sacked for far less.

Simpson was mainly got rid of because of non footballing reasons.

 

[GTFCfish]

Let's be honest, anyone with half a brain knew we would win the league before a ball was kicked this season.

Ahh so that is how you knew it all along you only have half a brain, that figures.
The rest of us with full brains were more undecided.

Out of curiosity where have you been recently whilst Cheltenham were having their wobble, can't remember you posting much during that time?

 

[Chris FGR]

What about all those Grimsby fans claiming the title in July?

Had a chat with Dean Treleaven yesterday. He said he enjoys reffing FGR games, and that we are not usually a problem. Yesterday was a bit tetchier then usual, but that's what happens this time of year.

So to all you "FGR are dirty" brigade.

 

[Southern Shayman]

What about all those Grimsby fans claiming the title in July?

Had a chat with Dean Treleaven yesterday. He said he enjoys reffing FGR games, and that we are not usually a problem. Yesterday was a bit tetchier then usual, but that's what happens this time of year.

So to all you "FGR are dirty" brigade.

Well that clears that up then. Thanks for convincing me with your overwhelming and compelling evidence.

 

[Chris FGR]

What do you want me to do, secretly film the next time I talk to a ref?

 

[Bluandwite]

That was just the second time he's reffed you this season according to Soccerbase. He also only reffed you twice last season.

New Lawn Regular.

 

[Southern Shayman]

What do you want me to do, secretly film the next time I talk to a ref?

FGR fan talks to professional referee about Forest Green...

He's not going to turn round and say your players are a bunch of bellends is he?

 

[Chris FGR]

He's not going to turn round and say your players are a bunch of bellends is he?

Depends how you ask him.

 

[Chris FGR]

That was just the second time he's reffed you this season according to Soccerbase. He also only reffed you twice last season.

New Lawn Regular.

Lol didn't realise that. Only repeating what he said.

Maybe he's been fourth official or talks to other refs. Either that or he felt intimidated talking to someone like me.

 

[GTFCfish]

Had a chat with Dean Treleaven yesterday. He said he enjoys reffing FGR games, and that we are not usually a problem. Yesterday was a bit tetchier then usual, but that's what happens this time of year.

So to all you "FGR are dirty" brigade.

Well done, you have more points in this table than you do in the actual table:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conference-national/fairnesstabelle/wettbewerb/CNAT

But of course you are not a dirty side, it's because the refs all have it in for FGR etc................

 

[EnglishRed]

What about all those Grimsby fans claiming the title in July?

Had a chat with Dean Treleaven yesterday. He said he enjoys reffing FGR games, and that we are not usually a problem. Yesterday was a bit tetchier then usual, but that's what happens this time of year.

So to all you "FGR are dirty" brigade.

Did you tell him what a poor game he had?

 

[Chris FGR]

Did you tell him what a poor game he had?

No. He didn't have a great game, but it wasn't helped by some of the antics and constant whinging from both sets of players. Both your sending offs were deserved btw, Jennings C is such a mouthy twat and could have gone just for that. Hudson was clumsy and as the last man can have no complaints. As soon as Treleaven pulled us up on the advantage, Jennings had to go really. Not many in the ground, other then his brother who unusually appeared to be trying to argue his case, were too upset to see him go.

Funny to see Gary Mills sprinting towards the away fans punching the air at the full time whistle. You'd think he'd just led his club to the Champions League final, not just somehow hung on for a draw whilst in charge of massive Wrexham against tinpot Forest Green.

 

[veggieeater]

Suspect you were the only person the guy could have talked to Chris, everyone else would have pointed out firstly that he ruined the game, and secondly he needs to keep his cards in his pockets for minor fouls. Pennocks the least likely manager to get upset and even he was fuming.

The sending off of Jennings was daft, he would have done us a much better service keeping him on and letting us score on the break

 

[Chris FGR]

The sending off of Jennings was daft, he would have done us a much better service keeping him on and letting us score on the break

Agree with that, but once he pulled the play back he had to send Jennings off. If Jennings hadn't been in his ear all game, maybe he would have shown some leniency.

And I'm not in the habit of going up to refs and abusing them after a game. Tough job wouldn't do it myself.

And he didn't ruin the game. The two sets of players did. Poor quality, lots of cheating, sly fouls and whinging. And a manager (AP) who was more worried about protesting throw ins and getting in the linesman and fourth officials ear then about his own teams completely clueless approach to attacking the opposition and playing with urgency.

 

[veggieeater]

In fairness Jennings as captain is meant to be the person making representations surely? He and only he is meant to be able to question the ref, and as the ref did get a fair bit wrong he had every right to question things.

He did ruin the game from where I was, the debacle with KMB and the Wrexham player was just showboating, spent around 2 minutes of the game over that. Having 9 players just warps the play hugely.

 

[Greenacres]

Did you tell him what a poor game he had?

He was dreadful, until he took centre stage we had a fairly open contest between two teams who both needed to win the game and one of them probably would have done.

We ended up with something totally farcical, one team defending fiercely and the other without the guile to break them down. In the end I think a scoreless draw was a fair result, but the ref robbed us of a positive outcome.

 

[Chris FGR]

He was dreadful, until he took centre stage we had a fairly open contest between two teams who both needed to win the game and one of them probably would have done.

We ended up with something totally farcical, one team defending fiercely and the other without the guile to break them down. In the end I think a scoreless draw was a fair result, but the ref robbed us of a positive outcome.

So which red card would you not have given? The one where the last man brought down Guthrie, or the one where a player already on a yellow cynically tripped an opponent off the ball?

Both were reds by the letter of the law. Not giving them would have seen the assessor mark the referee down.

And to say the ref robbed us of a positive outcome is wrong, until they went down to 9 men we barely had a chance. We only looked dangerous once the ref had helped us out. Before that it was a sterile game, as pretty much all our games are, whoever the ref is.

 

[Harrier94]

Well done, you have more points in this table than you do in the actual table:

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/conference-national/fairnesstabelle/wettbewerb/CNAT

But of course you are not a dirty side, it's because the refs all have it in for FGR etc................

I like those stats

 

[Greenacres]

So which red card would you not have given? The one where the last man brought down Guthrie, or the one where a player already on a yellow cynically tripped an opponent off the ball?

Both were reds by the letter of the law. Not giving them would have seen the assessor mark the referee down.

And to say the ref robbed us of a positive outcome is wrong, until they went down to 9 men we barely had a chance. We only looked dangerous once the ref had helped us out. Before that it was a sterile game, as pretty much all our games are, whoever the ref is.

The red for the trip on Guthrie was nailed on, he was denied a clear goal-scoring opportunity and the offender was the last defender. If the ref had been firmer earlier on, and not used cards to try and regain control on the game, then the first yellow for Jennings might have been avoided. As for robbing us of a positive outcome, I meant for either team. It was obvious that Wrexham were going to try and shut up shop once they started losing players, which they did fairly effectively, we didn't have the guile or accuracy of shooting to punish them. At the point where the ref took centre stage the game was starting to open up nicely. I felt that our best chance of scoring a goal was by hitting them on the break, and for Wrexham doing the same to us, clearly that wasn't ever going to happen with them having two less players as they retreated and gave up attacking.