2019/20 National League North

[Bluandwite]

Asante's goal's alone this season will put you guys in with a shout. Deffo gonna be thereabout's come next spring.

He's made of glass but the good thing this season is we've got a plethora of really decent forward options to fall back on unlike last season if he is out.

13 goals in 15 appearances for us he has and only completed 90 minutes once.

 

[Harrier94]

He may have missed an open goal on Saturday but outside of that Chambers has been on fire. His second and our 5th to secure the game was a great finish

https://twitter.com/x/status/1166483859376152581

 

[Alty Pieman]

What the hell happened to Alty said “any team who finished above them would win the league”
Looked good in first game,got main players back and seem to going backwards rapidly.

This may sound like excuses but what could go wrong, has gone wrong x 2 !
Started season with 3 key players missing, 2 injured one suspended for 3 games and then things got worse, lost yet more key players, Arnold leaves,.. we conceded two 93rd min equalisers in games we had won, lost our best defender sent off first half and injured, play most of the game in baking heat with 10men, nearly win it,.. then in the 88th minute our keeper ruptures his achilles leaving us with 9 men and a winger in goal, Darlo then float one over his little arms and into the net. At Boston, manager tries to rotate squad as many were knackered and it backfires ! Ironically, we had not lost away since January and now lost 2 on the trot.

You couldnt make it up

 

[Minstermen central]

McGuire had an operation and put for 6 weeks,McLaughlin out for a while longer.McNulty struggling to be fit ,looks like September could be a hard month.
On a separate note,new ground is taking shape shouldn’t be to long.

 

[ForeverUnited]

We’ve appointed Russell Slade as our new manager.

 

[Hufcat]

We’ve appointed Russell Slade as our new manager.

Pleased with that - plenty of experience at a higher level and with us almost certainly going full time at the end of the season, hopefully he will be the man to take us forward.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Unless he has changed his style I don’t think Slade will work out.

Not that I think he’s poor, but in my couple of years watching this level I am finding teams have success with a good squad with a manager who will have a go home and away.

I don’t think the ‘go for 1-0’ defend approach can work at this level very easily

 

[#Beebot]

He's done awfully everywhere he's been since Orient. Coventry and Grimsby were particularly bad. I can't help but view him as a poor manager at any level.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Slade is an older Ricco with a lot more experience but less time in Dymock cricket club.

 

[Luke Imp]

Slade is an absolutely dinosaur now. He's only won 19 of his last 80 games or so.

Son of Cod Frealaf GTFCfish BlackHaddock les.gtfc will be able to give you the lowdown of his Grimsby tenure.

 

[Hufcat]

Things haven’t worked out for him in the recent past - but look at the level we are at. If he had been successful he wouldn’t be joining us in the National North! We are looking to go full time next season and I think it’s a decent appointment to move forward. Will have plenty of contacts to pick up players (which we severely lacked with Richards) and he will help the transition to full time. Obviously it’s a results driven industry and he will ultimately be judged on the results he gets however I’m not sure we could’ve got anyone with as much experience and know how and who’s had his career predominately at a higher level.

 

[Bluandwite]

Complete waste of money going full time at this level. We're hybrid and that's as far as you need to go. I think Stockport are still hybrid since promotion as well.

 

[Quakerz]

Complete waste of money going full time at this level. We're hybrid and that's as far as you need to go. I think Stockport are still hybrid since promotion as well.

What exactly is hybrid and how does it work practically?

 

[Bluandwite]

What exactly is hybrid and how does it work practically?

We reverted back to standard part time last season two nights training per week. This season as hybrid it's four training sessions a week with Monday morning, Tuesday night, Thursday night and Friday morning. Increase in wages. Part time players who can't commit to the extra allowed to skip Monday training.

More than standard part time but less than full time basically.

 

[Quakerz]

We reverted back to standard part time last season two nights training per week. This season as hybrid it's four training sessions a week with Monday morning, Tuesday night, Thursday night and Friday morning. Increase in wages. Part time players who can't commit to the extra allowed to skip Monday training.

More than standard part time but less than full time basically.

What sort of split do you have between full time and part time? And what sort of increase in the overall wage bill are we looking at?

I believe we are looking towards hybrid next season.

 

[Luke Imp]

I think Southport went hybrid in their final NL season, Swedes?

 

[DarkSithLord]

I think Southport went hybrid in their final NL season, Swedes?

Southport are defo Full Time. Had that confirmed on Monday. Not sure if thats full FT or hybrid though

 

[Railway Blue]

Complete waste of money going full time at this level. We're hybrid and that's as far as you need to go. I think Stockport are still hybrid since promotion as well.

Judging by the shite Hereford dished up at ours' last Saturday they'll need more than Slade and f/t to sort themselves out.

 

[DarkSithLord]

A trip to Aggbrough tomorrow to face a Kidderminster side under John Pemberton who have had the greatest start to the season but sit in 9th place and are still searching for their first home win of the campaign.

Alfreton have started very well. Billy seems to have got a group of players tomorrow who responded to his instructions unlike last season. We currently boast the best home record in the league and despite the fact we are away I am confident of us repeating the trick of last season and coming away with three points.

 

[Quakerz]

So that's quite a few full time or hybrid clubs now in this league - by my reckoning York, Chester, Southport, Kidderminster, Hereford, any more out there?

 

[Bluandwite]

We've signed midfielder George Glendon most recently at Carlisle on a short term deal.

Injuries to Stopforth and Roberts have brought it on.

 

[bristolbull]

So that's quite a few full time or hybrid clubs now in this league - by my reckoning York, Chester, Southport, Kidderminster, Hereford, any more out there?

we are still a fully part-time side at the moment training tue and thurs evenings,though that may change sooner rather than later.
Not convinced by slades appointment,feels a bit like another martin foyle style manager, with hoofball the order of the day,hope to be proved wrong though,and maybe at least he can get 11 players looking like an actual team rather than a group of individuals with no idea of what they are doing.
Oh and gateshead are still full-time i believe.

 

[Railway Blue]

So that's quite a few full time or hybrid clubs now in this league - by my reckoning York, Chester, Southport, Kidderminster, Hereford, any more out there?

I thought York were F/T?

 

[Swedes]

I think Southport went hybrid in their final NL season, Swedes?

We went hybrid in in 2011/12, and ended up just missing out on the NL playoffs. We did it with training Monday daytime, Tuesday night and Thursday night, and often travelled to long-distance away games on the Friday. It worked well for us in that it gave us extra training, and we kept hold of some players who wanted to stay part-time and keep their other employment.

We've pretty much done every other model of training since, often depending on what our many managers have wanted. As DSL says, we are now full-time, which is just ridiculous on gates of 800-900 and no money man behind us. It won't last beyond this season.

 

[Who Needs Mourinho]

Complete waste of money going full time at this level. We're hybrid and that's as far as you need to go. I think Stockport are still hybrid since promotion as well.

We are indeed - the noise out of the club was that we would go to full-time this season but without significant extra investment I think Gannon has decided we are better off staying as we are.

I believe we have two or three players who are in ‘proper jobs’ so can only generally attend the evening sessions, then the rest either have jobs that can be worked around the four training sessions, work for the club on the community programmes or just live on their football wages - these are mainly the younger players.

 

[WAY22]

I thought York were F/T?

We are

 

[Quakerz]

we are still a fully part-time side at the moment training tue and thurs evenings,though that may change sooner rather than later.
Not convinced by slades appointment,feels a bit like another martin foyle style manager, with hoofball the order of the day,hope to be proved wrong though,and maybe at least he can get 11 players looking like an actual team rather than a group of individuals with no idea of what they are doing.
Oh and gateshead are still full-time i believe.

Of course, Gateshead, yes.

What concerns me about yourselves, and also Spendy More, is that you both have huge budgets comparitively, yet are wasting it on part time players? This isn't a dig at the size of your budgets (I heard 700k for Hereford?), and it's not me asking you to explain if you can afford it or not - but the point here is that if the figures are to be believed it is inevitable that you will have some players on 800, 900 maybe even a grand a week.

Those sorts of figures will pay full time players so why not just be full time? It makes no sense to throw that sort of money around and remain part time.

Also, if your budget is the size it is now to be part time, how much further would you have to increase it to go full time? Those players aren't going to accept the same pay to do twice as much "work". Having such a large part time budget could backfire on you due to the inflated part time wages increasing expectations of players signing for you in future.

 

[Quakerz]

We went hybrid in in 2011/12, and ended up just missing out on the NL playoffs. We did it with training Monday daytime, Tuesday night and Thursday night, and often travelled to long-distance away games on the Friday. It worked well for us in that it gave us extra training, and we kept hold of some players who wanted to stay part-time and keep their other employment.

We've pretty much done every other model of training since, often depending on what our many managers have wanted. As DSL says, we are now full-time, which is just ridiculous on gates of 800-900 and no money man behind us. It won't last beyond this season.

You won't last this season if you are F/T on 800. Clearly someone somewhere has to be topping up that budget if you are to survive longer.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Quiet on here today?

Kidderminster 0-1 Alfreton

8 games and we have not put in a single poor performance yet. Ground out a hard fought 1-0 today. Very similar performance, result and even a similar goal to last season with a back post header from a corner.

Very sparse crowd of a 1,183 by Kidderminster standards normally 1,500 +. I can see why though. Kiddy looked a bit light up front and I never felt like we were in any danger.

At this stage last season following a 1-0 away win at Darlington we had exactly the same record. Chesterfield plucked Denton and the rest was history as they say so Chesterfield can keep their mitts off Amari Morgan Smith!

Tuesday night at Kings Lynn looks tasty. 2nd v 3rd. Two sides with the best home records in the league and top of the form guide so absolutely gutted that I am working! A huge test of our promotion credentials.

 

[Bluandwite]

Cheated.

1 up and cruising and then Danny Livesey sent off for two yellows in a minute. The first for having the nerve to complain about being smashed in the face with blood pouring everywhere. The second yellow for coming back on the pitch without permission after getting bandaged up. Ref waved his hand and lino near me tells Livesey he can go back on. Ref then says he was waving for a free kick instead. Jonno went apoplectic.

Absolute farce. They then scored two really weird goals through cock ups. Not Spennymoor's fault but they were really poor. Restricted them to next to nothing.