2024/25 League Two Relegation Thread

[BigDaveCUFC]

I’d still not rule you out, you still remind me a lot of Carlisle in 2000/2001 when Ian atkins dealt with all the same off field type of crap Adam’s has and worked on nothing for ages and is looking doomed.

But you have one thing on Carlisle and I’d say tranmere and that is ‘unity’ a united front against a poor owner and numerous roadblocks thrown in front of you.

We won’t get that at Carlisle, it will be tight your certainly in trouble but if Adam’s can somehow build the teamwork, unity and a two fingers up at the rest approach into his squad it maybe could help.

The only issue against that as harsh as it sounds is your small crowds, that season we could still take 1,000 to Rochdale watch us be hammered 6-0 but most of that 1,000 fans backed the team all game then get 6,000 odd the next home game vs Blackpool and that togetherness dragged out a shock win……….Morecambe fans are gonna have to make noise from the lower numbers

 

[Boz]

I hope that whoever drops out of the league this season does so on footballing reasons. Of the sides I've seen play this season, the Shrimps are not in the bottom two, have seen three worse than them including my own team.

Tranmere co-chair. Mark Palios has broken his recent silence, by a response to fans letters, which has been put onto Facebook. The following are the two key points for me;

Mark was hospitalised over Christmas; no more details but he has previously had cancer.

The money we are paying for players wages takes us significantly close to the budget cap and it is the most we have ever paid. While he doesn't categorically rule out any incomings, the implication is this is unlikely. The fact that Adkins invested so much in players that are useless (Davison) toxic (Finley) or unnecessary (Norman) and failed to hold any funds back for this window are an indictment of exactly how poor his judgement has been.

 

[GTFCfish]

A Carlisle fan reading the above few posts…..

 

[hellogregory]

Good win for us today.

One win doesn’t change my view that we’re 100% down. The team needs to prove that it can win 2 or 3 games back to back for me to reassess my views on that. But I’m hoping it can at least be the start of the new players settling in and hopefully improving us over time ahead of our massive task next season of trying to get promoted back to the football league.

 

[BarraMatt]

Good win for us today.

One win doesn’t change my view that we’re 100% down. The team needs to prove that it can win 2 or 3 games back to back for me to reassess my views on that. But I’m hoping it can at least be the start of the new players settling in and hopefully improving us over time ahead of our massive task next season of trying to get promoted back to the football league.

Fancied you to win that one today, one of my main criticisms of Wild's management was getting overly wound up about certain bigger or 'local' games and I reckon he especially would've wanted to win that one given how he fared against you while he was here.

 

[BarraMatt]

Good win for us today which extends our buffer over the bottom two to 10 points. Realistically looking at needing 19 points from 20 games. Three of the next four games at home with the away game at Newport. Real chance to back this up now and get ourselves a good proportion of the way there.

 

[JJ1990]

52 - Guaranteed Survival
51 -
50 -
49 -
48 -
47 - Average Survival(00/01-23/24)
46 - Crewe(27), Doncaster(27)
45 - Port Vale(27)
44 - AFC Wimbledon(25), Notts County(26), Bradford(26)
43 -
42 - Salford(26)
41 -
40 -
39 -
38 - Expected Survival Grimsby(27)
37 -
36 - Chesterfield(26)
35 -
34 - Colchester(27), Cheltenham(26)
33 - Fleetwood(25)
32 - MK Dons(24), Bromley(25)
31 - Barrow(26), Gillingham(25), Swindon(28)
30 -
29 - Harrogate(28)
28 - Accrington(25)
27 -
26 - Newport(25), Tranmere(26)
25 -
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24 -
23 -
22 -
21 - Carlisle(26)
20 - Morecambe(26)

Carlisle off the bottom and they close the gap to 5 points. Big confidence boosting win. Morecambe get a very harsh red card against Colchester and slip to defeat. With their transfer embargo, it's starting to look very bleak for them in terms of staying up. Tranmere get a point against Gillingham, but it's not enough you feel. Newport are slipping closer to trouble. Accrington get a big win at Crewe. Harrogate get 1 point from 2 games but no goals scored. Swindon are dragging themselves clear with a few wins and we have a new entrant in the bottom 8 in Gillingham. A fair fall from grace after their lofty pre-season expectations.

17th: Gillingham, 31 points, GD -3: Grimsby(A), Notts County(H), Barrow(A), Walsall(A), Crewe(H)
18th: Swindon, 31 points, GD -6: Tranmere(H), Carlisle(A), Port Vale(H), Harrogate(A), Chesterfield(H)
19th: Harrogate, 29 points, GD -15: MK Dons(A), Crewe(H), Bradford(A), Swindon(H), Bromley(A)
20th: Accrington, 28 points, GD -10: Cheltenham(H), Port Vale(A), Wimbledon(H), Bradford(A), Morecambe(A)
21st: Newport, 26 points, GD -12: Salford(A), Barrow(H), Crewe(A), Carlisle(H), Bradford(H)
22nd: Tranmere, 26 points, GD -21: Swindon(A), Colchester(H), Salford(A), Fleetwood(H), MK Dons(H)
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23rd: Carlisle, 21 points, GD -19: Notts County(A), Swindon(H), Grimsby(A), Newport(A), Colchester(H)
24th: Morecambe, 20 points, GD -19: Bradford(A), Fleetwood(H), Notts County(A), Accrington(H), Doncaster(H)

Next week's fixtures:

Tuesday 28th January
Accrington Stanley v Cheltenham Town
Bradford City v Morecambe
Grimsby Town v Gillingham
Milton Keynes Dons v Harrogate Town
Notts County v Carlisle United
Salford City v Newport County
Swindon Town v Tranmere Rovers

Saturday 1st February
Gillingham v Notts County
Carlisle United v Swindon Town
Harrogate Town v Crewe Alexandra
Morecambe v Fleetwood Town
Newport County v Barrow
Port Vale v Accrington Stanley
Tranmere Rovers v Colchester United

Some tough looking games for the strugglers in the next week.

 

[GTFCfish]

RESURGENT Carlisle Utd.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Not yet but I would say that Swindon, Grimsby, Newport, Colchester clump of games is the last chance saloon period

 

[hellogregory]

RESURGENT Carlisle Utd.

You’ve got our fans to a tee here.

This is what we do (apart from me, Dave and a few others), one win and suddenly we’ve turned the corner and people *cough* carver start getting carried away talking about staying up, mid table, playoffs, finals, promotions. Then when we lose the following game they quickly realise the win was a flash in the pan. But they’ll do the same next time we win whenever that may be.

As I keep saying, we can win a game every now and then, maybe even every month. But until we can prove that we can string a few wins together we are 100% going down. We haven’t strung even two together for best part of two years.

 

[Carver]

You’ve got our fans to a tee here.

This is what we do (apart from me, Dave and a few others), one win and suddenly we’ve turned the corner and people *cough* carver start getting carried away talking about staying up, mid table, playoffs, finals, promotions. Then when we lose the following game they quickly realise the win was a flash in the pan. But they’ll do the same next time we win whenever that may be.

As I keep saying, we can win a game every now and then, maybe even every month. But until we can prove that we can string a few wins together we are 100% going down. We haven’t strung even two together for best part of two years.

Can still get a total 81 points so automatic promotion is still possible, stranger things have happened..

 

[hellogregory]

Can still get a total 81 points so automatic promotion is still possible, stranger things have happened..

No Carver, stranger things than that haven’t happened.

 

[Tinpot and proud]

Can still get a total 81 points so automatic promotion is still possible, stranger things have happened..

You’ve had your Glass moment…..lightning doesn't strike twice so they say….you will probably stay up, but that’s as far as redemption goes I think.