2024/25 League Two Relegation Thread

[THE LAST WALTZ]

Gillingham hadn't won in 50 games and we roll into town. The 1-0 defeat and shit performance was so obvious, that I didn't bother watching. From what's been said though, we were awful.

Derek's stubborness to change things is killing us at the moment. The one man who needs to be consistent is making some odd decisions atm. Poor lineups, outcasting our best midfielder, late subs and a complete lack of width is happening at the wrong time. It's all gone to pot since the Accy win.

This loss feels like the killer blow.

To be honest mate, your lot were pretty poor on Saturday, and yea, it was our first win in 14 games.

 

[chipmunx]

whilst there's still a long way to go the 6 point gap from Accrington to the bottom 3 is starting to look very significant.

 

[Scum.]

whilst there's still a long way to go the 6 point gap from Accrington to the bottom 3 is starting to look very significant.

Fucking hope so. We’ve engineered ourselves into this picture with 2 wins in 17. We haven’t had a shot on target for the last 2 matches. That would be a start…

 

[Boz]

whilst there's still a long way to go the 6 point gap from Accrington to the bottom 3 is starting to look very significant.

I agree with this and Accrington have a game in hand too. If only we’d managed to take something from our recent home game with Stanley the picture might be less bleak. Though we’d have been stuck with Adkins so swings and roundabouts…

I can’t see Rovers taking much from the next couple of games; Bromley H and Bradford A so heading into the end of March we are likely to be bottom two.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

To be fair gillingham and no dons are more likely the ones of any outside the top 3 to drop.

Both seem in such dire form and confidence I don’t see either grabbing much and it’s more for them have they enough

 

[EnglishRed]

To be fair gillingham and no dons are more likely the ones of any outside the top 3 to drop.

Both seem in such dire form and confidence I don’t see either grabbing much and it’s more for them have they enough

For those two to be down there with their budgets is appalling. Carlisle too of course but it's sometimes hard to turn around bad form after a relegation so at least there is a bit of a reason there. MK and Gills should both be challenging for promotion.

 

[Dan Phillips]

For those two to be down there with their budgets is appalling. Carlisle too of course but it's sometimes hard to turn around bad form after a relegation so at least there is a bit of a reason there. MK and Gills should both be challenging for promotion.

What's this I keep seeing about Gillingham should be challenging at the top? Their squad is fucking dire?

At least MK have decent players. They've just massively fucked it up throughout the season.

 

[BarraMatt]

Two of four I reckon. Accy looked poor today, had to leave on 60 mins but apart from a chance which produced an excellent save from Farman, barely threatened.

 

[クレイグ]

Big win for Tranmere. Wouldn't surprise me if they beat us next week.

 

[kieran_vale]

Tranmere got a nice little bounce since Crosby took over. They gave us a tough time last Saturday and seem to be backing it up and that’s a quality win against Bromley. Pleased for Crosby who is a likeable chap.

 

[hellogregory]

Are there any deluded Carlisle fans still thinking we can get out of this?

This team is so predictably shit.

 

[JJ1990]

61 - Mathematical Survival
51 -
50 -
49 - Fleetwood(36)
48 -
47 - Average Survival
46 - Swindon(36), Cheltenham(35)
45 - Chesterfield(34)
44 -
43 - Barrow(35), Newport(35)
42 - MK Dons(35)
41 - Gillingham(35)
40 - Harrogate(36)
39 -
38 - Expected Survival,
37 -
36 - Accrington(35)
35 -
34 -
33 - Tranmere(35)
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32 -
31 -
30 -
29 - Morecambe(36)
28 -
27 - Carlisle(35)

Not a great week for the bottom 2. Whilst Carlisle get a respectable point against Walsall, a defeat at Harrogate, in what looked to be a winnable game, is a hammer blow for them. Morecambe get a good home win over Wimbledon, but then can't hold on to a lead against MK Dons, which is not ideal at this stage of the season.

Tranmere get a massive win and they've now taken 5 points from 3 games under Andy Crosby to move themselves a little bit clear of danger, but they're still in trouble. Accy got a midweek win over MK Dons, but then lost to Barrow. They should be fine, but they'll need some more wins. Harrogate are doing what they need to do to get over the line as they always do and Gillingham are showing small signs of improvement after back to back home wins. MK also pick up a big win and Newport are back in the bottom 8 despite a midweek win as their away form continues to be very poor.

You feel time is running out for the bottom 2, neither look to have enough goals or quality to drag themselves clear at this point. Be interesting to see if anything changes.

17th: Newport, 43 points, GD -11: Accrington(A), Harrogate(H), Grimsby(A), Notts County(H), Bromley(A), Carlisle(A), Colchester(H), MK Dons(A), Walsall(H), Fleetwood(A), Tranmere(H)
18th: MK Dons, 42 points, GD -4: Port Vale(A), Cheltenham(A), Carlisle(A), Fleetwood(H), Notts County(A), Barrow(H), Gillingham(A), Newport(H), Crewe(A), Grimsby(H), Swindon(A)
19th: Gillingham, 41 points, GD -8: Accrington(A), Walsall(H), Harrogate(A), Colchester(H), Salford(A), Chesterfield(A), MK Dons(H), Cheltenham(A), AFC Wimbledon(H), Swindon(H), Port Vale(A)
20th: Harrogate, 40 points, GD -16: Newport(A), Chesterfield(A), Gillingham(H), Tranmere(H), Wimbledon(A), Grimsby(H), Walsall(A), Fleetwood(H), Notts County(H)
21st: Accrington, 36 points, GD -15: Newport(H), Gillingham(H), Swindon(A), Bradford(H), Fleetwood(H), Bromley(A), Tranmere(H), Salford(A), Carlisle(H), Walsall(A), Chesterfield(H)
22nd: Tranmere, 33 points, GD -28: Bradford(A), Fleetwood(A), Cheltenham(H), Harrogate(A), Chesterfield(H), Accrington(A), Doncaster(H), Barrow(A), Crewe(H), Newport(A)
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23rd: Morecambe, 29 points, GD -23: Barrow(H), Port Vale(A), Swindon(H), Cheltenham(H), Grimsby(A), Carlisle(H), Bromley(A), Salford(H), Chesterfield(A), Harrogate(H)
24th: Carlisle, 27 points, GD -26: Wimbledon(H), Bromley(H), MK Dons(H), Doncaster(A), Chesterfield(A), Newport(H), Morecambe(A), Port Vale(H), Accrington(A), Cheltenham(A), Salford(H)

Looking at the run ins of all these teams, I can't really say one team has it easier or harder than the others. Carlisle have some favourable home games, but tough away games. Looks really balanced though, which will make things interesting.

Forthcoming Fixtures:

Tuesday 8th March
Accrington Stanley v Newport County

Saturday 15th March
Accrington Stanley v Gillingham
Bradford City v Tranmere Rovers
Carlisle United v AFC Wimbledon
Morecambe v Barrow
Newport County v Harrogate Town

Accrington could solidify their L2 status with 4-6 points this week. Newport could do the same. Few 6 pointers at the weekend, if Morecambe can find a way to beat Barrow and Tranmere lose at Bradford, then that'll really spice things up.

 

[Kauto Star]

Tranmere got a nice little bounce since Crosby took over. They gave us a tough time last Saturday and seem to be backing it up and that’s a quality win against Bromley. Pleased for Crosby who is a likeable chap.

I hope we burst their little bubble next weekend. Despite all our injuries, we should have enough to beat them

 

[Robshep]

I hope we burst their little bubble next weekend. Despite all our injuries, we should have enough to beat them

That scumbag who got sentenced for posting vile comments about the Bradford fire was NOT a Tranmere supporter and the club have demanded that Merseyside Police apologise for associating the club with him.

 

[EnglishRed]

What's this I keep seeing about Gillingham should be challenging at the top? Their squad is fucking dire?

At least MK have decent players. They've just massively fucked it up throughout the season.

Because of the money they've spent over the last few years, and the comments from their owner about them being sleeping giants etc.

 

[Dan Phillips]

Because of the money they've spent over the last few years, and the comments from their owner about them being sleeping giants etc.

That's Americans for you.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

The one thing tranmere have is Dennis and Patrick, they are both ‘on their day’ bloody good forwards in this league, just very erratic and can go from spells being bloody good (Dennis got 20 odd goals for us just couple of seasons back) to total wasters.

Atkins got nothing out of either of their caretaker or new manager can get some form they have goals……something Morecambe and Carlisle don’t.

 

[Scum.]

You would assume that win over Morecambe basically just guaranteed our survival, even if we don't pick up another point this season. Massive win.

 

[ShrimpsMeltdown]

We won't win another away game this season, sounded like another crap display at the weekend and results went against us in terms of chasing the pack above us.

If Tranmere have picked up performance-wise then that's us probably done, however we do have 6 home games out of the 10 left.

I was previously looking at Accy to catch but they are probably too far away now, plus will obviously win their game in hand tomorrow against Newport. Harrogate's win vs Carlisle has them over the line now i think.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

It’s 2 from 3 it has been all season.

I don’t think tranmere will surge away they had a good home win but I think Carlisle and Morecambe will assume they have a chance home to Bromley….who can be very one way or other results wise like fleetwood.

Morale seems to have dropped big time at Carlisle after Saturday, I don’t think it was as such the defeat although the late goal was a kicker but more the lack of fight, from what I’ve read fan morale is low, feeling now seems to be more towards anger than support, a fan stormed onto team bus on Saturday to blast the players etc etc

This now is supposed to be the time of ‘unity’ even when you frankly hate the team but it’s just such feeble unity at Carlisle it can disintegrate quickly.

Still think it’s Carlisle down, it’s between Morecambe and Tranmere for other, did think Morecambe would survive but Tranmere have to improve to put pressure on others to deliver.

Carlisle frankly just need to focus on the longer term, stop this constant short term crap which has lumped club with 50 awful players, work now on who is worth keeping and what 3-4 (not 13-14) players need to be added to it

 

[JJ1990]

58 - Mathematical Survival
51 - Chesterfield(37)
50 - Cheltenham(37)
49 - Fleetwood(37)
48 -
47 - Average Survival, Swindon(37)
46 - Newport(37)
45 -
44 - Barrow(36)
43 -
42 - MK Dons(36), Gillingham(36)
41 -
40 - Accrington(37), Harrogate(37)
39 -
38 - Expected Survival
37 -
36 - Tranmere(37)
35 -
34 -
33 -
32 -
31 -
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30 - Morecambe(37)
29 -
28 -
27 - Carlisle(36)

Is this the week the relegation battle was called? Feels like it. I'm also omitting any side currently on over 40 points, as the possibility of one of them being sucked into danger feels very unlikely at this stage as neither Morecambe or Carlisle have shown any inklings of being able to string together a run of wins.

20th: Accrington, 40 points, GD -10: Swindon(A), Bradford(H), Fleetwood(H), Bromley(A), Tranmere(H), Salford(A), Carlisle(H), Walsall(A), Chesterfield(H)
21st: Harrogate, 40 points, GD -19: Chesterfield(A), Gillingham(H), Tranmere(H), Wimbledon(A), Grimsby(H), Walsall(A), Fleetwood(H), Notts County(H)
22nd: Tranmere, 36 points, GD -28: Fleetwood(A), Cheltenham(H), Harrogate(A), Chesterfield(H), Accrington(A), Doncaster(H), Barrow(A), Crewe(H), Newport(A)
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23rd: Morecambe, 30 points, GD -23: Port Vale(A), Swindon(H), Cheltenham(H), Grimsby(A), Carlisle(H), Bromley(A), Salford(H), Chesterfield(A), Harrogate(H)
24th: Carlisle, 27 points, GD -27: Bromley(H), MK Dons(H), Doncaster(A), Chesterfield(A), Newport(H), Morecambe(A), Port Vale(H), Accrington(A), Cheltenham(A), Salford(H)

Forthcoming Fixtures:

Saturday 22nd March
Carlisle United v Bromley
Chesterfield v Harrogate Town
Fleetwood Town v Tranmere Rovers
Port Vale v Morecambe
Swindon Town v Accrington Stanley

No midweek games, but all 5 of the strugglers are playing next Saturday. Carlisle really are into now or never territory, I don't see them staying up, but 4-6 points from their next 2 gives them a fighting chance. Morecambe. Harrogate, Tranmere and Accy all have games you'd say they could pinch against mid-table sides, whilst Morecambe look to have a tough game at Port Vale. Hard to see many wins from this lot, also hard to see a path to survival for either of the bottom 2 at this point.

 

[hellogregory]

I think Tranmere sacking Adkins has done Morecambe and they will be joining us.

Tranmere remind me of us a bit when we sacked Millen and got Simpson 3 years ago. They have the new manager bounce, momentum and are now going to pull away and pretty much nail safety over the coming weeks.

 

[jojo]

I can see us just dying after relegation, back to the wilderness after completely gutted as we got dismantled over the last 2 years by our owner who is a total tool, i wish every league two team farewell

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

all 3 are crap it’s just that tranmeee and Morecambe are battling and sadly Carlisle don’t even give a crap.

All 3 got mostly outplayed today all 3 created very little but the other two dug in deep and scrapped and battled to keep ball out and took their chances when they came.

We walked out to a huge home match started the game then conceded in first minute of each half.

When your crap you cannot dominate games you just have to battle and we have absolutely none.

 

[Conker]

Gillingham new owner at the time it was pretty obvious he was a bit useless, their fans didnt want to hear it. Hopefully he will learn on the job because the value hes getting from the money spent is absymal.