Alan Pardew: "Mourinho is shit and I'm the daddy"

[G.B]

Needs to beat West Brom next week to avoid going 10 league games without a win.

#PardewForEngland


In other news, Villa are up to 11th in the form table. Garde deserves some sort of medal.

 

[mistermagic]

Won at Spurs and in the Cup quarter-finals.

Yeah he's proper rubbish.

 

[G.B]

we also won at spurs and we're shit.

3 points from their last 27, including a loss to villa. glad you agree with me mate.

 

[Anon]

Hasn't Pardew always had spells of great form followed by bad, then rinse repeat?

 

[G.B]

more brief moments of good form followed by long spells of horrific form. but as he so intelligently said, it's difficult when it's you vs science.

 

[G-Dragon]

Bet newcastle are regretting it.

 

[G.B]

Regretting what?

 

[Bilo]

Every decision in the past three years?

Nah Shelvey will come good. Maybe. 50/50.

 

[HarvSFC]

Regretting what?

Steve McClaren

 

[G.B]

Steve McClaren is a national treasure.

 

[mistermagic]

Didn't hear much of anti-Pards bollocks during December mate. He's a good manager.

 

[G.B]

His career record seems to suggest that's nonsense mate. I'd also question his ability to lead by example given he's bat shit crazy.

 

[Anon]

His career record seems to suggest that's nonsense mate. I'd also question his ability to lead by example given he's bat shit crazy.

Does it? His career is peaks and troughs, and his teams go through spells of good form and bad.

He did well at Reading iirc, then came to us, got promotion in the 2nd season on a budget with good young English players and playing decent football - then we finished tenth in the Prem and almost won the FA Cup. Then it fell apart the next season but obviously some (not all) goes down to the Joorabchian influence, Ashton getting crocked for England, second season syndrome etc.

Charlton wasn't good, though arguably already a sinking ship, and from what I recall Southampton fans reckon he laid some solid foundations with the squad without getting the success.

And then to Newcastle, where despite working under Ashley, Joe F'in Kinnear and his one loanee, fans who never liked him... he pushed you for the CL one year and never got you as close to relegation as Carver did. Then he leaves, the bottom falls out completely, and Ashley suddenly realises Pardew was keeping a squad afloat that another manager needed £70m+ spent on it.

He's a decent manager.

 

[Abertawe]

Pardew is a decent manager. The barcodes are so confused with their delusions it causes em to distort the truth.

Pardew or McClaren, LOL. You'd have thought the utter dross served up this season despite spending millions would've opened their eyes to Pardew's worth, seemingly not. They gotta be the thickest fanbase in the country.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Pardew is a decent manager. The barcodes are so confused with their delusions it causes em to distort the truth.

Pardew or McClaren, LOL. You'd have thought the utter dross served up this season despite spending millions would've opened their eyes to Pardew's worth, seemingly not. They gotta be the thickest fanbase in the country.

Is it just me who sees the irony in two Liverpool fans liking this post?

 

[G.B]

Does it?

Yes mate, I already explained that in my (excellent) opening post. I suppose Reading is his claim to achieving something, but obviously that's irrelevant as it was lower league and nobody cares about that. The rest of his career is comprised of relegation, violent conduct and setting multiple records (not the good kind).

 

[mistermagic]

Yes mate, I already explained that in my (excellent) opening post. I suppose Reading is his claim to achieving something, but obviously that's irrelevant as it was lower league and nobody cares about that. The rest of it his career is comprised of relegation, violent conduct and setting multiple records (not the good kind).

I'll give you violent conduct but the rest just makes you come across as bitter just like most Newcastle fans are stereotyped to be. Poor form dude.

 

[G.B]

I'll give you violent conduct but the rest just makes you come across as bitter just like most Newcastle fans are stereotyped to be. Poor form dude.

Interesting mate. Why wont you give me relegation or multiple unwanted records? These are things that also happened, as well as nutting opposition players (the 7 game ban he got for that is another unwanted record fyi) and physically attacking assistant referees etc.

Why do you think I'm bitter?

 

[Stevencc]

Can I just interject here and offer up a quote?

"Shut your noise you fucking old c***".

Thanks.

 

[G-Dragon]

Interesting mate. Why wont you give me relegation or multiple unwanted records? These are things that also happened, as well as nutting opposition players (the 7 game ban he got for that is another unwanted record fyi) and physically attacking assistant referees etc.

Why do you think I'm bitter?

Because you miss Pardew, simples.

 

[AtaturkOzgutson]

I'm not saying Pardew is a great bloke (some of the incidents he's been in are a little 'unsavoury') but I really don't understand why the bloke gets such a raw deal in perception.

You can attribute a relegation to him if you so desire, but as he took Charlton over whilst in meltdown and already well in the bottom 3, it doesn't prove a huge amount.

He's a decent manager, and just picking at negatives is silly unless you're going to provide the positives for balance - Those great run of form, the big wins, or generally achieving the club aims he's been set - or it's all just daft. You can't escape the fact his sides are prone to losing form, but there usually seems a way back.

We know Newcastle fans didn't like him, but it's fine to just say that, rather than pretending a relegation with a doomed side a decade ago is as relevent as the good job he's doing at Palace, or the overacheivements at Newcastle before he got the 'yes-man' tag. Newcastle haven't got close to where they were when he left since, despite overhauling how the club is run, and heavy backing, in the mean time!

Aside from that, on the basis that Leicester are the best team in the country....Pardew is the best English manager

 

[mistermagic]

Interesting mate. Why wont you give me relegation or multiple unwanted records? These are things that also happened, as well as nutting opposition players (the 7 game ban he got for that is another unwanted record fyi) and physically attacking assistant referees etc.

Why do you think I'm bitter?

Simple. You don't like Pardew.

 

[GodsGift]

Pardew's an alright manager, he's just no where as good as some would have you believe (including himself). He'll go on a decent 10-game run, and then the next month he'll go on a disastrous 10-game winless run.

He just wasn't liked at Newcastle. Just because the fans wanted him gone doesn't mean we wanted Carver or McClaren though...

 

[G.B]

This week on the Alan Pardew show, he offers his entire squad outside as they go 10 LEAGUE GAMES WITHOUT A WIN. Absolutely demolished by a negative, defensive, and quite frankly poor, Tony Pulis side. Best give him a new contract then

Simple. You don't like Pardew.

I don't like sweet mince pies either, in fact I think they're disgusting. Does that mean I'm bitter about mince pies?

I'm not saying Pardew is a great bloke (some of the incidents he's been in are a little 'unsavoury') but I really don't understand why the bloke gets such a raw deal in perception.

It's cos he's a massive cock and a bad manager mate. Happy to help with the confusion.

Also, you generally do attribute relegation to someone who was managing a team that got relegated. That's like, how it goes and that. I mean, you can attribute success and multiple competition wins to Alex Ferguson but why would you?

I've listed some of the negatives. The violence, the heaps of embarrassing records at multiple clubs, the relegation, and currently his awful, awful run with Palace, where you think he's doing a great job apparently, depsite NOT WINNING IN 10 GAMES . Perhaps you can be the one to provide the numerous positives, as nobody has managed it yet. I'll start you off mate. One top 5 finish and... erm... losing a cup final once upon a time?

 

[Anon]

A top 5 finish and an almost win of the FA Cup is much, much more than most "bad", average and good managers out there of midtable Prem teams. I suppose you prefer the flirts with relegation.

Very much looking forward to the weekly updates everytime he doesn't win a game though. The anticipation is too much.

 

[G.B]

He said, implying Pardew didn't have Newcastle flirting with relegation on the regular

Did you know you can simply not click on the thread to read the latest posts mate? The trick is to avoid moving your mouse cursor over the thread title and clicking on it mate.

Sunderland away up next, a real chance to end this disastrous run of 2 points from 30, with a score of 19-6 against. A slight improvement on his losing run of 6 on the bounce with a score of 17-1 at least. So the statistics do indicate he is getting better as a manager, I'll give you that much. The main positive atm is Palace historically being so tinpot that it's almost impossible he'll be allowed to break any records for being shit at managing a football club while he's there.

As a great man once declared, before he fell on his face and ruined the dreams of millions of people, from as far a field as Asia, Sweden and even Maryland USofA (go Terrapins!), but definitely not Merseyside, "We go again". Good luck to you, Alan.

 

[Anon]

He said, implying Pardew didn't have Newcastle flirting with relegation on the regular

They didn't. From what I recall, there was one season where late on there might have been a chance of joining in the relegation battle, but it didn't turn out that way. Hardly indicative of regular full on last day battles, and besides most average midtable teams have spells in the midst of 4/5 years where they will have a bad season, but almost all of them don't have a serious challenge for CL in the modern Prem era. All while working for Ashley, transfers handled by Kinnear, and a fan base largely hating him.

You rewrite history all you want and pretend he's got a track record of being a "bad" manager, but you're not kidding anyone.

Did you know you can simply not click on the thread to read the latest posts mate? The trick is to avoid moving your mouse cursor over the thread title and clicking on it mate.

Quality retort. Thriker.

 

[G.B]

Your recollection is quite incorrect. He was here for 4 years and 22 days. 2 seasons we came close to relegation, 2012/13 in particular was rather close with us finishing on 41 points. That's fairly regular in my humble opinion. I'm not entirely sure how laying out the facts and figures equates to rewriting history in your mind. Maybe your fondness for Alan leads to you ignoring them. Perhaps you could pinpoint where you've imagined I've done that rather than offering your vague recollections. Also, Kinnear wasn't working here that season.

I dunno mate, your cutting sarcasm seemed to indicate you don't enjoy the content of the thread. I'm not a massive fan of midget porn, so I tend to avoid clicking on links to midget porn.

 

[Anon]

Your recollection is quite incorrect. He was here for 4 years and 22 days. 2 seasons we came close to relegation, 2012/13 in particular was rather close with us finishing on 41 points. That's fairly regular in my humble opinion. I'm not entirely sure how laying out the facts and figures equates to rewriting history in your mind. Maybe your fondness for Alan leads to you ignoring them. Perhaps you could pinpoint where you've imagined I've done that rather than offering your vague recollections. Also, Kinnear wasn't working here that season.

Pinpoint? Sure, as it seems a non-Newcastle fan seems to know your seasons under Pardew better than you do. My "vague recollections" seemingly ring true: 12th, 5th, 16th (but 5pts clear), 10th, can't recall the position when he left. You're an average team with an overall average league position during Pardew's reign - that record isn't indicative of a "bad" manager or "flirtation with relegation on the regular".

Especially given Kinnear (I didn't say he was there for all his spell), Ashley, under-investment only addressed after he left (and hilariously gotten you nowhere), and fans like yourself who fulfil the Magpie stereotype with aplomb... you were actually pretty decent during his spell. And yet you got to enjoy a (quickly forgotten) real CL push in the mix that barely any other average Prem team or fan have been able to enjoy in the modern era.

I dunno mate, your cutting sarcasm seemed to indicate you don't enjoy the content of the thread. I'm not a massive fan of midget porn, so I tend to avoid clicking on links to midget porn.

I can assure you the recent thread content has provided suitable smirks in all the right places. And I'm not talking about midget porn.

 

[AtaturkOzgutson]

Also, you generally do attribute relegation to someone who was managing a team that got relegated. That's like, how it goes and that. I mean, you can attribute success and multiple competition wins to Alex Ferguson but why would you?

You said "the rest of his career is comprised relegation..." implying it was more than half a season at a club in decline. In the same way that I'd blame Remi Garde for Villa going down, but I'd reserve at least 50% of blame for the owners, players and Tim sodding Sherwood.

That he kept Newcastle up several times (whilst people before took em down, and it looks like they may well again) hasn't even entered the equation here.

I'll give you that he's a bit of a weapon, does weapon like things, and is prone to runs of poor form where it seems like there's just a plan A, however, his card was marked long before then at Newcastle - be that due to expectations, ownership or the peculiar definition in the North of what a "cockney" is.