As I have said, we (Europe) stop investment in our mosques by extremists and Saudi Arabia. Extremists like Anjem Choudrary should be stopped from preaching. There needs to be increased funding to religious education programmes, so that religious literacy is increased, and people understand the flaws of religion, and are therefore less likely to be indoctrinated by extremism.
By law all kids have to have some religious element to school. Usually 'group worship' in assembly.
When religion is so ingrained in education, you'll struggle to force kids to think rationally about it.
By law all kids have to have some religious element to school. Usually 'group worship' in assembly.
When religion is so ingrained in education, you'll struggle to force kids to think rationally about it.
Also, I can all but guarantee the attackers will be Belgian/French.
No. There isn't a logical argument for it. There's a long thread on this which boiled down to 'ah, well... You can never be sure can you?'
Keep religion out of school. Learn about religions in history. If parents want to go further than that, they can do it at home.
Teach kids critical thinking and science and they can make their minds up.
No. There isn't a logical argument for it. There's a long thread on this which boiled down to 'ah, well... You can never be sure can you?'
Keep religion out of school. Learn about religions in history. If parents want to go further than that, they can do it at home.
Teach kids critical thinking and science and they can make their minds up.
No. There isn't a logical argument for it. There's a long thread on this which boiled down to 'ah, well... You can never be sure can you?'
Keep religion out of school. Learn about religions in history. If parents want to go further than that, they can do it at home.
Teach kids critical thinking and science and they can make their minds up.
I don't think people realise the counterpoint to this, which is that western media, western governments and perhaps predominantly, western people are fearful of another attack. It isn't discrimination borne out of nothing (not that it makes it right). This attack today will only serve to make more people despise them, which I'll admit quite freely is unfair on those who are peaceful, friendly, and contribute to society.
Most Christian schools might be predominantly Christian but are mixed ethnicities. Muslim/Jewish schools tend to be far more ethnically insular.
Ethnicity isn't really the point here, though.
Absolutely MorDon, I think its a perfectly understandable reaction people have, fear is a powerful emotion, I completely appreciate why people become more suspicious of people even if, deep down, they realise it's wrong to do so. Yet of course equally, people seem to be unable to understand that if you keep kicking a dog and then act in indignant rage when it finally bites you as if you did nothing to contribute, its equally clouded.
I think my biggest issue is the absolute lack of nuance involved in debates around Islam and modern terrorism.
We consistently treat Muslims as one homogenous hive-mind in a way that we would never, ever, do when discussing ourselves. We are capable of appreciating the nuances between Western countries, for example we could easily discuss "homophobia and racism in the USA", we'd never term it as "the West", or "white people", we would never make such sweeping broad generalisations and assumptions. Yet, when it comes to Islam, we simply do not apply the same logic, it's always "Islam is a problem", "Muslims cannot integrate", it completely ignores the very real nuances involved. If "Muslims" cannot become more liberal and open to Western ideals, how on earth to modern cosmopolitan spaces like Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Muscat emerge? They certainly do not strictly adhere to every passage in the Quran and whilst they have their own social problems, they are demonstrable of Islam's capacity to begin to coexist with Western liberal ideals rather than being this large durable force of total resistance. Equally, Muslims live in so many different countries, countries with different cultural heritages, countries with different valyes, countries with different economic circumstances, all things which directly impact how they view the world and engage with the international sphere, yet we are still discussing them under this mass umbrella of "Islam".
Until we begin to break down this problem and stop debating it as a "Islamic" problem, we'll keep pouring fuel onto a fire which leads to more people feeling hated and victimised in our countries, leading to more easily moulded home grown terrorists of the future. I understand why the general pubic reacts as it does, but its about time those in charge stopped feeding into it.
But it is important that different ethnicities mix with each other especially when they might otherwise not.
I think this is partially true, and something I am probably guilty of myself. But I disagree with your point about Islam's capacity to coexist with Western liberal ideals. Democracy is non-existent in Saudi Arabia, or the Gulf States. Turkey, once a shining example of secular democracy is increasingly going further and further towards an Islamic government. I fundamentally disagree that Islam and liberal democracy, where freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom of expression (LGBT rights etc) is respected can coexist.
Please notice and notate that often those who claim radical Islamism and violent Islamic terrorism is mainly a product of "western intervention" or "western wars", do not have a compelling answer to explain why Islamism slaughters and persecutes thousands in Indonesia, Nigeria, Turkey, and Nigeria
As I have said, we (Europe) stop investment in our mosques by extremists and Saudi Arabia. Extremists like Anjem Choudrary should be stopped from preaching. There needs to be increased funding to religious education programmes, so that religious literacy is increased, and people understand the flaws of religion, and are therefore less likely to be indoctrinated by extremism.
I can't see these kind of attacks ending anytime soon.
How do you stop this idea?
nigeria turkey indonesia and nigeria? who are the thousands slaughtered by islamists in turkey? and also it says nigeria twice. so just nigeria and indonesia then
nigeria turkey indonesia and nigeria? who are the thousands slaughtered by islamists in turkey? and also it says nigeria twice. so just nigeria and indonesia then
Even when I was in school RE might as well not have existed, we certainly never had 'group worship' or owt like that. Religious schools of all persuasions are more of an issue for me, they promote segregation and aren't right in a secular, inclusive society.
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