Match Day Bank holiday Monday fixtures

[B2TF]

Torquay are DOOMED.

For the last time, will you change your signature!

 

[B2TF]

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Some people are born cünts.

You called?

 

[B2TF]

Nothing wrong with it DSL. I remember you welcomed me to the forum and I still get a warm, fuzzy feeling every time I post on here. It almost compensates for my team being utter shite.

He didn't welcome me. C**t.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

He didn't welcome me. C**t.

He couldn't type at the time, his palms were stuck to his face

 

[PoolieTom]

I thought we were just about ok 1st half but completely lost the plot second half with continuous lumping forward. Utter shite!

Worst game of 'football' I've ever watched that. Utterly depressing.

It took Scott Harrison all of 4 minutes to gift you a glorious chance, which you somehow managed to hit the crossbar with. Thankfully he went off injured and it looks like we've signed another defender to replace him.

The one big worry from the game is that Craig Harrison might pick the same team on Saturday. I didn't realise Woods was playing till the 87th minute. We played 4-5-1 again, ffs. Devante Rodney is up there with Scott Harrison in the 'worst players to ever play for Hartlepool' category. Our most creative midfielder was playing left back and our only other creative player was on the bench for 90 minutes.

Our paper has given some of our players 6/10 and 7/10. Fuck knows what they were watching. Other than our keeper for the double save, I wouldn't have any player on the pitch over a 4.

 

[Chief Rocka]

Worst game of 'football' I've ever watched that. Utterly depressing.

It took Scott Harrison all of 4 minutes to gift you a glorious chance, which you somehow managed to hit the crossbar with. Thankfully he went off injured and it looks like we've signed another defender to replace him.

The one big worry from the game is that Craig Harrison might pick the same team on Saturday. I didn't realise Woods was playing till the 87th minute. We played 4-5-1 again, ffs. Devante Rodney is up there with Scott Harrison in the 'worst players to ever play for Hartlepool' category. Our most creative midfielder was playing left back and our only other creative player was on the bench for 90 minutes.

Our paper has given some of our players 6/10 and 7/10. Fuck knows what they were watching. Other than our keeper for the double save, I wouldn't have any player on the pitch over a 4.

I think your being mega harsh on Rodney here like, the lad is 19 year old FFS and missed the entire pre season, he is still learning the game and is incredibly raw, his first touch is not there yet and decision making might not be his strong suit but I think he has something about him that we should persist with, he's physical with a decent turn of pace, lets build these young players up instead of tearing them down, I'd point the finger at several other experienced first teamers going through the motions before I would a young lad trying to make a name for himself in the game

 

[PoolieTom]

Fair point, I may have been a little harsh. Especially as no one can be as bad as Scott Harrison. Rodney just looks uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, like he doesn't know what to do with it. Maybe he just isn't a winger. Would still be happy to see him given a go upfront. He uses his body well to get the ball down, but then takes too long to decide what to do with it and generally loses the ball.

As much as I want to give Craig Harrison time, he really needs to start playing players in their correct positions

 

[rocknrollnobody]

Rodney just looks uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, like he doesn't know what to do with it.

Bit of a problem when you're a pro footballer really.

 

[Chief Rocka]

Fair point, I may have been a little harsh. Especially as no one can be as bad as Scott Harrison. Rodney just looks uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, like he doesn't know what to do with it. Maybe he just isn't a winger. Would still be happy to see him given a go upfront. He uses his body well to get the ball down, but then takes too long to decide what to do with it and generally loses the ball.

As much as I want to give Craig Harrison time, he really needs to start playing players in their correct positions

I mean look at Rodney's build, there's no way he should be playing anywhere other than upfront, the team on Monday was a hodge podge because we were lacking bodies with Donnelly away and Adams injured we pretty much had to play Deverdics LB, we looked semi capable playing 442, this unholy 433 crap needs to stop, it doesn't work for us, it's the same bollocks formation we watched all last year, Cassidy was winning headers to no one because the other two were miles away from him.

Harrison still doesn't know his strongest team which is pretty pathetic at this point, five changes from Fylde to Guiseley, which to be fair was needed and this Saturday It'll be more changes as players return, he just needs to stick to 442, defence picks itself when fit, Franks on one wing, Donaldson on the other, pick two centre mid's from the 100 we have, Cassisy and one other up front.

Should be a big crowd Saturday at a fiver a head, needs to win it.

 

[LeWhites]

Having watched the highlights, Ebbsfleet's goal was a blatant foul on Ilesanmi and should never have stood.

I think David Rock thinks we pay £17 each to watch the David Rock show.

Not complaining about the result too much as apparently our goal came from a throw in which wasn't ours, and both sides had stonewall pens turned down. Something has to be done about the standard of refereeing. They seem even worse than last season, although we probably forget how awful they are over the 3 months of summer.

 

[Luke Imp]

Fair point, I may have been a little harsh. Especially as no one can be as bad as Scott Harrison. Rodney just looks uncomfortable with the ball at his feet, like he doesn't know what to do with it. Maybe he just isn't a winger. Would still be happy to see him given a go upfront. He uses his body well to get the ball down, but then takes too long to decide what to do with it and generally loses the ball.

As much as I want to give Craig Harrison time, he really needs to start playing players in their correct positions

You'll come across plenty of them!

 

[PoolieTom]

I mean look at Rodney's build, there's no way he should be playing anywhere other than upfront, the team on Monday was a hodge podge because we were lacking bodies with Donnelly away and Adams injured we pretty much had to play Deverdics LB, we looked semi capable playing 442, this unholy 433 crap needs to stop, it doesn't work for us, it's the same bollocks formation we watched all last year, Cassidy was winning headers to no one because the other two were miles away from him.

Harrison still doesn't know his strongest team which is pretty pathetic at this point, five changes from Fylde to Guiseley, which to be fair was needed and this Saturday It'll be more changes as players return, he just needs to stick to 442, defence picks itself when fit, Franks on one wing, Donaldson on the other, pick two centre mid's from the 100 we have, Cassisy and one other up front.

Should be a big crowd Saturday at a fiver a head, needs to win it.

Even with all of the injuries, it was a baffling team to pick. Magnay could've played LB, Richardson RB. I wouldn't mind the 4-3-3 formation if we didn't revert to 4-5-1 constantly. Cassidy winning the ball and he should have both Franks and Rodney ahead of him or inevitably the hoofball tactic ends up not working.

Personally I'd rather see Deverdics and Munns in midfield, overlapping fullbacks and crosses into the box. All of the pre season friendlies looked like we were going to play this way, but we seem to have reverted to kicking the ball upfield as quickly as we can.

I actually think Harrison may pick the same team for Saturday. 'never change a winning team' and all that. But that would be disastrous.

For me, I would go something like

.................Loach

Magnay Watson Ledger Adams

...........Featherstone
.......Munns Dev Franks

............Cassidy Oates

Replace Ledger/Oates with Richardson/Rodney if not available. Tight midfield with four players who like the ball at their feet. Get Adams and Magnay bombing forward. Tell Featherstone to not cross the half way line and sit in as an extra defender when the full backs get forward. The midfield four will be able to pass the ball around and get it out wide for a cross to Cassidy/Oates.


PS, your dog is huge Steve!

 

[Soup Ladle]

I like the look of that side PoolieTom. One thing that's starting to baffle me is how do we get the best out of Munns? He's looked a bit lost out wide but better behind a front man or two. Think that's how Cheltenham played him and he took the piss out of this league all that season. Donaldson is another, he's not really an out and out winger but played centre mid for Plymouth.

As for Rodney, there's certainly a player in there somewhere. I'd persevere with him for a while, but maybe not as a regular starter yet.

There's also the potential for a diamond with Featherstone as DM and Munns behind a front two. He can then drop into a more conventional centre mid role when we don't have the ball and burst forward with his pace when (sorry if) we ever win the ball back. We don't really have natural wingers so having Donaldson/Deverdics and Franks on the wings can become narrower to compensate for the gap in the middle a diamond leaves when we're looking to stay solid.

I think I can understand why Harrison is still unsure, I'm not sure what our best set up is either. We have played a bit better 442 but that doesn't really suit Munns or Deverdics, our two most creative players. I wouldn't have either in a two man centre mid partnership.

 

[Shotsfan1993]

Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but Sam Elliott has just tweeted that Adam Lockwood has left Guiseley. Seems a little harsh to me (although they did look like a National North side at the Rec a couple of weeks ago)

 

[GuiseleySteve]

Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but Sam Elliott has just tweeted that Adam Lockwood has left Guiseley. Seems a little harsh to me (although they did look like a National North side at the Rec a couple of weeks ago)

http://guiseleyafc.co.uk/club-news/club-statement-adam-lockwood/

 

[Lucky Bobble]

He didn't welcome me. C**t.

Wonder why.....

 

[PoolieTom]

I like the look of that side PoolieTom. One thing that's starting to baffle me is how do we get the best out of Munns? He's looked a bit lost out wide but better behind a front man or two. Think that's how Cheltenham played him and he took the piss out of this league all that season. Donaldson is another, he's not really an out and out winger but played centre mid for Plymouth.

As for Rodney, there's certainly a player in there somewhere. I'd persevere with him for a while, but maybe not as a regular starter yet.

There's also the potential for a diamond with Featherstone as DM and Munns behind a front two. He can then drop into a more conventional centre mid role when we don't have the ball and burst forward with his pace when (sorry if) we ever win the ball back. We don't really have natural wingers so having Donaldson/Deverdics and Franks on the wings can become narrower to compensate for the gap in the middle a diamond leaves when we're looking to stay solid.

I think I can understand why Harrison is still unsure, I'm not sure what our best set up is either. We have played a bit better 442 but that doesn't really suit Munns or Deverdics, our two most creative players. I wouldn't have either in a two man centre mid partnership.

Yeah got to agree with the midfield headaches, we have lots of similar types of player, and only Franks you could class as a winger. I think for me, when we are at home, teams are generally going to set up more defensive minded against us, which means we can afford to play a more attacking line up.

Munns/Dev/Franks can all play the attacking midfield role, and to an extent can probably all play the wider positions of an attacking midfield 3, so I would give them license to roam about a bit. Attacking 3, or a diamond midfield.

Away from home, more so against the top sides, you can replace Oates/Cassidy with another defensive midfielder, and let Munns play as more of an attacker. We have plenty of replacements for each position, so a run of Sat/Tue/Sat games and you can chop and change like for like players as and when required.

Donaldson I am struggling to find him a position in the team to be honest, other than first choice replacement for any of the midfield 4 should they get injured.

 

[Shotsfan1993]

http://guiseleyafc.co.uk/club-news/club-statement-adam-lockwood/

What are your thoughts on him leaving? Good decision?

 

[GuiseleySteve]

What are your thoughts on him leaving? Good decision?

I would have given them ten games given we have an all new strike force a winger and cm to bed in. They worked a miracle last season to keep us up. We are five points better off now than we were at this time last season.
To balance that they have been given a larger budget and squad this time along with better training and monitoring equipment. Expectations are clearly higher, I would suggest our board are expecting midtable as a minimum.

 

[E10rifle]

Expectations are clearly higher, I would suggest our board are expecting midtable as a minimum.

Are they usually that deluded? Even with an increased budget, surely it has to still be one of the bottom 7 or 8 in the league?

 

[B2TF]

I would have given them ten games given we have an all new strike force a winger and cm to bed in. They worked a miracle last season to keep us up. We are five points better off now than we were at this time last season.
To balance that they have been given a larger budget and squad this time along with better training and monitoring equipment. Expectations are clearly higher, I would suggest our board are expecting midtable as a minimum.

I think hanging on by their fingertips on the last day of the season each year they've been here has distorted their sense of reality. Checking out your forum it seems that applies to some of your fans too. You're a Conference North club at best and sooner rather than later you'll go back there, never to return.

 

[Pablosammy]

Bit harsh.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

Bit harsh.

Considering they've only spent one season longer in the NL than us!