Birkenhead vs Burslem

[valefan16]

Having just seen the double penalty claim how on Earth have we not got at least one of them! The push is far worse than the one we got penalised for Tuesday!

 

[Dave-Vale]

Winning at home is starting to look like papering over the cracks and frankly, we didn’t look at all convincing against Crawley. What happens when teams realise that if you out play us for the first half hour (which you will because we NEVER start well) and go ahead at any point then you’ve got 3 easy points because we have no fight. Aspin doesn’t look like he can motivate the players.

To go away from home against a team (with respect) that have just been promoted from non-league and set up with essentially 7 defensive players is absurd. I could understand it more if we were playing against a top half League One side in the cup or something but to set up like that, after it didn’t work Tuesday, has really pissed me and a load of other Vale fans right off.

 

[darren gregory]

So awful you parked the pus and time wasted all game and we still had endless chances, nice one.

Endless chances ?
After it was 1-0 I agree, before that you were very poor . Aspin woke from his comatose slumber and it dawned on him we were losing the game. That's why you had chance after chance and only dreadful finishing prevented a bigger defeat. Up to the goal both sides were shocking.
Penalty as Stonewall as you could see but let's not hide behind that, we deserved nothing and serious questions are being asked about our negative set up.
I have been to both away games this week and neither home side are a Lincoln.
Pure negativity cost us points in both games.
Finally thanks to Merseyside Constabulary for making us miss our trains with their disgraceful kettling tactics.

 

[Back in the DHSS]

Endless chances ?
After it was 1-0 I agree, before that you were very poor . Aspin woke from his comatose slumber and it dawned on him we were losing the game. That's why you had chance after chance and only dreadful finishing prevented a bigger defeat. Up to the goal both sides were shocking.
Penalty as Stonewall as you could see but let's not hide behind that, we deserved nothing and serious questions are being asked about our negative set up.
I have been to both away games this week and neither home side are a Lincoln.
Pure negativity cost us points in both games.
Finally thanks to Merseyside Constabulary for making us miss our trains with their disgraceful kettling tactics.

Not so sure about Vales stonewall penalty shout myself, from where I was sat there was clear daylight between the hand and the ball. Although I can understand why the Vale fans thought it was a penalty.
As for Missing your trains, I’d blame the small unsavoury element amongst your away support rather than the local constabulary!

 

[darren gregory]

Not so sure about Vales stonewall penalty shout myself, from where I was sat there was clear daylight between the hand and the ball. Although I can understand why the Vale fans thought it was a penalty.
As for Missing your trains, I’d blame the small unsavoury element amongst your away support rather than the local constabulary!

I meant the foul not the handball. But as I said we deserved nothing.
Well you weren't there to comment, they treated everyone with the same contempt whether man, woman or child. Completely over the top policing , totally wrong when you can't walk to your destination and end up missing trains.
Wouldn't of minded if there was a baying mob of Tranmere lying in wait, all I wanted do was go to the pub for a pint before the train home and catch a bit of the bin dippers game on telly.
Instead was treated like a criminal by over zealous old bill who 50% of were worse than the idiot Vale fans.
Hopefully Burslem plod will reciprocate in the return fixture

 

[kieran_vale]

That one on Quigley was a definite foul having seen the replay however did he really need to throw in the triple roll after it? Made it look like he was just looking for it more than it actually was. Either way Vale can’t hide behind that as an excuse.

 

[Tranmerewhite]

That one on Quigley was a definite foul having seen the replay however did he really need to throw in the triple roll after it? Made it look like he was just looking for it more than it actually was. Either way Vale can’t hide behind that as an excuse.

There was a foul of McCullough just before it, Aspin is just misdirecting the blame onto the officials, something Gary Brabin did endlessly while he was with us and something many including myself bought into for too long.

As for us.. I still can't agree with us being awful. I'm not saying we're going to run away with the league, but there's really been nothing so far this season which has suggested we can't be in and around the edge of the playoffs like I thought we would be at the start of the season. An injury to Norwood dramatically changes that however.

 

[Dean]

It was a penalty all day, can’t see how anyone can dispute it. The tackle on Quigley I’m talking about by the way, not the handball.

 

[valefan16]

To be fair Aspin today has said we didn’t create anywhere near enough but we are not getting the decisions, we deserved the chance to equalise as we’d drawn that foul as bad as we were and had been penalised for a penalty at Carlisle which turned that game which was far softer than the foul after it (although the handball is pretty stone wall as it’s not in a natural position).

Didn’t see the game so can’t comment other than what people have said who went in regards to Tranmere being the worst opponent so far, that said Crawley were excellent but couldn’t score and Colchester and Lincoln are top sides at this level. I’d be more worried about our away form though than who is better of the six league two sides we’ve so far faced as it won’t say much for us if Tranmere were the worst that we got beat to be honest.

It’s an open league low on quality at this level so is anyone’s for the taking if you can get consistency.

 

[Boz]

If Rovers were bad, what does that make Vale on yesterday’s showing?? Prior to the goal, we had a few decent chances, the Banks one in the first half being closest to a goal. There were spells, particularly towards the end of the first half where the visitors were in the ascendancy without ever troubling Scott Davies. The substitutions did have a positive impact for us. Haven’t seen the highlights yet to re-assess the merits of the penalty shouts.

I can see some logic to directing Vale fans to Birkenhead Central as most Rovers fans use Rock Ferry. Usually away fans are allowed to use Rock Ferry too. There were no significant difficulties at last season’s Chester and Wrecsam games, both of whom bring more fans than Vale to the game, so a bit puzzled at the change in police approach. Either this is the new system for travelling fans or police expecting an incident. Merseyside police don’t usually get accused of being heavy handed over policing, though accept that’s little consolation to innocent travelling fans if they were.

 

[Dave-Vale]

If Rovers were bad, what does that make Vale on yesterday’s showing?? Prior to the goal, we had a few decent chances, the Banks one in the first half being closest to a goal. There were spells, particularly towards the end of the first half where the visitors were in the ascendancy without ever troubling Scott Davies. The substitutions did have a positive impact for us. Haven’t seen the highlights yet to re-assess the merits of the penalty shouts.

I can see some logic to directing Vale fans to Birkenhead Central as most Rovers fans use Rock Ferry. Usually away fans are allowed to use Rock Ferry too. There were no significant difficulties at last season’s Chester and Wrecsam games, both of whom bring more fans than Vale to the game, so a bit puzzled at the change in police approach. Either this is the new system for travelling fans or police expecting an incident. Merseyside police don’t usually get accused of being heavy handed over policing, though accept that’s little consolation to innocent travelling fans if they were.

I don’t think any Vale fans have been particularly praising our performance or saying we deserved to win.

 

[RLC]

Yesterday was probably the poorest of our home performances so far, partly due to the negative approach of the opposition, but we still comfortably deserved to win. I think a lot of opposing supporters read 'newly promoted NL team' and then assume prior to the game we are going to be crap, and are then outraged when we take points off them.

From what I have seen so far, we are a lower top-half team. That is not a prediction of where we will finish, as injuries to key players will have a major bearing on our season, but I think we looked as good as Swindon, and better than Stevenage, Cheltenham and Vale in the matches to date. Only Mansfield were better than us, but we still gave them a game and got a point.

 

[getoutofit]

Yesterday was probably the poorest of our home performances so far, partly due to the negative approach of the opposition, but we still comfortably deserved to win. I think a lot of opposing supporters read 'newly promoted NL team' and then assume prior to the game we are going to be crap, and are then outraged when we take points off them.

From what I have seen so far, we are a lower top-half team. That is not a prediction of where we will finish, as injuries to key players will have a major bearing on our season, but I think we looked as good as Swindon, and better than Stevenage, Cheltenham and Vale in the matches to date. Only Mansfield were better than us, but we still gave them a game and got a point.

I'd say better than Swindon as well. We were on course to pummel them until harris did his bruce lee impression. For the 20 minutes it was 11 v 11 they were all over the show, and i very much doubt we would have lost had it stayed that way.

 

[RLC]

I'd say better than Swindon as well. We were on course to pummel them until harris did his bruce lee impression. For the 20 minutes it was 11 v 11 they were all over the show, and i very much doubt we would have lost had it stayed that way.

Yes, I agree, although they did play some decent football when we were a man short, with Doughty impressive.

 

[valefan16]

We can only judge on one performance as your in the same aspect judging your opponents on the one performance.

If you’d been at the Vale v Cambridge game you’d probably say we are one of the best sides.

We are generally half decent at home, dire away in 2018 as a whole. If we turn the away form around we will have a good season with the players we have but until we don’t we will be held back massively in our progression.

We’ve essentially had a season like Tranmere three years ago but luckily survived, whereas you’ve had a lower level to try and recover the situation and get the winning mentality back we’ve got to try and do it at the same level which after the two years we’ve had is going to take time. The worry is that Aspin is not playing to the strengths of the team he’s now built and is approaching away games at mid table league two sides as though we are off to the Bernabeau... luckily I’ve got two youngsters that stop me going away week in week out like I used to three or four years back but can understand the anger of those spending all that money to see that for the last 15 away days.

 

[Boz]

I don’t think any Vale fans have been particularly praising our performance or saying we deserved to win.

I didn’t claim any did. Rovers did enough to win and deserved the win on the day. Only seen us twice this season and think we’ve enough to stay up comfortably, perhaps better if we avoid injuries to key players. Of our opponents, Cheltenham didn’t have a cutting edge, but Vale could have set up much more positively with the players at your disposal. Miller needs to quit fooling around and trying to con officials, he might then prove a decent acquisition. Quigley looked half-decent at Wrecsam last season but doesn’t seem to have started well with you.

 

[GTFCfish]

Only just seen the highlights of this but how does McNulty get away with that not being a penalty? Blatant.