Championship chit chat/SERNWA has derailed a thread so I'll move into here thread

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

You were crying about Stewart's ambition "stretching as far as Wednesday's reserves" on here not long ago.

Before we started spending money.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

How've you worked that one out then? You just loaned Izzy Brown from the same club; they're not going to have one rule for one youngster who joins little Bristol City, but dismiss their policies completely when European Giants Rotherham United show an interest in one of their players.

The desperation of having Abraham mind, who, I can categorically say, will score more than any individual in your squad over the course of this season providing he stays fit.

Edit: Also, Brentford's CEO claimed they were put off by the loan fee.

I'm sat with one of my best mates who does all the paperwork for deals and can categorically say there isn't any suck clause in Izzy Browns contract.

Magpiebee said they pulled out due to the 75% rule, take it up with him.

Oh and Tammy Abraham has only scored 1 more than Danny Ward. Bad prediction.

 

[JJH]

I'm sat with one of my best mates who does all the paperwork for deals and can categorically say there isn't any suck clause in Izzy Browns contract.

Magpiebee said they pulled out due to the 75% rule, take it up with him.

One of our execs said that we didn't get Tammy Abraham because Chelsea wanted £1.5m as a loan fee, which would have made him our second most expensive ever signing.

I wouldn't pay that much for him, but he keeps scoring for Bristol City so could prove to be worth it.

Our CEO said last week that there's no recall clause or no clause as to how much he has to play.

We've paid a loan fee, they cannot recall him, or tell us what to do with him.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Our CEO said last week that there's no recall clause or no clause as to how much he has to play.

We've paid a loan fee, they cannot recall him, or tell us what to do with him.

Like I said, was magpiebee who claimed that.

 

[MagpieBee]

Like I said, was magpiebee who claimed that.

We pulled out due to the £1.5m clause, never paying that much for a striker we only get for 46 games max and can't sell on. Nothing to do with the 75% (though that's why we've pulled out of other loans)

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

Why not? There's no differences between us and Barnsley bar the John Stones money. I believe we're far more ambitious than Barnsley too. It's our third season back in this division and our owner wants to progress to eventually become a Premiership club. He might sound incredibly deluded and mental but the ambition is there, there's an aim along with expanding the stadium. Barnsley have never shown a similar level of ambition or desire to succeed now or in their last championship stint.

I think your a little deluded if you think there's no difference between you and Barnsley, they are traditionally a second,third tier team, you are traditionally a 3rd/4th tier team. They have a bigger stadium, their support is better, not often below 10k averages recently, your averages are not often above 10k even with the benefit of your best side in sometime and the new stadium factor, (and were until recently often below 5k). Most neutrals would see Barnsley as the bigger club, I have always thought of you as nearer to Doncaster's size than Barnsley's (no disrespect meant to Donny) but agree since Mr Stewart took over and with the NY stadium you have grown as a club, certainly appear to be leaving Doncaster behind and getting closer to Barnsley, but on par? Your entitled to your opinions (strange though some of them seem) but I think your either on the wind up or delusional, maybe both, whatever it is, it generally makes for interesting/amusing reading.

 

[Craig]

I don't know why he keeps bringing the 'Stones money' up either. We completed all our signings bar D'Almeida before Stones joined Man City. On top of that it's £7million, a fair sum for sure and I'm delighted with it but it aint gonna stretch too far in the current market is it? And that's assuming it will be reinvested in the first team squad which by all accounts it won't be as the decision has been made to inject the majority into the academy and training facilities thus strengthening the infrastructure of the club going forward.

 

[Bobbin']

I don't know why he keeps bringing the 'Stones money' up either. We completed all our signings bar D'Almeida before Stones joined Man City. On top of that it's £7million, a fair sum for sure and I'm delighted with it but it aint gonna stretch too far in the current market is it? And that's assuming it will be reinvested in the first team squad which by all accounts it won't be as the decision has been made to inject the majority into the academy and training facilities thus strengthening the infrastructure of the club going forward.

No ambition.

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

I'm sat with one of my best mates who does all the paperwork for deals and can categorically say there isn't any suck clause in Izzy Browns contract.

Magpiebee said they pulled out due to the 75% rule, take it up with him.

Oh and Tammy Abraham has only scored 1 more than Danny Ward. Bad prediction.

I would never sign a contract that didn't have a suck clause.

Never know who may end up doing it!!

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

I don't know why he keeps bringing the 'Stones money' up either. We completed all our signings bar D'Almeida before Stones joined Man City. On top of that it's £7million, a fair sum for sure and I'm delighted with it but it aint gonna stretch too far in the current market is it? And that's assuming it will be reinvested in the first team squad which by all accounts it won't be as the decision has been made to inject the majority into the academy and training facilities thus strengthening the infrastructure of the club going forward.

Bobbin has said it for me, no ambition whatsoever. If you had you'd be spending the £7m in attempt to push yourselfs further. Spending it all on the infastructure on the club won't stop you yo-yoing between this league and league one.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

I think your a little deluded if you think there's no difference between you and Barnsley, they are traditionally a second,third tier team, you are traditionally a 3rd/4th tier team. They have a bigger stadium, their support is better, not often below 10k averages recently, your averages are not often above 10k even with the benefit of your best side in sometime and the new stadium factor, (and were until recently often below 5k). Most neutrals would see Barnsley as the bigger club, I have always thought of you as nearer to Doncaster's size than Barnsley's (no disrespect meant to Donny) but agree since Mr Stewart took over and with the NY stadium you have grown as a club, certainly appear to be leaving Doncaster behind and getting closer to Barnsley, but on par? Your entitled to your opinions (strange though some of them seem) but I think your either on the wind up or delusional, maybe both, whatever it is, it generally makes for interesting/amusing reading.

We're talking about present day.

It's no shock that a Wednesday fan is talking about history but it doesn't relate to the original question you put to me? Players don't choose a club based on their history, they make a choice based on money and ambition of a club.

As for the fan argument, in the last two years there has been a difference of at most 600 fans between us on average home attendances.

At this point in time there is nothing between us and Barnsley and if you argue that point then you're simply arguing for the sake of it.

 

[Craig]

Bobbin has said it for me, no ambition whatsoever. If you had you'd be spending the £7m in attempt to push yourselfs further. Spending it all on the infastructure on the club won't stop you yo-yoing between this league and league one.

And spunking the £7m on mediocre players and their inflated wages would see us dig an unsavoury financial hole for ourselves. I was around the last time this club almost spent itself into the grave and it wasn't pleasant. I love the direction we're taking right now compared to that road. Our immediate ambition is to establish ourselves as a second tier club again.

Investing in our youth and training facilities is what led to the £7m windfall in the first instance (closer to £10m if you factor in the initial fee). Mason Holgate has started the first couple of games for Everton too this season and I'm fairly certain we'll have a sell on clause for him as well if he's a success. Then we have the likes of James Bree coming through who I'm sure will go on to be a success too, hopefully with us, but if not we'll take a tidy sum instead.

We're one of the smaller clubs in this division with one of the smallest fan bases. We don't want to spend beyond our means. The decision was made a few seasons ago to stop attempting to keep up with the bigger hitters in this league and the wage bill considerably downsized. It's taken some time, and a relegation, but we're finally getting it right. Raid lower league clubs for their better players and develop them here. Most of the time we'll sell them on or they may not be a success, but the long term goal is to sustain a competitive club at this level.

The buzz around Oakwell at the moment is beyond anything I've experienced as a Barnsley fan. There is a real optimism for the future of this club. I sure as hell aint gonna get worried about our 'lack of ambition' on the say so of a clueless WUM Rotherham fan and the fact it's unlikely we'll be challenging for the playoffs in the next few seasons.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I started posting in this section again. But you really are every inch the moron you've been made out to be. If you're serious then you're seriously stupid, if you're on the wind-up then you're seriously bad at it. It's a shame for the other level headed Rotherham fans that they can't escape being associated with you in however small a capacity as that may be.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

We're talking about present day.

It's no shock that a Wednesday fan is talking about history but it doesn't relate to the original question you put to me? Players don't choose a club based on their history, they make a choice based on money and ambition of a club.

As for the fan argument, in the last two years there has been a difference of at most 600 fans between us on average home attendances.

At this point in time there is nothing between us and Barnsley and if you argue that point then you're simply arguing for the sake of it.

Ok it must be right because you say so, but out of interest can you explain why top players still want to play for Man Utd ahead of moneybags and ambitious Man City. Is this not because of the history, support and perceived size of both clubs? No it cant be, I'm being daft because sernwa says otherwise.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Ok it must be right because you say so, but out of interest can you explain why top players still want to play for Man Utd ahead of moneybags and ambitious Man City. Is this not because of the history, support and perceived size of both clubs? No it cant be, I'm being daft because sernwa says otherwise.

Yeah cos Man United are paupers aren't they. Have you heard yourself?

 

[The Hand of Dom]

I've just deleted over 90 posts from this thread, which was an absolute disgrace.

For sure, have an 'off-topic' championship chat, but keep it to football, and not slagging off one person and insults towards each other. Grow up.

I'll speak with admins and people will have action taken accordingly.

Any more and the thread goes. Your choice.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

I've just deleted over 90 posts from this thread, which was an absolute disgrace.

For sure, have an 'off-topic' championship chat, but keep it to football, and not slagging off one person and insults towards each other. Grow up.

I'll speak with admins and people will have action taken accordingly.

Any more and the thread goes. Your choice.

Good. I wood have like you to keep the posts there for Saddlerrad to see.

When you speak with admins, do remember who instigated this thread ant the creator of it. Mr JJH

 

[The Hand of Dom]

Mods/Admins can still see the posts.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Good,

 

[JoeJoeJoeJoe]

 

[Craig]

This thread was/is a testament to the quality of the Championship moderating team, and I for one would be sad to see it go.

 

[StagsForLife]

Can we keep this thread to STRICTLY football chat otherwise it will be closed. Thanks.

 

[roversfan2001]

http://onefootballforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/general-championship-stuff-the-jimjams-thread.6293/
There's already a general Championship thread.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Can we keep this thread to STRICTLY football chat otherwise it will be closed. Thanks.

Your man JJH created the thread, which in essence has nothing to do with football.

 

[roversfan2001]

Your man JJH created the thread, which in essence has nothing to do with football.

Erm, no he didn't...

 

[Craig]

Erm, no he didn't...

He actually did though.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Yes he did, he moved stuff out of one thread into this.

 

[roversfan2001]

Yes he did, he moved stuff out of one thread into this.

Ah, all I saw was the first post was by Aaron-Bcfc.

 

[mossypne]

What a wild ride this has been.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Can we keep this thread to STRICTLY sernwa chat otherwise it will be closed. Thanks.

Corrected that for you.

 

[JJH]

Erm, no he didn't...

I did. Every other thread on here gets derailed by SERNWA, it's got to be dumped somewhere.