City vs Villa

[Ciderhead]

Freeman was shite today. I'm not blaming him solely for anything though, however, in the entire game Freeman produced 1 moment of note. A direct run (something he seems very reluctant to do) followed by a scuffed shot.
He was however terrific against Scunthorpe, and ok against Newcastle. Against the Toon he caused issues with the positions he got into, but never had any final product. I do notice though that Little was the defender slagged off after the Newcastle game, despite playing better than Matthews did.

I wouldn't say he had a good game today, but in the first half Freeman was the source of our only real attacking threat, a few times drifting inside and getting a shot off.

Keep feeling there's a Championship player there somewhere just struggling for confidence, but it's been a year now and it's still the same issues: taking too long on the ball in the final third and an inability to shoot. And with the options we now have in those positions with Paterson signing as well his chances are going to run out.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Freeman was shite today. I'm not blaming him solely for anything though, however, in the entire game Freeman produced 1 moment of note. A direct run (something he seems very reluctant to do) followed by a scuffed shot.
He was however terrific against Scunthorpe, and ok against Newcastle. Against the Toon he caused issues with the positions he got into, but never had any final product. I do notice though that Little was the defender slagged off after the Newcastle game, despite playing better than Matthews did.

I said Little played well after their goal and after he bottled that tackle.

You said it's worrying that we've conceded in every game. I said that I think our defence is fine and there's nothing to worry about apart from Mark Little, simply because isn't good enough for this level. At Burton he had an absolute shocker of a game, and I saw Norwich fans say he's the worst player they've ever seen. So that indicates how he played there. Against Newcastle Little did better than Matthews (who I also don't really rate) but was still quite poor.

Why you got all offended over that and called me out for scapegoating is beyond me. Am I not allowed to think a player isn't good enough, just as you feel with Freeman?

(For the record I also don't think Freeman is good enough, I'm just making a point)

 

[City169]

I said Little played well after their goal and after he bottled that tackle.

You said it's worrying that we've conceded in every game. I said that I think our defence is fine and there's nothing to worry about apart from Mark Little, simply because isn't good enough for this level. At Burton he had an absolute shocker of a game, and I saw Norwich fans say he's the worst player they've ever seen. So that indicates how he played there. Against Newcastle Little did better than Matthews (who I also don't really rate) but was still quite poor.

Why you got all offended over that and called me out for scapegoating is beyond me. Am I not allowed to think a player isn't good enough, just as you feel with Freeman?

(For the record I also don't think Freeman is good enough, I'm just making a point)

He didn't have a shocker at Burton, he wasn't great, but again he was offered absolutely no cover in that game and was facing a good winger. Again he wasn't great, but didn't have shocker by a long way.
Wasn't at Norwich so won't comment there.
I also don't think Freeman isn't good enough, just that his decision making isn't good enough. Apart from tat he has done ok in most games, other that completely neglecting his defensive duties.

The difference is you were trying to pin the entire blame for the goal on Little when it was a combination of several players not doing their job, I am just saying a player had a poor game- not shoving all the blame for everything on him.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

He didn't have a shocker at Burton, he wasn't great, but again he was offered absolutely no cover in that game and was facing a good winger. Again he wasn't great, but didn't have shocker by a long way.
Wasn't at Norwich so won't comment there.
I also don't think Freeman isn't good enough, just that his decision making isn't good enough. Apart from tat he has done ok in most games, other that completely neglecting his defensive duties.

The difference is you were trying to pin the entire blame for the goal on Little when it was a combination of several players not doing their job, I am just saying a player had a poor game- not shoving all the blame for everything on him.

O'Dowda saved his arse by tracking back on numerous occasions at Burton.

You highlighted in 1 of your 3 negatives of the match that Freeman was "poor yet again". Now you're saying he's "done ok in most games". Which one is it?

 

[City169]

O'Dowda saved his arse by tracking back on numerous occasions at Burton.

You highlighted in 1 of your 3 negatives of the match that Freeman was "poor yet again". Now you're saying he's "done ok in most games". Which one is it?

Poor yet again because he hasn't had a good game other than Scunthorpe.
He has had good spells and very poor spells. If someone has good points and bad points in a game then they've done ok.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Poor yet again because he hasn't had a good game other than Scunthorpe.
He has had good spells and very poor spells. If someone has good points and bad points in a game then they've done ok.

How can he be poor because he hasn't had a good game other than Scunny, when according to you he did ok in those other games? You are essentially saying that ok means the same as poor which is odd.

I feel like you're backtracking on your Freeman opinions to fuel your argument and make me look worse because of what I've said about Little, because you think similarly about Freeman.

For what it's worth, I was chuffed with Little's performance in the second half earlier. But just because he was good on the most part today doesn't change my opinion that he is the weak link, which was what you originally took offence to.

 

[City169]

How can he be poor because he hasn't had a good game other than Scunny, when according to you he did ok in those other games? You are essentially saying that ok means the same as poor which is odd.

I feel like you're backtracking on your Freeman opinions to fuel your argument and make me look worse because of what I've said about Little, because you think similarly about Freeman.

For what it's worth, I was chuffed with Little's performance in the second half earlier. But just because he was good on the most part today doesn't change my opinion that he is the weak link, which was what you originally took offence to.

Not backtracking, if someone's performances are only OK at best for a few games in a row then that is pretty poor, no?

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Not backtracking, if someone's performances are only OK at best for a few games in a row then that is pretty poor, no?

No, I would describe that as ok form. If someone was poor for a few games then I would describe it as poor form.

 

[JonBCFC]

Jesus Christ. I clearly watched a different game to city.

The ref was shocking, freeman wasn't awful.. Compared to last season it was a huge improvement.. And little was definitely at fault for the goal, I lost count at the amount of times he was out of position in the first half, particularly the first 20 mins. He was a different player in the second though, thought he was good. Same goes for Reid, different player second half.

Standout performers for me was Abraham, magners and O Neil.

 

[Blitzballer]

Fuck sakes!!!!!!!!!
Congrats Bristol City.
new players, new manager, new owner and still the same old gremlins

 

[JJH]

Great day, great night.

Just been reading through the thread (sort of), my opinion is (I've always backed Freeman) that he struggled to impact the game in the second half, but him and O'Dowda were cracking down the right in the second half. Little was at fault for the goal, and his awareness is appalling. The amount of times in the first half he got sucked into a challenge leaving a runner behind him in the first half was countless. Though, he was good second half.

 

[Ciderhead]

Had a little look on the Villa forum and my god are they an arrogant bunch. Not one single comment offering us any credit whatsoever, though there were quite a few at 1-0 saying anything but a win would be a shit result against these. Guy in the pre-match thread was getting slated for suggesting it wouldn't be a massive shock if they didn't win

Can understand them being a bit fucked off after the last few years, but there's the assumption they should be able to just turn up and wipe the floor with all these shitty little Championship clubs. You'd think after going down as one of the worst sides in Premier League history they'd appreciate it might take a little bit of time to get things sorted, but the reality is yet to sink in it seems.

Glad at least the ones we've got on here are a decent bunch.

 

[JonBCFC]

Can't quote, but those fans are going to have a shock if they expect to come to teams like us and walk over them. They haven't won away in a year (I think) so the fact that they were expecting to beat us a a bit odd.

If those comments were made at half time then it would be understandable because we really were terrible, villa should have been 3-0 at ht.. Thankfully we were clinicle and they weren't

 

[BCFC David]

Not going to get carried away with that last half hour because quite franky the first half we looked clueless ( Villa didn't look anything special tbf). It was back to last season......

That being said, fuck....where did that come from?! As soon as we scored it was one way traffic and could of scored more.

We need to start picking our best 11 and sticking with it because we looked all at sea on that first half. Johnson said he sees Bryan as a left back yet he was back on the wing and then ended upon midfield. Thought he had a poor game bar the goal.
God knows how anyone can defend Little. Lost his man for the goal and then lost out again and should of been 2 down. Much better second half though, confidence coming back hopefully. Someone mentioned the defence but that's the area I'm happiest about ( bar rb). We do look solid.

Decent start going into the international break. Should be an interesting few days.

 

[City169]

http://www.sofascore.com/bristol-city-aston-villa/Psib

These stats are collected by the football league and used to come up with the players ratings. Essentially its some of the data clubs get.

 

[BCFC David]

Mark give it a rest.

 

[City169]

Mark give it a rest.

I presume you're referring to my last post. Where I was simply putting a link to a stats thing I was looking at today. I only found it after the Scunthorpe game and wasn't using it to push any argument. I just find the stats interesting and thought others, whether our fans or Villa ones, might too.
I guess that's not fucking acceptable.

 

[Luke_ciderhead]

It was clear to see that the Villa fans didnt take defeat well. Abusing their players as they walked back down the tunnel.. and my god their fans were an edgy bunch outside the ground afterwards. They had better get used to it because on that performance they are going to have plenty more days like yesterday.

 

[BCFC David]

I presume you're referring to my last post. Where I was simply putting a link to a stats thing I was looking at today. I only found it after the Scunthorpe game and wasn't using it to push any argument. I just find the stats interesting and thought others, whether our fans or Villa ones, might too.
I guess that's not fucking acceptable.

I was having a laugh for fucks sake.

 

[JoshBCFC]

I was having a laugh for fucks sake.

To be fair to City169, it wasn't exactly obvious.

 

[City169]

Villa fans, I take it that the 'Gregory's goals' chap on Twitter is a WUM? Or just totally deluded

 

[hodge]

Either way its funny to read.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Had a little look on the Villa forum and my god are they an arrogant bunch. Not one single comment offering us any credit whatsoever, though there were quite a few at 1-0 saying anything but a win would be a shit result against these. Guy in the pre-match thread was getting slated for suggesting it wouldn't be a massive shock if they didn't win

Can understand them being a bit fucked off after the last few years, but there's the assumption they should be able to just turn up and wipe the floor with all these shitty little Championship clubs. You'd think after going down as one of the worst sides in Premier League history they'd appreciate it might take a little bit of time to get things sorted, but the reality is yet to sink in it seems.

Glad at least the ones we've got on here are a decent bunch.

There's a reason I don't go on the Villa forums... Unfortunately a lot of our fans on them are utter deluded idiots.

It was clear to see that the Villa fans didnt take defeat well. Abusing their players as they walked back down the tunnel.. and my god their fans were an edgy bunch outside the ground afterwards. They had better get used to it because on that performance they are going to have plenty more days like yesterday.

To be fair, a fair few did applaud the lads on their way off too, a select few idiots can't be attributed to all of us.

Villa fans, I take it that the 'Gregory's goals' chap on Twitter is a WUM? Or just totally deluded

Of course he's a wum ffs.