Club size in order

[Indian Dan]

We beat Roma 4-2 in Rome.

Snooker doesn’t count

 

[FGR-Star]

1. Bradford
2. Plymouth
3. Swindon
4. Oldham
5. Port Vale
6. Carlisle
7. Grimsby
8. Northampton
9. Walsall
10. Crewe
11. Leyton Orient
12. Scunthorpe
13. Mansfield
14. Colchester
15. Canbridge
16. Exeter
17. Newport
18. Cheltenham
19. Stevenage
20. Macclesfield
21. Crawley
22. FGR
23. Morecambe
24. Salford

I would put Crewe just above Newport in 16th biggest myself.

FGR are substantially bigger than Crawley and a bit bigger than Macclesfield, I would say we are slightly bigger than Stevenage too, we certainly have a better away support.

To put Crewe above clubs like Leyton Orient and Cambridge is just plain daft!!

 

[Son of Cod]

Saw this on Reddit a few weeks ago (aka I have found Shoddy's Reddit account)...

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bo127z

 

[Stringy]

We will still be 76th in another 130 years' time.

 

[Chris FGR]

Ha! We're above Thames AND Middlesbrough Ironsides AND Bootle AND Northwich Vics AND Salford. We're clearly massive.

Rotherham Town, we're coming for you.

 

[shoddycollins]

Ha! We're above Thames AND Middlesbrough Ironsides AND Bootle AND Northwich Vics AND Salford. We're clearly massive.

Rotherham Town, we're coming for you.

The only wheelchair football team to play league football. We need to be making more of a thing of this than we are.

 

[Son of Cod]

The only wheelchair football team to play league football. We need to be making more of a thing of this than we are.

Was that because their first ever game was against Mansfield?!

 

[Crewelad87]

I would put Crewe just above Newport in 16th biggest myself.

FGR are substantially bigger than Crawley and a bit bigger than Macclesfield, I would say we are slightly bigger than Stevenage too, we certainly have a better away support.

To put Crewe above clubs like Leyton Orient and Cambridge is just plain daft!!

What exactly makes Cambridge and Leyton Orient bigger. Fan bases are pretty similar, our stadium is bigger, our academy is better, our recent history is far better................

 

[Gladders]

So it's official, we are the biggest club in lge 2 next season.

By biggest we obviously mean the most successful in lge football as defined by the table above.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Saw this on Reddit a few weeks ago (aka I have found Shoddy's Reddit account)...

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bo127z

Haha Bradford Park Avenue are bigger than Wigan and Oxford #massive

 

[RLC]

Saw this on Reddit a few weeks ago (aka I have found Shoddy's Reddit account)...

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bo127z

The problem with that table is that it takes no account of cup successes, or when the points were won. So teams that accrued a lot of points in the late nineteenth century can be deemed 'bigger' than clubs that have been more successful in modern times.

The reality is that the definition of the 'size' of a club is subjective.

 

[E10rifle]

What exactly makes Cambridge and Leyton Orient bigger. Fan bases are pretty similar, our stadium is bigger, our academy is better, our recent history is far better................

Ah yes, the youth team. Always the first thing I refer to when thinking about club size. Still, looks like those five or so years your nonced-up kiddiwinks gave you in the 2nd division has given you an otherwise baffling illusion of superiority. I will, as always, look forward to you bringing your usual 200 fans to E10. Well, unless it’s a Tuesday.

 

[RLC]

What exactly makes Cambridge and Leyton Orient bigger. Fan bases are pretty similar, our stadium is bigger, our academy is better, our recent history is far better................

Orient have spent much more of their history in the second tier than Crewe, and probably have a better cup record, reaching the semi-final of the FA Cup as recently as the late seventies. I always view them as a bigger club than Crewe.

However, I would say that Crewe and Cambridge are similar.

 

[salfordian]

i think when looking at club size the last 20 or 30 years should take more importance than ancient stuff.

over the last 20 or 30 years teams like Orient and Carlisle really not done that much

so what Crewe have done is more relevant, not that i think they're bigger. Orient are better supported than Crewe. Crewe are a L2 club really that had a few purple patch seasons. Crewe's stock has only risen cos of their recent seasons in the Championship and youth academy.

I always think Bury are tiny in reality but I know they were once bigger.

 

[salfordian]

and no way are Forest Green bigger than Macclesfield or Stevenage!

 

[salfordian]

We know our place

Pretty sure if/when we ever get back in the league we will be the smallest (excluding those historically non-league sides).

Our attendances used to be on a par with the likes of Rochdale, Crewe and Harlepool but they all seem to get bigger crowds than we could realistically hope for these days even if we were in the league.

Out of them 3 I'd say you are smaller, like you say the others are better supported. hartlepool have good support considering how shit they are most seasons! think they had about 700 at ours on a Tues night.

But you are still a solid Div 4 club if you ask me

 

[Jerry]

Not having a dig at our rivals, but I would say Newport would definitely have been bigger than Torquay and probably still are. Their attendances have been on a par, but Newport have more third tier seasons since the fourth tier was created, even though they folded and were out of the League for thirty years. I would argue that Newport are also potentially better placed to be bigger in future, given they're more accessible to the rest of the country.

Yes you're probably right, as I said we would be the smallest team in the league if we ever return (other than the tinpotters ).

 

[White Army]

Orient are bigger than Crewe in my opinion.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

How does this tedious topic even get so many pages every year without fail?

My conclusion is that we're all shit and tinpot even if we've all had our days in the Sun at some point, just some clubs in this league are just bankrolled to this less shit level from the glue leagues or below that the vast majority of us will never even see.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Saw this on Reddit a few weeks ago (aka I have found Shoddy's Reddit account)...

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bo127z

We're Yorkshire's most successful club, no way are United above us. (Granted being Yorkshire's most successful isn't a tall order)

 

[Spanishstag]

We're Yorkshire's most successful club, no way are United above us. (Granted being Yorkshire's most successful isn't a tall order)

Its a bit like being the tallest dwarf in knotty ash

 

[Spanishstag]

Was that because their first ever game was against Mansfield?!

You really make me laugh better than them two from nutts

 

[shoddycollins]

Was that because their first ever game was against Mansfield?!

Was against Tranmere, the final score was 1-0 Tranmere with the winner scored by Kevin Ellison just as he was coming into his prime.

Weren't they called Ironopolis anyway? Not sure where Chris got Ironsides from.

 

[AnotherStagsFan]

This is all great but no matter which way you look at it, why are people rating Northampton in the top 10?! Baffled!

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

This is all great but no matter which way you look at it, why are people rating Northampton in the top 10?! Baffled!

Worth noting Northampton haven't played in the top two tiers since the mid 1960s and are pretty much one of the most fourth division clubs to ever exist along with ourselves, Rochdale, Torquay, Hartlepool and Darlington.

 

[AnotherStagsFan]

Worth noting Northampton haven't played in the top two tiers since the mid 1960s and are pretty much one of the most fourth division clubs to ever exist along with ourselves, Rochdale, Torquay, Hartlepool and Darlington.

Probably the most middle of the road team in English history, including the location. Happily admit they are bigger than stags but someone had them 8th

 

[Jerry]

Worth noting Northampton haven't played in the top two tiers since the mid 1960s and are pretty much one of the most fourth division clubs to ever exist along with ourselves, Rochdale, Torquay, Hartlepool and Darlington.

You got the top four correct (we are all well clear of the pack) but you and Northampton come behind Lincoln and Exeter in number of division 4 games played.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-two/all-time-table/

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Seasons spent in League Two since it was founded in 1958 (current L2 clubs only)

1. Exeter 41 (+5 in non league)
2. Northampton 40
3. Crewe 39
4. Scunthorpe 36
5. Mansfield 34 (+5 in non league)
6. Colchester 28 (+2 in non league)
7. Carlisle 27 (+1 in non league)
8. Newport 25 (+25 in non league)
9. Bradford 24
10. Cambridge 21 (+ 9 in Conference and pre 1970 in the non league)
11. Port Vale 21
12. Tranmere 19 (+3 in non league)
13. Grimsby 18 (+ 6 in non league)
14. Leyton Orient 18 (+2 in non league)
15. Macclesfield 16 (+ rest bar 1 in non league)
16. Cheltenham 16 (+ rest bar 4 in non league)
17. Morecambe 13 (+ rest in non league)
18. Plymouth 13
19. Walsall 10
20. Oldham 9
21. Swindon 9
22. Stevenage 7 (+ rest bar 3 in non league)
23. Crawley 6 (+ rest bar 3 in non league)
24. Forest Green 3 (+ rest in non league)
25. Salford 1 (+ rest in non league)

Summary: We're all shit

 

[F!RTHY]

Seasons spent in League Two since it was founded in 1958 (current L2 clubs only)

1. Exeter 41 (+5 in non league)
2. Northampton 40
3. Crewe 39
4. Scunthorpe 36
5. Mansfield 34 (+5 in non league)
6. Colchester 28 (+2 in non league)
7. Carlisle 27 (+1 in non league)
8. Newport 25 (+25 in non league)
9. Bradford 24
10. Cambridge 21 (+ 9 in Conference and pre 1970 in the non league)
11. Port Vale 21
12. Tranmere 19 (+3 in non league)
13. Grimsby 18 (+ 6 in non league)
14. Leyton Orient 18 (+2 in non league)
15. Macclesfield 16 (+ rest bar 1 in non league)
16. Cheltenham 16 (+ rest bar 4 in non league)
17. Morecambe 13 (+ rest in non league)
18. Plymouth 13
19. Walsall 10
20. Oldham 9
21. Swindon 9
22. Stevenage 7 (+ rest bar 3 in non league)
23. Crawley 6 (+ rest bar 3 in non league)
24. Forest Green 3 (+ rest in non league)
25. Salford 1 (+ rest in non league)

Summary: We're all shit

We’ve spent more season’s in the Champ than L2, so there.

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Probably the most middle of the road team in English history, including the location. Happily admit they are bigger than stags but someone had them 8th

We are the ninth current fourth division team in the big list?