Dan Micciche - New MK Dons manager

[Bobbin']

 

[WhiteRussian]

Promotion from within basically. Former head of the academy and something in the England set up I believe. Keith Millen as assistant and Dean Lewington, player coach.

I know Winkelman has a habit of hiring 'outside the box' but I don't think this is a good idea with us in a pretty dire position in the league.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Simon Grayson seemed like the best option, surely? Winkelman tightening the purse strings?

 

[DippyDon]

Simon Grayson seemed like the best option, surely? Winkelman tightening the purse strings?

Grayson didn't want it. Whether it's similar to the Kenny Jackett fiasco of last season where Winkelman was strict in keeping his son as head of recruitment I'm not sure. But this is a typical MK deal. Similar to when we brought Karl Robinson in we've a young manager that knows the club, has a wealth of experience at youth levels in multiple places (Premier League, MK Dons, England) and an experienced Assistant Manager in Keith Millen. Dean Lewington is also back at the club which we're all happy about.
Not sure whether the experiment is needed, but the last three rookie managers we've had all worked out. (Paul Ince part 1, Roberto Di Matteo and Karl Robinson)

 

[NorfolkWomble]

Fingers crossed he fucks it up.

Can see it being quite a shrewd appointment, especially with Keith Millen who has a boat load of experience.

And with Chris Powell rocking up at Southend too.... Not looking good for us clubs low in the table.

 

[Hurrikeen]

Have a feeling that, despite Wellens having only recently got the gig, when this takeover is completed we may go after someone like Grayson...

 

[T.A]

Have a feeling that, despite Wellens having only recently got the gig, when this takeover is completed we may go after someone like Grayson...

Is that after you make the P/O? It would have to be a lot of money for him to consider a club in this league.

 

[Hurrikeen]

Is that after you make the P/O? It would have to be a lot of money for him to consider a club in this league.

Nice dig haha.

Seriously though, wouldn’t rule it out. Ambitious for a team like us I agree, but we’ve suddenly started paying players £6k a week, so this new owner of ours clearly has some cash to hand out. My worry is if he employs some no-mark foreigner with no idea of lower league football in England.

 

[PuB]

Yeah, that kind of approach worked really well at Orient

 

[Sheffsteel]

Feel a bit sorry for Winkleman.
He saw MKD as a fantastic business opportunity to start a new league club in a part of the country with a large wealthy population but no league club. He’s built a fantastic stadium and ran loads of cheap ticket promotions to encourage the locals to support their team.

It’s the classics franchise approach that works so well in the US. It makes full logical sense to take football out to the people.
The problem is football is about tradition and the MK population are probably more bothered about Man U, Liverpool, Spurs etc than the MK Dons.

Some have been saying give it time but it looks like the MKD franchise experiment isn’t ever going to work.
Makes you wonder where it’s all heading. If MKD get relegated to league 2 it makes you wonder about their future.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Feel a bit sorry for Winkleman.
He saw MKD as a fantastic business opportunity to start a new league club in a part of the country with a large wealthy population but no league club. He’s built a fantastic stadium and ran loads of cheap ticket promotions to encourage the locals to support their team.

It’s the classics franchise approach that works so well in the US. It makes full logical sense to take football out to the people.
The problem is football is about tradition and the MK population are probably more bothered about Man U, Liverpool, Spurs etc than the MK Dons.

Some have been saying give it time but it looks like the MKD franchise experiment isn’t ever going to work.
Makes you wonder where it’s all heading. If MKD get relegated to league 2 it makes you wonder about their future.

Struggling to feel any sympathy, if he’d a started a club from non league like others then yeah. But you know what they say about karma.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Struggling to feel any sympathy, if he’d a started a club from non league like others then yeah. But you know what they say about karma.

Know what you mean but that’s just a romantic English traditional view. In the US they’d not understand what you’re talking about.

They tend to take franchises off clubs with falling attendances and little to offer and only agree to clubs with something to offer commercially. They believe in survival of the fittest, clubs with little support and little commercial strength fall by the wayside.

Not saying it’s right, it’s just an alternative view. I was around in the 80’s and once the romantic novelty of WFC’s amazing rags to riches success wore off I used to hate playing Wimbledon. Their used to bring about 100 fans to Bramall Lane, always a poor atmosphere and usually our lowest crowd of the season. Also we used to always lose at Plough Lane, which was basically a non league standard ground.

If you care about the world wide reputation and future of English football then would you want the biggest clubs with the biggest support and best stadiums in the higher divisions or have the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley, Swansea, Huddersfield, Watford etc in the top flight.

 

[EricSabin]

Those teams you listed got there on merit

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Feel a bit sorry for Winkleman.
He saw MKD as a fantastic business opportunity to start a new league club in a part of the country with a large wealthy population but no league club. He’s built a fantastic stadium and ran loads of cheap ticket promotions to encourage the locals to support their team.

It’s the classics franchise approach that works so well in the US. It makes full logical sense to take football out to the people.
The problem is football is about tradition and the MK population are probably more bothered about Man U, Liverpool, Spurs etc than the MK Dons.

Some have been saying give it time but it looks like the MKD franchise experiment isn’t ever going to work.
Makes you wonder where it’s all heading. If MKD get relegated to league 2 it makes you wonder about their future.

Seriously fuck off. Hope they crash and burn and he gets bankrupted

 

[Sheffsteel]

Seriously fuck off. Hope they crash and burn and he gets bankrupted

Can understand the sentiment with MKD.
I have friends that moved from Sheffield to MK 15 years ago.
Get the impression it’s taking longer than Winkleman expected to develope a decent supporter base.

Agree with Sabin too, it’s what makes the football outside the US special.
The US model is logical to grow a sport but there’s more to sport than supporting the best and chasing glamour.
It’s about loyalty, tradition, supporting your community
And keeping alive the hope and dream that the club you support could achieve something (I’m still waiting).

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Can understand the sentiment with MKD.
I have friends that moved from Sheffield to MK 15 years ago.
Get the impression it’s taking longer than Winkleman expected to develope a decent supporter base.

Agree with Sabin too, it’s what makes the football outside the US special.
The US model is logical to grow a sport but there’s more to sport than supporting the best and chasing glamour.
It’s about loyalty, tradition and supporting your community.

I lived in the area for two years and my ex boss moved there in 1997 from up here.

I've more culture in my fridge

 

[Sheffsteel]

I've more culture in my fridge

That’s actually quite funny because it’s probably accurate

Before any Wombles fan accuses me of jealousy I admit that at first I admired Wimbledons amazing rise. Don’t think we’ll see a non league club rise to finish 6th in the PL ever.

But eventually I admit to thinking “how come they’ve achieved more in 5 years than what my club has achieved in the last 50 years”.

I used to watch the Wombles in the 70’s and only ever associated Wimbledon with tennis and to piss me off even more apparently their secret was hard work and a special team spirit. Madness ha ha.

 

[NorfolkWomble]

Feel a bit sorry for Winkleman.
He saw MKD as a fantastic business opportunity to start a new league club in a part of the country with a large wealthy population but no league club. He’s built a fantastic stadium and ran loads of cheap ticket promotions to encourage the locals to support their team.

It’s the classics franchise approach that works so well in the US. It makes full logical sense to take football out to the people.
The problem is football is about tradition and the MK population are probably more bothered about Man U, Liverpool, Spurs etc than the MK Dons.

Some have been saying give it time but it looks like the MKD franchise experiment isn’t ever going to work.
Makes you wonder where it’s all heading. If MKD get relegated to league 2 it makes you wonder about their future.

Feel sorry for Winkleman?

State of you, feeling sorry for a guy who ripped a club away from its community in order to make money.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Know what you mean but that’s just a romantic English traditional view. In the US they’d not understand what you’re talking about.

They tend to take franchises off clubs with falling attendances and little to offer and only agree to clubs with something to offer commercially. They believe in survival of the fittest, clubs with little support and little commercial strength fall by the wayside.

Not saying it’s right, it’s just an alternative view. I was around in the 80’s and once the romantic novelty of WFC’s amazing rags to riches success wore off I used to hate playing Wimbledon. Their used to bring about 100 fans to Bramall Lane, always a poor atmosphere and usually our lowest crowd of the season. Also we used to always lose at Plough Lane, which was basically a non league standard ground.

If you care about the world wide reputation and future of English football then would you want the biggest clubs with the biggest support and best stadiums in the higher divisions or have the likes of Bournemouth, Burnley, Swansea, Huddersfield, Watford etc in the top flight.

Yes I probably am traditional, I can't do with US sport tbh. A sporting club is a big part of any local community, Winkleman helped destroy that so I can't imagine he will ever get much sympathy.

 

[WhiteRussian]

Some have been saying give it time but it looks like the MKD franchise experiment isn’t ever going to work.
Makes you wonder where it’s all heading. If MKD get relegated to league 2 it makes you wonder about their future.

Without getting into a rehash about the whys and wherefores about the existance of MK Dons, why do you think the 'experiment' isn't going to work? We are having our worst season for years still have the 7th highest average attendance in league 1. Yes, there are a huge number of premier supporters in MK because a lot of our population has relocated from London and that isn't going to change anytime soon. As for the stadium, of course it is too big for the football team but it makes it's money from other events it hosts. I'll have you know we have the largest convention of Jehovahs Witnesses outside the US at Winkelman's bowl

 

[Meadow]

My biggest football regret is that I didn't get involved in the 2002 protests. I was all loved up with a toddler at the time. I followed the whole sorry debacle on the news pages and wept when that ridiculous decision was made to allow that move.

MK have had an easy ride but we've had to go through 6 promotions to get to the same level. It's been an absolute blast though.

 

[KeithH]

That’s actually quite funny because it’s probably accurate

Before any Wombles fan accuses me of jealousy I admit that at first I admired Wimbledons amazing rise. Don’t think we’ll see a non league club rise to finish 6th in the PL ever.

But eventually I admit to thinking “how come they’ve achieved more in 5 years than what my club has achieved in the last 50 years”.

I used to watch the Wombles in the 70’s and only ever associated Wimbledon with tennis and to piss me off even more apparently their secret was hard work and a special team spirit. Madness ha ha.

Wigan didnt do too bad

 

[KeithH]

Feel sorry for Winkleman?

State of you, feeling sorry for a guy who ripped a club away from its community in order to make money.

And thinks fans are racist for singing come on you whites!!!! Mans a prat and deserves nothing but contempt

 

[SoutheySWFC]

My biggest football regret is that I didn't get involved in the 2002 protests. I was all loved up with a toddler at the time.

 

[SoutheySWFC]

Without getting into a rehash about the whys and wherefores about the existance of MK Dons, why do you think the 'experiment' isn't going to work? We are having our worst season for years still have the 7th highest average attendance in league 1. Yes, there are a huge number of premier supporters in MK because a lot of our population has relocated from London and that isn't going to change anytime soon. As for the stadium, of course it is too big for the football team but it makes it's money from other events it hosts. I'll have you know we have the largest convention of Jehovahs Witnesses outside the US at Winkelman's bowl

You're actually 8th if you count home fans only.