Donald Trump

[Ebeneezer Goode]

What are the smarter ways? The problem is that the fash are thriving in notoriety. Someone like Piers Morgan, who has bounced around the political spectrum, are currently coming out as fascists.

 

[mnb089mnb]

I can understand wanting to take someone like that down but there are smarter ways.

Like having a friend crouch down behind him and then push him over.

 

[Ian_Wrexham]

My issue is with attacking the man on camera. All that does is gift wrap a nice piece of propaganda for people like Spencer to spread around the internet and attract would-be white supremacists to the "cause". Look at what this stupid black man/left-winger/whatever did to me, see, I told you they were all violent.

If the urge to punch his lights out is so strong then why not do it off camera? If Spencer and his ilk are thriving on notoriety like you say then doing something that gets Richard Spencer's name all over the internet within minutes of smacking him one is probably the worst thing that you can do besides lopping his head off, shouting Allāhu akbar and making him a martyr.

You know more about this type of thing than me but my first impression is that the way this guy decided to "fight back" is counter-productive.

Fascism is an ideology that propagates itself through violence. There is no way to beat it without using violence. That doesn't mean punching nazis at every opportunity is the right thing to do (it is though).

Does Richard Spencer being punched motivate the alt-right to retaliate? Probably. But it also energises and enthuses our side. The sight of America's most prominent fascist taking a right hook to the face spread so much joy. We're all going to need to dig in for a very long fight, so we might as well have some entertainment for the troops first.

 

[Aber gas]

My issue is with attacking the man on camera. All that does is gift wrap a nice piece of propaganda for people like Spencer to spread around the internet and attract would-be white supremacists to the "cause". Look at what this stupid black man/left-winger/whatever did to me, see, I told you they were all violent.

If the urge to punch his lights out is so strong then why not do it off camera? If Spencer and his ilk are thriving on notoriety like you say then doing something that gets Richard Spencer's name all over the internet within minutes of smacking him one is probably the worst thing that you can do besides lopping his head off, shouting Allāhu akbar and making him a martyr.

You know more about this type of thing than me but my first impression is that the way this guy decided to "fight back" is counter-productive.

I hope it happens every day Ste. Fascists only understand violence and fear. The swaggering, arrogant attitude of these neo nazis has been enabled by the inactivity of the liberal left. Every time a nazi gets punched in the face the aura diminishes, the arrogance becomes less and the surety of their position weakens. Leftist political violence is a good and right thing. I hope to see much more of it this year.

 

[Stevencc]

Fair enough lads - I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. I hope you are right and that Spencer doesn't manage to spin what happened into anything positive for himself or his ilk.

 

[Abertawe]

I don't know if this is legit but

Look at this Trump supporter go too, "lets go bitch"

https://twitter.com/rejialex7/status/823224998051581953?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Leftist political violence is a good and right thing.

Morons like you create more fascists than Richard Spencer does.

 

[Aber gas]

I don't know if this is legit but

Look at this Trump supporter go too, "lets go bitch"

https://twitter.com/rejialex7/status/823224998051581953?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

It's been taken down now by jobsworths but I would have quite happily drop kicked the impatient weirdo.

 

[Aber gas]

Morons like you create more fascists than Richard Spencer does.

Don't cry snowflake.

 

[Stevencc]

Come on lads, have a proper debate about something instead of calling each other morons and snowflakes.

Make the politics section proud!

 

[Aber gas]

He started it.

 

[mnb089mnb]

He started it.

He invaded Poland!

 

[Aber gas]

It's a bit weird tho innit mates. People are more worked up about a nazi weirdo being punched than the fact that a nazi weirdo felt emboldened enough to be interviewed about being a nazi c*** on a street.

 

[Abertawe]

In all seriousness I hadn't even heard of Richard Spencer before this clip went viral & likewise that Milo who Ian referenced earlier. I do think you're in danger of giving them a platform they wouldn't otherwise have which will ultimately do more harm than good. Surely employing a news black out and leaving the little creeps to their own small audience is better than broadcasting them for the world to see. Trump isn't a fascist, indeed calling him one I'd say it's a slur on all those who have suffered as a result of fascists. Trump cares only about money not race so if you're defining him as a fascist on that basis you're already losing.

Can someone explain just what the fuck those marches in support of women were for too? I mean you've got women being stoned to death for getting raped & little girls getting sold off as brides yet millions come out to campaign for women on the basis of some crude banter? This from Kim Kardashian is about as perverse as it gets https://www.facebook.com/KimKardash...14696805612/10158169703455613/?type=3&theater. A women who uses her fame to project an image that it's okay and actually good to act like an absolute sket, yeah that really empowers young girls to grow into strong women.

The one positive we'll get from Trump if nothing else is that all this liberal moral agenda setting bullshit stands a good chance of getting eradicated or doused down at the very least. There are some very real things to get offended about, Trump being a crude motherfucker or un-pc terms getting banded about isn't one of them.

 

[Aber gas]

In all seriousness I hadn't even heard of Richard Spencer before this clip went viral & likewise that Milo who Ian referenced earlier. I do think you're in danger of giving them a platform they wouldn't otherwise have which will ultimately do more harm than good. Surely employing a news black out and leaving the little creeps to their own small audience is better than broadcasting them for the world to see. Trump isn't a fascist, indeed calling him one I'd say it's a slur on all those who have suffered as a result of fascists. Trump cares only about money not race so if you're defining him as a fascist on that basis you're already losing.

Can someone explain just what the fuck those marches in support of women were for too? I mean you've got women being stoned to death for getting raped & little girls getting sold off as brides yet millions come out to campaign for women on the basis of some crude banter? This from Kim Kardashian is about as perverse as it gets https://www.facebook.com/KimKardash...14696805612/10158169703455613/?type=3&theater. A women who uses her fame to project an image that it's okay and actually good to act like an absolute sket, yeah that really empowers young girls to grow into strong women.

The one positive we'll get from Trump if nothing else is that all this liberal moral agenda setting bullshit stands a good chance of getting eradicated or doused down at the very least. There are some very real things to get offended about, Trump being a crude motherfucker or un-pc terms getting banded about isn't one of them.

It's quite cute how like a load of fash misogynists ( not you) have suddenly found a deep interest and profound feelz for the downtrodden women of Saudia Arabia. I'm embarrassed for them, I'm all for virtue signalling but this is taking the piss.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

It's a bit weird tho innit mates. People are more worked up about a nazi weirdo being punched than the fact that a nazi weirdo felt emboldened enough to be interviewed about being a nazi c*** on a street.

You can't have a free society only when it suits.

 

[Abertawe]

It's quite cute how like a load of fash misogynists ( not you) have suddenly found a deep interest and profound feelz for the downtrodden women of Saudia Arabia. I'm embarrassed for them, I'm all for virtue signalling but this is taking the piss.

Whilst it might be put on it doesn't make their point any less true though mate. The femicide crisis in S America is another example, often in countries where the US participated in or funded coups to instill the governments that allow these horrors to occur. Those millions protesting should hang their heads in shame imho. Spoiled ignorant brats who don't know how good they've got it. It's a sad reflection on society when a crude comment receives more attention than the millions of women who are beaten, mutilated, raped, forced into marriage & murdered all around the world every year.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Except he didn't run a racist & misogynistic campaign that's merely conjecture on your part. What we know to be true is the the other candidate accepted around £20m dollars from Saudi Arabia for her foundation (which is just racking up interest and not actually being used for anything).

Fucking libtards. LGBT & women in Saudi don't matter evidently.

Ah, ok, my bad. Must have been someone else who was looking to ban Muslims from the States, build a Mexican border wall while grabbing women by the pussy and threatening their reproductive rights.

Think the Saudi regime is abhorrent fwiw. Dunno why it features in response to my post other than your obvious fondness for a bit of whataboutery.

 

[Abertawe]

Ah, ok, my bad. Must have been someone else who was looking to ban Muslims from the States, build a Mexican border wall while grabbing women by the pussy and threatening their reproductive rights.

Think the Saudi regime is abhorrent fwiw. Dunno why it features in response to my post other than your obvious fondness for a bit of whataboutery.

And none of those things you've mentioned fall into the definition of racist so have a pat on the back.

The Muslim ban isn't gonna happen www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeff-sessions-muslim-ban_us_58750b0ee4b02b5f858b3305

Nothing is lost by building a wall, it'll make the smuggling of drugs, people & weapons a lot harder.

Grabbing by the pussy was crude but if you haven't heard worse you've lived a very sheltered life. As I've previously said those comments pale into insignificance given the very real horrors that effect women, horrors that I've never once seen you kick up a fuss about, funny that.

When contraception is plentiful abortion shouldn't be so easy anyway so I don't see what your logic is. Abortion should only be a last resort or as a result of exceptional circumstances (rape, under-age or where doctors have identified an extreme disability).

Perhaps it would be wise for you to look at the causes of the issues you cite rather than being a reactionary good for nothing who just repeats the headlines put out by libtard media who seek to set a moral agenda not for the good of humanity but as a tool for materialism. If they cared for all things they're slamming Trump with they'd set about previous administrations who are actually implicit in horrors that scar the world on a daily basis.

So much hypocrisy borne out ignorance it's frightening. If degrading Trump makes you feel like a good person Mr Partridge then do carry on, I'm sure the women of Chad feel really empowered.

 

[Abertawe]

Exclusive footage taken from inside The Paranoid Partridge bedroom

 

[Ian_Wrexham]

You can't have a free society only when it suits.

Freedom to advocate for genocide isn't a freedom I recognise.

 

[Martino Quackavelli]

Do we have to call everything vaguely right-wing Fascist? Y'all are as bad as Americans calling anything left of the Democrats Communist.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Do we have to call everything vaguely right-wing Fascist? Y'all are as bad as Americans calling anything left of the Democrats Communist.

This, the term is being thrown around so commonly at the moment its hyperbolic. It isn't even a term that is exclusively right wing by definition.

When Trump or May start banning other political parties and smashing up the printing presses of publications they don't like, THEN we'll start talking about fascism.

 

[johnnytodd]

State of Abergas in this thread.

 

[Abertawe]

Freedom to advocate for genocide isn't a freedom I recognise.

You know full well the US has been complicit in genocide for decades, long before Trump or any alt-right hangers came on the scene. Where is the condemnation from you for things that actually happened?

 

[mnb089mnb]

This, the term is being thrown around so commonly at the moment its hyperbolic. It isn't even a term that is exclusively right wing by definition.

When Trump or May start banning other political parties and smashing up the printing presses of publications they don't like, THEN we'll start talking about fascism.

While we're moaning about terminology it's not very nice seeing "libtard" used on here.

 

[Abertawe]

While we're moaning about terminology it's not very nice seeing "libtard" used on here.

But it's an absolutely brilliant term and the fact you've moaned about it is just so

 

[sl1k]

I say let them have a platform, and attack their beliefs and values intellectually. Now I'm impartial to punching a Nazi in the face - God knows those of my dad's generation (and many who were just a few years older than me) often had to around here; to protect their homes, businesses, for the right to wear Asian/Islamic dress without fear of attack and/or abuse, to make it clear throwing alcohol and swine in to a mosque isn't acceptable. Fuck them pussies up all day fucking long, yo.

But attacking the foundations of their perceptions, to me, would seem the best way to turn it all to rubble.

But let's fuck em up too.

 

[mnb089mnb]

But it's an absolutely brilliant term and the fact you've moaned about it is just so

Ah, so you're trolling. I guess a Trump/Corbyinista half and half scarfer was too good to be true.

 

[Abertawe]

Ah, so you're trolling. I guess a Trump/Corbyinista half and half scarfer was too good to be true.

Very weak reply. As with all libtards the ability to substantiate what you say with reason & logic is lacking. I'm not half anything. It's people like you that provided the catalyst for Trump to get elected, "don't say that it doesn't fit with my own subjective agenda"

Are those tears salty?