Escalating crisis. police/black community (snipers kill three cops, ten more injured)

[Kopper]

The US federal system is tyrannous and corrupt. The founding fathers said every so often an armed uprising was necessary to restore liberty when the state, inevitably, abused it's power.

It's why Americans are permitted to own guns.

It strikes the founding fathers (race aside) would be proud of the people who executed these police officers.

 

[Stevencc]

And they say..

 

[Kopper]

We've gone past the point of empty slogans.

If the US government won't apprehend these murderous police officers then the people must. And given inequality in power, they must do so by any means necessary.

 

[Stevencc]

We've gone past the point of empty slogans.

If the US government won't prevent these murderous police officers then the people must.

If you strongly feel that way you are pretty much making empty statements yourself unless you plan to go over to the U.S and kill a few policemen yourself. Or were you just trying to be edgy?

My point wasn't the slogan anyway - it was just to provide an alternative to the video G-Dragon posted. Videos like that aren't pretty but spreading them around is only going to further divisions, isn't it?

 

[Kopper]

If you strongly feel that way you are pretty much making empty statements yourself unless you plan to go over to the U.S and kill a few policemen yourself. Or were you just trying to be edgy?

My point wasn't the slogan anyway - it was just to provide an alternative to the video G-Dragon posted. Videos like that aren't pretty but spreading them around is only going to further divisions, isn't it?

I feel strongly about air pollution and waste but I don't berate everyone contributing to those problems. I can only do my bit. And my bit is to highlight the need for the US populace to fight back. Providing a little balance to the constant hand wringing and navel gazing on this issue.

If I was being edgy I wouldn't have felt the need to explain the reason behind the 2nd amendment. And if you weren't being obtuse you would've recognised the validity of my point and countered it with one of your own.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

I think he was giving you the benefit of the doubt by suggesting you were just trying to be edgy, because the alternative explanation is not so kind.

 

[G-Dragon]

My point wasn't the slogan anyway - it was just to provide an alternative to the video G-Dragon posted. Videos like that aren't pretty but spreading them around is only going to further divisions, isn't it?

Tbh my point was just that everything has a bad and good side. These people are making out as if ONLY black lives matter and ALL the cops are racist towards ONLY the black community. If they don't want all the black people to be judged by those kinds of actions (in the video), they shouldn't judge all the cops the same way.

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

There is an institutionalised racism inherent in the architectures of the US justice system. There is no inherent proclivity towards violence (directed at the police or anyone else) amongst people of colour.

There is no equivalence to be drawn.

You are not smart.

 

[thespus]

I feel strongly about air pollution and waste but I don't berate everyone contributing to those problems. I can only do my bit. And my bit is to highlight the need for the US populace to fight back. Providing a little balance to the constant hand wringing and navel gazing on this issue.

If I was being edgy I wouldn't have felt the need to explain the reason behind the 2nd amendment. And if you weren't being obtuse you would've recognised the validity of my point and countered it with one of your own.

"People need to do their part, and my part is to tell other people to do their part on a niche part of the internet."

 

[G-Dragon]

There is no inherent proclivity towards violence (directed at the police or anyone else) amongst people of colour.

There is no equivalence to be drawn.

You are not smart.

Joke of the year from the genius. Also, tell that to the innocent cops who died trying to help them.

 

[Aber gas]

Joke of the year from the genius. Also, tell that to the innocent cops who died trying to help them.

I'm confused, which part of Carel's post have you taken umbrage with?

 

[Jockney]

I'm confused, which part of Carel's post have you taken umbrage with?

Just you try telling those dead cops that G-Dragon ain't smart.

 

[G-Dragon]

I'm confused, which part of Carel's post have you taken umbrage with?

Who is this Carel you speak of?

 

[Aber gas]

Who is this Carel you speak of?

Apologies, I should have been clearer. Which part of Martino Knockavelli's post do you disagree with? People of colour don't have a inherent proclivity to violence or you being not smart?

 

[G-Dragon]

Apologies, I should have been clearer. Which part of Martino Knockavelli's post do you disagree with? People of colour don't have a inherent proclivity to violence or you being not smart?

No problem. I understand some people are just a little bit slow. Maybe a visual portrayal will help you understand.

 

[Aber gas]

No problem. I understand some people are just a little bit slow. Maybe a visual portrayal will help you understand.

Doesn't answer my question does it love. That's a picture of someone protesting against police shootings.

 

[G-Dragon]

Doesn't answer my question does it love. That's a picture of someone protesting against police shootings.

Surprised you didn't mention the women holding her paper plate. Good start.

 

[Aber gas]

This is like talking to a wardrobe or a side of pork. I mean I've gathered you're not a bright lad but this is painful. I'll try again, do you think people of colour are inherently more predisposed to violence than white folk?

 

[Kopper]

Stevencc has no need to pull his punches. We're all big boys on here.

I also don't think he's so dense as to miss the overall point I was making.
The keen observer will note he didn't take the opportunity to refute my argument. He couldn't as the points were factually correct. His only recourse would've been to interpret those facts to meet his ends. But that would've been a blunder. Something that wouldn't have gone unpunished.

 

[G-Dragon]

This is like talking to a wardrobe or a side of pork. I mean I've gathered you're not a bright lad but this is painful. I'll try again, do you think people of colour are inherently more predisposed to violence than white folk?

I didn't think you were this slow. Maybe you really need to seek some help. #AllLivesMatter

 

[Abertawe]

This is like talking to a wardrobe or a side of pork. I mean I've gathered you're not a bright lad but this is painful. I'll try again, do you think people of colour are inherently more predisposed to violence than white folk?

He's reverted to trolling mate, don't engage him.

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

Maybe a visual portrayal will help you understand.

Don't make me make you a collage. I'll do it, you know.

 

[G-Dragon]

Don't make me make you a collage. I'll do it, you know.

So you need one?

 

[SeasiderDude95]

i'm most concerned with the fact the terrorist was killed by a robot carrying a bomb. call me old fashioned, but police departments shouldn't have bombs

 

[Kopper]

"People need to do their part, and my part is to tell other people to do their part on a niche part of the internet."

Niche site?

This is the No 1 football forum on the internet

 

[G-Dragon]

i'm most concerned with the fact the terrorist was killed by a robot carrying a bomb.

Better than the terrorist killing more innocent people.

 

[SeasiderDude95]

well, yes. a slap to the face is better than a kick to the nuts, but neither are something u particuarly want. only other time i can recall police bombing someone in the u.s. was when a helicopter dropped two bombs on the MOVE group in philly, destroying 65 homes. so u can understand that it's not exactly a comforting precedent. especially when police have shown such a worrying habit of shooting the wrong people lately. but ofc they can get away with anything when it's in the name of fighting terror

 

[G-Dragon]

So it just happened once before. And obviously the two cases are different. This time it was justified.

 

[SeasiderDude95]

u don't see anything untoward with american police forces better equipped than coalition troops in afghanistan?

 

[G-Dragon]

My original point was that the use of grenade was justified. I am not sure where u get that the american police forces are better equipped than american coalition troops in Afghanistan.