FIFA Arrests Made for Fraud

[CEngelbrecht]

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
- Bill Shankly

 

[mente captus]

if this corruption is usual at Fifa and uefa a (swiss) court could liquidate both organisations for being a criminal association.

 

[mowgli]

if this corruption is usual at Fifa and uefa a (swiss) court could liquidate both organisations for being a criminal association.

The Americans will have their input too, after all they started the investigation.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

"The companies hiring the workers are responsible for their workers, and not Fifa."
- Sepp Blatter, on the death tolls amongst "Kafala" slave labourers building Qatarian football stadiums, currently estimated to reach 4,000, or an average of 62 dead builders per game played in the upcoming 2022 World Cup.

"Sepp Platter deserves the Nobel peace prize for his work with FIFA."
- Vladimir f*** Putin

Three dead Kafala per player on the field. Three ... per ... player.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

It's simple: If the world cup is ever actually held in Qatar, each player going there to play for that hollow piece of bling, they will for the rest of their lives be a ****. There's no other word for it. They will go down on their knees and take that sick member up their rectum.

Three dead Kafala for each and every player on the field in every single match. Remember that, you, who are to play for proud England in seven years time, for the country where the game originated. One dead Kafala for each lion on your emblem.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

I'd honestly rather we boycotted the 2022 world cup, though the FA won't have the bollocks to do that.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

South Africa was once the skunk of the world. That indignity is currently held by the Arab oil nations. One of the methods to get South Africa out of the darkness was via sports boycott. It works.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

From a BBC comment:

the former France international [suspended Michel Platini] raged against the disciplinary process, condemning the allegations as "astonishingly vague", and submitted his candidacy papers anyway in a mood of "staunch defiance". In a bizarre statement, he hinted at being the victim of a conspiracy "to taint a lifelong devotee of the game", and described his suspension as "farcical".

What the fuck is going on here? Has Platini indeed been caught redhanded with the rest of them, or has he been lured into a Machiavellian trap in a petty act of revenge by Blatter or someone else at FIFA? Is this why Greg Dyke hasn't pulled the support for Platini? I hate this Loki bullshit.

 

[mnb089mnb]

It's simple: If the world cup is ever actually held in Qatar, each player going there to play for that hollow piece of bling, they will for the rest of their lives be a ****.

Huh?

 

[The East Terrace]

I'd honestly rather we boycotted the 2022 world cup, though the FA won't have the bollocks to do that.

Its not bollocks, they just want the jolly up, all on expenses naturally. FA are just as bad as FIFA/UEFA and the rest. Jobs for the boys with a nice little holiday every 2 summers, even if England fail to qualify our FA bigwigs will be there quaffing champers, scoffing oysters and generally loafing about.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

Huh?

People need to start becoming seriously pissed off about this. They gotta stop going, "Blah. It's just football, innit?"

 

[TheMinsterman]

If you think revoking the World Cup will make a lick of difference to the plight of migrant workers you're being incredibly naïve. The only reason this issue has become more prominent is because they were awarded the World Cup, watch how quickly media in the West stop giving a shit when you take it off them, you won't get anything approaching the exposure and pressure you've had recently, just look at how often it was widely reported on before the FIFA scandals. It's not a new issue

As for the chart, deliberately misleading. Comparing sports related worker deaths at previous events with worker deaths across an entire country is deliberately misleading to try and overemphasise a point which doesn't need data extrapolation to be relevant. Migrant workers need to be treated a lot better, but that's not the only issue in this web, there's a reason that despite the risks they keep going there.

EDIT - And if you want to know why it's misleading, a) it doesn't tell you how the sources involved got to this figure (were you aware that some include migrants dying in road accidents?), NGOs are as guilty of inflating numbers as Gulf states are of deflating them b) If you used the same method they just did but swapped UK out with Qatar, you'd have roughly 795 workplace deaths in industry.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

Either that, or losing the world cup will be such a devastating loss of prestige (which seems to matter way too much to them oil peddlers), that it'll finally wake them up. Again, something seemed to work punishing apartheid South Africa on sports, even though it took too long.

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
- Mark Twain

 

[CEngelbrecht]

Michel Platini: Uefa still supports president's Fifa bid

I don't fucking know what to believe anymore. Is the whole umbrella just completely rotten, or is there some petty revenge by Blatter against Platini going on, that they can't say out loud?

 

[TheMinsterman]

Either that, or losing the world cup will be such a devastating loss of prestige (which seems to matter way too much to them oil peddlers), that it'll finally wake them up. Again, something seemed to work punishing apartheid South Africa on sports, even though it took too long.

Unfortunately the two situations are dissimilar, for one the "oil peddlers" are incredibly wealthy, as much as revoking it may annoy them it won't cripple them, secondly these are not "indigenous" people they're discriminating against, they're migrants who normally have a finite period to stay there. Thirdly, and most importantly, no matter what you do in Qatar or the other countries in the region, it will do nothing at all to address the push factors driving migrants into dangerous situations, simple fact is they earn more in the Gulf and, disturbingly, the construction industry is even more dangerous in the subcontinent than in in the Gulf. This ignores the general instability, civil wars, social imbalance and other factors. Oddly enough, the campaigners who are so concerned with migrants lives don't ever focus all that much on what they're trying to escape and would be returned to.

 

[Stevencc]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/16/german-fa-buy-votes-2006-world-cup

 

[JimJams]

They most likely did buy votes, as I'd imagine pretty much everyone has done as it seems that's been the procedure to get yourself a tournament. We've obviously just been tighter since '96 than our counterparts.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/16/german-fa-buy-votes-2006-world-cup

And:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-with-former-adidas-ceo-s-money-a6696936.html
Quote: "Every bidding process since Italia ’90 has now been implicated in some sort of financial irregularity"

Better or Blatter, now that is the question. Hopefully in 50 years it'll say: "The level of corruption around the turn of the millenium reached such staggering levels, that it led to a complete cleanup of FIFA and its continental confederations."

 

[The East Terrace]

I'm not holding my breath. Basically keep FIFA the same and replace with a younger Blatter. It needs to be completely overhauled but it seems the only people who can do that er FIFA officials so, I don't see much changing.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

In the interim:

 

[Wizzz]

I see F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone has come out in support of Blatter. Perhaps they have a similar attitude to running a multinational business?

 

[CEngelbrecht]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/16/bernie-ecclestone-sepp-blatter

This pic says it all:

For crying out loud. I hope I never get rich.

 

[DarkSithLord]

I see F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone has come out in support of Blatter. Perhaps they have a similar attitude to running a multinational business?

And Putin too. The twat.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

Saw this comment in a Danish newspaper:

The situation [in FIFA and UEFA] seems similar to that of banana states, where the same dictators remain in power for decades and enrich themselves and their lieutenants. Therefore, not only is reform, but a revolution needed, especially if FIFA, but also UEFA is to change for the better.
[...]
Unfortunately, there is so much money and political interests in football, that the FIFA clean could easily fail. In such case, a new UEFA management should withdraw from the very world association, that cannot survive without Europe.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
- Juvenal.

 

[CEngelbrecht]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...that-Fifa-again-becomes-home-of-football.html

Platini revealed his “suspicions” that his downfall was being orchestrated as an act of revenge for him trying to oust the Fifa president.

Wouldn't be benath a scumbag to try taking the instrument of his inevitable downfall down with him. Hoover did it to Nixon, so why not Blatter?

Take the hit, Michel. It's the better outcome for football. C'est la guerre. (And besides, you did vote for the man in '11, and you did vote for Qatar '22, so what the hell?)

 

[CEngelbrecht]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article4582594.ece

"They can destroy me, but they can’t destroy my life’s work."
- Sepp Blatter

How can they? You've already done all that by yourself. You leave FIFA the most corrupt sports organization in the world. And considering the competition from the IOC, that's a fucking miracle! You as the boss was already scum, when at your first presidential election, you bought up votes in order to beat your oponent. Already then and ever since. And consequently, all you could do during your tenure was attract more and more scum to the organization, while more and more decent folk fled. Already now, that is your legacy. That's why only the skunks of the world support you now.

But who gives a fuck, right? It's just football, innit?

 

[Super_horns]

So who wil be the next President?

Most of term seem to have past connections with the troubles at FIFA so will anything change?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34655656

 

[Pagnell]

Was thinking that. Same shit, different day if you ask me. The whole shitty thing needs dismantling and putting back together under a completely different and transparent structure. But there is too much money involved and therefore very little will change, despite all the recent controversy.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

fifa will never again ever be taken seriously off anyone, its gone too far.

the only positive is future world cup bidding will be scrutinized by governments, the FBI, numerous Law enforcements etc,etc that there will be no chance at all of corruption regarding choice of venue in future.

but the behind scenes stuff I doubt can ever be stopped unless you ended it completely.

 

[Gashead]

Russia 2018 'arranged before the vote'.

Quelle surprise.